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#1 Dec 13 2006 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry to post this here, but I'm a bit of a "I have no idea" when it comes to PC technicalities, and I don't know anyone better IRL.

I'm hopefully going to be ordering a new PC at some point, almost entirely because my current laptop is not great for WoW (is it sad that I'm spending so much money just to play one game better?). Obviously I don't want to spend £500+ and then find out that what I've bought isn't an improvement.

This is a spec that I'm currently considering:

Processor (CPU)
INTEL® PENTIUM® D 820 (2 X 2.8GHz) 800MHz FSB/2 x1MB L2 Cache

Memory (RAM)
1024 MB CORSAIR DDR2 667MHz (2x512MB)

Motherboard
ASUS® P5LD2 SE/C: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA, x16 VGA, 3 PCI/3 PCI-E

Operating System
MICROSOFT WINDOWS® MCE 2005 (inc. Genuine CD & license)

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
80GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm)

1st CD/DVD Drive
18x +/- DVD WRITER (8x +/- Dual Lyr) (5x DVD-RAM) (40x CD-RW)

Graphics Card
256MB GEFORCE 7600GS PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT

Sound Card
INTEGRATED 6 CHANNEL (5.1) AUDIO

Modem
56KBPS INTERNAL V92 MODEM

Power Supply & cooling
STANDARD 350W PSU with CASE FAN

Is anyone more knowledgeable able to tell me how this would perform? Essentially I'm looking to be able to appreciate the amazingness of WoW graphics and be lag free in cities, raids, big BGs, etc.

Bearing in mind that this pretty much hits the top of my budget, is there anything I really should improve on, anything I could easily downgrade to free up money to improve on something else, etc etc?

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
#2 Dec 13 2006 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
that PSU is very week, and the CPU ram are also both on the low end side. it is ONLY worth at the most the $500 you are looking to spend, but it is not a good computer by todays standards...

that computer was good maybe 4 years ago.

it would run soso, but will still have large lag in and around cities near AHs, banks, and any time a large group of players are near you will have system side lag issues.
#3 Dec 13 2006 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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It's pretty good for a laptop, but not anything exciting either. The thing that I really don't like is the CPU is a Pentium D. Those are the worst CPUs when it comes to laptops. If you are going to get a new laptop, at least try and find one that has an Intel Core Duo or a Intel Core 2 Duo in it. Both are also dual core processors, but they are much more efficient in design. Your battery life and internal temp will be much better using one of those.

I think it's a great purchase and my desktop has similar specs and performs in WoW great with little to no lag except when the server is being troublesome. But why a laptop? If you don't need a computer to travel much, I would consider a desktop that would give you much better performance for your money. Especially with games, I wouldn't find a laptop keyboard near as comfortable as a desktop keyboard.
#4 Dec 13 2006 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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Fair enough - that's exactly why I need advice, I have no clue about that sort of thing. Many thanks for the input. Back to the drawing board.

Edit in response to OnimenoJason: It is a desktop I'm looking for, I meant I have a laptop at the moment - I certainly don't want another ;)

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 9:13am by Alestian
#5 Dec 13 2006 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
The computer isn't bad, although the parts are a bit outdated. Also I would recommend getting 2gb of RAM. It makes all the difference in the world.
#6 Dec 13 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
Singdall wrote:
it would run soso, but will still have large lag in and around cities near AHs, banks, and any time a large group of players are near you will have system side lag issues.

Don't listen to this. The two top issues that affect lag are RAM and your video card. With 1 Gig of RAM and the 7600, you should be fine. Any lag you encounter will be server-side, not due to your computer at all.
#7 Dec 13 2006 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Oops. My mistake. I thought you said you were buying a laptop.

Yeah I agree that the specs are meh in regards to what you could get for the same amount of money. Intel Core 2's are the one to get and I know I seen some of those for about $200. I also agree that you should get at least 2 gigs of RAM at least DDR2 800. Power supply is also weak for a desktop. You should at least get a 500W power supply and make sure it has at least 26 Amps to the 12V rail. I like most everything else, but if you want to play something other than WoW, I would look into getting a much better video card. Not that the 7600 is bad, but there are better. If you are only going to play WoW on it, then you'll be able to play fine with even the specs you had listed on Max settings. But if you are going to put that much into a new rig, I would at least think about other functions outside of WoW I would want to use it for. When I built mine last year, I built it in mind of playing HL2 and FEAR along side of WoW along with doing some digital editing.

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 10:00am by OnimenoJason
#8 Dec 13 2006 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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So the general consensus is that that computer isn't great by any means, but should be good enough for WoW. I don't have any plans for other games at the moment (and probably won't for a long time), nor do I use the computer for anything other than WoW and the run of the mill internet, Word, etc etc.

I can probably afford to bump up the CPU to Dual Core and the power supply to something stronger, but I'm not sure about RAM...I'll have to fiddle with the spec.

Much appreciated all, rate ups for the help.
#9 Dec 13 2006 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
With regard to the RAM... the BC requirements state 512Mb minimum and 1Gb preferred... so you'll be ok.. not great, but it should perform fine and the graphics card should handle the game well. I would look into a better processor if I were you but if that's the limit of what you can afford, then to answer your question, yes... this set up should run the game just fine.

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 2:48pm by SDWarrior

Edited, Dec 13th 2006 4:18pm by SDWarrior
#10 Dec 13 2006 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't listen to this. The two top issues that affect lag are RAM and your video card. With 1 Gig of RAM and the 7600, you should be fine. Any lag you encounter will be server-side, not due to your computer at all.


All too true, tested with my computer, You will have lag either way, due to no fault of your own.

The specs you have shown will run wow, not amazingly, but it will.
#11 Dec 13 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
Singdall wrote:
it would run soso, but will still have large lag in and around cities near AHs, banks, and any time a large group of players are near you will have system side lag issues.

Don't listen to this. The two top issues that affect lag are RAM and your video card. With 1 Gig of RAM and the 7600, you should be fine. Any lag you encounter will be server-side, not due to your computer at all.


LoL your funny, my old game box is almost the exact specs he listed above. had the 2.4 vs the 2.8cpu with 1G ram, and that vid card and i would get some major lag around the AH and banks, specifically in Org.

most other places i had no system side lag, i would from time to time have issues near water though until i fixed some settings in the display and i was NOT able to run with full graphics setting.
#12 Dec 14 2006 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
Singdall wrote:
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
Singdall wrote:
it would run soso, but will still have large lag in and around cities near AHs, banks, and any time a large group of players are near you will have system side lag issues.

Don't listen to this. The two top issues that affect lag are RAM and your video card. With 1 Gig of RAM and the 7600, you should be fine. Any lag you encounter will be server-side, not due to your computer at all.


LoL your funny, my old game box is almost the exact specs he listed above. had the 2.4 vs the 2.8cpu with 1G ram, and that vid card and i would get some major lag around the AH and banks, specifically in Org.

most other places i had no system side lag, i would from time to time have issues near water though until i fixed some settings in the display and i was NOT able to run with full graphics setting.

My specs:
Athlon 3800+ CPU (2.4Ghz)
1 Gig Ram
Nvidea 7600 GS

I have no visible lag. I run at 56-60 FPS most of the time, with all video settings wide open. Perhaps you have no idea on how to optimize your machine. Perhaps you had other problems, like background applications (and no knowledge on how to control them). Perhaps... but enough perhapses. You're so wrong, Singdall, that you couldn't pour **** out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
#13 Dec 14 2006 at 1:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm using about the same setup

AMD 3500+ 2.2ghz
1gig ram
Nvidia 7600 GT OC

Run the game on max settings, 1280x1024 (I think this was the setting I used) resolution and in Stormwind/Ironforge my FPS would never drop below 40.
#14 Dec 14 2006 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I would strongly recommend that you improve your RAM, since it is cheap, (in terms of % of improvment you gaint per $) and it improves WoW gameplay dramatically since WoW is a RAM based game in contrast to "Guild Wars" which is mainly dependent on your CPU.

Secondly you should get atleast a 7 series GFX-Card of nVIDIA, preferably 512MB. (But this might imbalance your budget)

Finally you should get a better CPU, but this is up to you, since I'm not that concerned that that CPU will give you major issues when playing wow. (my friend has the same CPU)
#15 Dec 14 2006 at 5:35 AM Rating: Default
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:

My specs:
Athlon 3800+ CPU (2.4Ghz)
1 Gig Ram
Nvidea 7600 GS

I have no visible lag. I run at 56-60 FPS most of the time, with all video settings wide open. Perhaps you have no idea on how to optimize your machine. Perhaps you had other problems, like background applications (and no knowledge on how to control them). Perhaps... but enough perhapses. You're so wrong, Singdall, that you couldn't pour **** out of a boot with instructions on the heel.


you are so funny. there are very few people who post in this forum that know more about computers then i do.


LoL you are the crock, oh and guess what the CPU you listed is FAR FAR FAR better then the CPU the OP has or my old game rig has.
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