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lol wow that got long. To start your server will fill up in time, dont worry about that. No matter how full it is though sometimes the place you need to go will be crowded, sometimes sparse. Alot of it depends on the timezone of the server and what time you play.
As for purples, don't expect to see them droip often, and even then the first epics (purple) don't drop of mobs under level 40 i believe, and in those cases you are "usually" better off selling it and using the money.
You will see blues drop occasionally. The drop rate is per mob and has no basis on what you have fought prior. Prime example are people getting X item on the first kill, versus people who farmed a mob for hours/hundreds of kills and still never got the item.
yep you just got lucky.
Nobody should be camping hogger, there's no reason it's a quest mob with like a 5 minute respawn and normal mob drops. Either people don't undertsand this or are camping him on purpose to monopolize him and be jerks.
As for purples, don't expect to see them droip often, and even then the first epics (purple) don't drop of mobs under level 40 i believe, and in those cases you are "usually" better off selling it and using the money.
You will see blues drop occasionally. The drop rate is per mob and has no basis on what you have fought prior. Prime example are people getting X item on the first kill, versus people who farmed a mob for hours/hundreds of kills and still never got the item.
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Was it that on my original character I was just really lucky, and my new one I am really unlucky, or do you think it had to do with so many other people killing them that it made the probability of getting a green higher, because they were being killed at such a high rate.
yep you just got lucky.
Nobody should be camping hogger, there's no reason it's a quest mob with like a 5 minute respawn and normal mob drops. Either people don't undertsand this or are camping him on purpose to monopolize him and be jerks.
Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with where I am at. Just feels wierd running from the excavation site in Loch Modan, all the way to Ironforge and not seing one person, and then getting into Ironforge and seeing 20 or so level 60's just hanging out. it is fun watching them duel though.
Nobody should be camping hogger, there's no reason it's a quest mob with like a 5 minute respawn and normal mob drops. Either people don't undertsand this or are camping him on purpose to monopolize him and be jerks.
That's the thing, on the first server that I was on, they were all camping him for the quest. I read it over general chat several times that the server had only been active for 2 weeks, so a lot of the players on the server were just starting out, and they all needed to kill him for the quest. Where as the new server I am on there wasn't anyone there doing the quest, so no one was there to kill him. Then I go to the player search and leave the search area blank and do a search, and 49 people show up, so I am guessing that means there are 49 people are in my server now, I think it was about 15 people were around my level, the rest were 60's. I think I did the search mid-afternoon EST(around 4 I think) on saturday.
TseTsuo the Wise wrote:
Nobody should be camping hogger, there's no reason it's a quest mob with like a 5 minute respawn and normal mob drops. Either people don't undertsand this or are camping him on purpose to monopolize him and be jerks.
That's the thing, on the first server that I was on, they were all camping him for the quest. I read it over general chat several times that the server had only been active for 2 weeks, so a lot of the players on the server were just starting out, and they all needed to kill him for the quest. Where as the new server I am on there wasn't anyone there doing the quest, so no one was there to kill him. Then I go to the player search and leave the search area blank and do a search, and 49 people show up, so I am guessing that means there are 49 people are in my server now, I think it was about 15 people were around my level, the rest were 60's. I think I did the search mid-afternoon EST(around 4 I think) on saturday.
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Just feels wierd running from the excavation site in Loch Modan, all the way to Ironforge and not seing one person, and then getting into Ironforge and seeing 20 or so level 60's just hanging out. it is fun watching them duel though.
ehhh, you know about flight points right?
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Then I go to the player search and leave the search area blank and do a search, and 49 people show up, so I am guessing that means there are 49 people are in my server now,
I think a blank search only looks in the zone you are in, not sureo n that. I can't imagine there only being 50 people on at once, even on a new server.
TseTsuo the Wiseehhh wrote:
, you know about flight points right?
Yeah but I was running back and forth between them to kill some wolves for thier meat to leavel up my cooking. Since those are gray now, I take the gryphon.
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I think a blank search only looks in the zone you are in, not sureo n that. I can't imagine there only being 50 people on at once, even on a new server.
Hmm maybe I will check that when I get home tonight. I'm not really sure, but I'm sticking with the server I am in, I figure I will get some stuff done, play around a bit with somethings, and eventually people will catch up and probably pass me, since RL time constraints only allows me for decent time for play on the weekends.
Edited, Dec 11th 2006 2:22pm by SynnTastic
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Sorry this post turned into such a large wall of text, but I really do enjoy playing this game, and look to enjoy spending many hours of my life playing it, and am just looking for some answers. Plus I'm bored at work and need something to occupy my time, until I go home and play some more.
Your post has punctuation, capitalization and paragraphs, its light-years ahead of most “walls of text†I’ve seen. *smiles*
If I were you I’d stick it out if you enjoy playing on a PvP server. If past experience means anything, no WoW server stays empty for long. If you would like some companionship, you might take some time out to try to find an active, like minded guild to join. A bit of guild chat can liven up an otherwise lonely stretch of gaming.
As for drops, I don’t believe the population of the server makes any difference. The only difference I can think of is on the selection of items in the auction house. I mainly play alliance, but I have horde characters on a different server and the lower horde population often makes it difficult to find the items I’m looking for unless I plan ahead.
A few things I've noticed over the past few months since I started playing....
Alliance lowbie areas seem a lot more crowded than the equivalent Horde areas.
Most lowbie (1-30) areas are more crowded on weekends and holidays to the point of making some Alliance quests almost undoable with the competition for respawns.
I haven't played on a PVP but I think those servers tend to have lower populations than the Normal servers?
I find that if I want to find help (or just want to do a quest in a cleared out area) that I should try to do it during a busy server time like a weekend - and - if I want to solo a quest and not have competition then I try to do it during off hours such as really late (server time) at night.
Hogger - He respawns super-fast though usually not at the same place where he last spawned. I managed to kill him three times with my Night Elf warrior while trying to kill gnolls for the quest drops though the second two times were because he attacked me while I was fighting another gnoll.
As far as which server - I'd just say to stay with both and play on one while waiting to accumulate rest bonus on the other one. It's still too early for you to really decide whether you want to be on a PVP server or not since you're not likely to have ventured out into many contested areas yet.
Alliance lowbie areas seem a lot more crowded than the equivalent Horde areas.
Most lowbie (1-30) areas are more crowded on weekends and holidays to the point of making some Alliance quests almost undoable with the competition for respawns.
I haven't played on a PVP but I think those servers tend to have lower populations than the Normal servers?
I find that if I want to find help (or just want to do a quest in a cleared out area) that I should try to do it during a busy server time like a weekend - and - if I want to solo a quest and not have competition then I try to do it during off hours such as really late (server time) at night.
Hogger - He respawns super-fast though usually not at the same place where he last spawned. I managed to kill him three times with my Night Elf warrior while trying to kill gnolls for the quest drops though the second two times were because he attacked me while I was fighting another gnoll.
As far as which server - I'd just say to stay with both and play on one while waiting to accumulate rest bonus on the other one. It's still too early for you to really decide whether you want to be on a PVP server or not since you're not likely to have ventured out into many contested areas yet.
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In other words, say the drop has a .1% rate of drop, is it that if you kill 1000 of that monster you will get 1, or is it that you kill one monster there is a .1% chance that monster has that drop.
each mob has a .1% drop. If you kill one, it's .1% if you kill another, it's still .1%. If you kill enough, you are bound to hit that one in a thousand chance, but it will always be 1/1000.
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each mob has a .1% drop. If you kill one, it's .1% if you kill another, it's still .1%. If you kill enough, you are bound to hit that one in a thousand chance, but it will always be 1/1000.
Not true. There is a counter for each mob. Each kill ticks off one on the counter. They are set for a drop of item {x} every so may ticks, and a drop of [y] every so many.
It's not as random as you may think.
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each mob has a .1% drop. If you kill one, it's .1% if you kill another, it's still .1%. If you kill enough, you are bound to hit that one in a thousand chance, but it will always be 1/1000.
Not true. There is a counter for each mob. Each kill ticks off one on the counter. They are set for a drop of item {x} every so may ticks, and a drop of [y] every so many.
It's not as random as you may think.
It can't be true, because sometimes an item drops twice in a row.
Whenever you kill a mob, it has X% chance of dropping items, no matter how many mobs you killed before, how many mobs were killed by other players, how long it respawned, how many mobs currently respawned, what your level is, what day of the week it is or what emote you used prior to killing it. So basically, if you're farming a rare drop, it has the same chance to drop in the next 5 minutes, whether you just started or are already farming there for 6 hours straight without luck.
SynnTastic> The server that felt empty to you is probably an endgame server. Most people there already hit 60, possibly a long time ago, and are just enjoying the lvl 60 instances, the raid instances and the bg's. Going with a new server sounds like a better choice to me, and even though Hogger got farmed to death, don't let that withstand you. That'll get less problematic fast as people get a little higher. Keep in mind that leveling 1-10 and 10-20 are stuff you do in a single evening, so the availability of the mobs keep in mind everyone streams through pretty quickly.
Also, keep in mind that most of the better stuff is in an instance. In an instance, no matter how many people are running that instance, your group gets your own copy, with your own mobs and your own drops, unaffected by anyone outside the party.
Really, as long as you don't suffer from queues, I'd say, the more the merrier. It's an MMO after all. And more people will make it a lot easier for you to find a party for a specific instance.
Whenever you kill a mob, it has X% chance of dropping items, no matter how many mobs you killed before, how many mobs were killed by other players, how long it respawned, how many mobs currently respawned, what your level is, what day of the week it is or what emote you used prior to killing it. So basically, if you're farming a rare drop, it has the same chance to drop in the next 5 minutes, whether you just started or are already farming there for 6 hours straight without luck.
SynnTastic> The server that felt empty to you is probably an endgame server. Most people there already hit 60, possibly a long time ago, and are just enjoying the lvl 60 instances, the raid instances and the bg's. Going with a new server sounds like a better choice to me, and even though Hogger got farmed to death, don't let that withstand you. That'll get less problematic fast as people get a little higher. Keep in mind that leveling 1-10 and 10-20 are stuff you do in a single evening, so the availability of the mobs keep in mind everyone streams through pretty quickly.
Also, keep in mind that most of the better stuff is in an instance. In an instance, no matter how many people are running that instance, your group gets your own copy, with your own mobs and your own drops, unaffected by anyone outside the party.
Really, as long as you don't suffer from queues, I'd say, the more the merrier. It's an MMO after all. And more people will make it a lot easier for you to find a party for a specific instance.
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Not true. There is a counter for each mob. Each kill ticks off one on the counter. They are set for a drop of item {x} every so may ticks, and a drop of [y] every so many.
you're going to have to provide a citation for a comment like that, and it's going to have to be a really good one.
Edited, Dec 12th 2006 7:38am by Feninie
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The server that felt empty to you is probably an endgame server. Most people there already hit 60, possibly a long time ago, and are just enjoying the lvl 60 instances,
Dont think so, endgame servers tend to have many alts walking around.
When i started on my first server it wasn't crowded either yet it is now a full high-end pvp/raid server. Hardly any low lvl wandering around hasn't got a main somewhere. Thing is keep to your server(s) the population will grow eventually.
And you will profit out of this, your profs will be needed and thus payed for.
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bgredsox wrote:
Not true. There is a counter for each mob. Each kill ticks off one on the counter. They are set for a drop of item {x} every so may ticks, and a drop of [y] every so many.
Not true. There is a counter for each mob. Each kill ticks off one on the counter. They are set for a drop of item {x} every so may ticks, and a drop of [y] every so many.
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you're going to have to provide a citation for a comment like that, and it's going to have to be a really good one.
indeed, i though its like a roll of the dice.
Edited, Dec 12th 2006 8:01am by ChlKilt
I'll answer the question about 49-it is the highest number of characters any search will show. You have to be more specific if you want to see a better look at how many people are on.
IE: Empty search box=49 people on; on a busy server on Saturday afternoon, search Orgimmar=49 people there. Now go mage orgrimmar=20, warrior orgrimmar=25, shaman orgrimmar=15, warlock orgrimmar=18, rogue orgimmar=30, druid orgimmar=5, priest orgrimmar=2(examples of course, but it will show a better number of how many people-have to make searching more specific).
Another example is in the search box just put 60-on a busy server you probably have 49 listed. Then put 60 mage and see how many you get, etc.
I hope that I explained it well enough to be understood. =) Also, keep in mind this does not take into account the other faction, who, on higher levels, will also be competing for those same quest mobs.
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I rather like the empty server at times-it is nice to run through Ironforge and not have to sift through masses of hugely epicced out toons on their epic mounts hogging the mailbox. My main server has gotten to be somewhat ghost-townie as well, but the new server is really fun for a change(though there seems to be more beggars there >.< )
Edited, Dec 12th 2006 9:20am by Geocacher
IE: Empty search box=49 people on; on a busy server on Saturday afternoon, search Orgimmar=49 people there. Now go mage orgrimmar=20, warrior orgrimmar=25, shaman orgrimmar=15, warlock orgrimmar=18, rogue orgimmar=30, druid orgimmar=5, priest orgrimmar=2(examples of course, but it will show a better number of how many people-have to make searching more specific).
Another example is in the search box just put 60-on a busy server you probably have 49 listed. Then put 60 mage and see how many you get, etc.
I hope that I explained it well enough to be understood. =) Also, keep in mind this does not take into account the other faction, who, on higher levels, will also be competing for those same quest mobs.
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I rather like the empty server at times-it is nice to run through Ironforge and not have to sift through masses of hugely epicced out toons on their epic mounts hogging the mailbox. My main server has gotten to be somewhat ghost-townie as well, but the new server is really fun for a change(though there seems to be more beggars there >.< )
Edited, Dec 12th 2006 9:20am by Geocacher
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