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#1 Dec 10 2006 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?
#2 Dec 10 2006 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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cowwithbeans wrote:
I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?


I noticed that too. I have three theories:

(1) It's a bug that will be fixed

(2) It's only visible when someone on your team can see the flag carrier (I noticed it happened when we were attacking their flag, not sure if this theory carries and water, though)

(3) Your timer theory.

All I know for sure is that it's sometimes, not always.
#3 Dec 10 2006 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Jordster wrote:
cowwithbeans wrote:
I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?


I noticed that too. I have three theories:

(1) It's a bug that will be fixed

(2) It's only visible when someone on your team can see the flag carrier (I noticed it happened when we were attacking their flag, not sure if this theory carries and water, though)

(3) Your timer theory.

All I know for sure is that it's sometimes, not always.


Noticed this last night, general consensus between my group was that it was on a timer, though I can't comment on how long it takes.
I doubt it's a glitch/bug, but honestly it never really affected us anyways, 10-12 minute WSG games and 12 minute 5caps on AB all night.
#4 Dec 10 2006 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
Its on timer, I'm 98% sure I saw it on patch notes somewhere. Its to prevent the marathon matches where enemy FC just hides in some bushes or some crap.
#5 Dec 10 2006 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Being on timer, well, that goes against the grain of capture the flag. I realize that (if that's the case) the timer is to prevent extremely long games, but other games have simply put a timer on the GAME itself, and not the flag carrier. That, in itself, is an exploitation. All the team has to do (if stalemated) is turtle until the timer kicks in. I realize this isn't a beneficial strategy to a lot of teams, but this WILL be exploited.

Personally, I hope it's a bug, but shorter wsg games are a godsend....
#6 Dec 10 2006 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
I agree, I like it.

And it's not a means to shorter game, but new stratergies will have to be used. Once you are seen with the flag, might be time to add to the overall D of the flag carrier... but so far, yes matches I have noticed are shoter, which I like.

#7 Dec 10 2006 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
The timer only comes up after a certain amount of time with a single person carrying the flag. I like it, as otherwise the Horde can hide in almost impossible to see places - like that stupid saw.
#8 Dec 10 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Magilicotty wrote:
I agree, I like it.

And it's not a means to shorter game, but new stratergies will have to be used. Once you are seen with the flag, might be time to add to the overall D of the flag carrier... but so far, yes matches I have noticed are shoter, which I like.




I can't see any other reason than to end stalemates and shorten the length of games.
#9 Dec 10 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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BismarcksFinest wrote:
Jordster wrote:
cowwithbeans wrote:
I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?


I noticed that too. I have three theories:

(1) It's a bug that will be fixed

(2) It's only visible when someone on your team can see the flag carrier (I noticed it happened when we were attacking their flag, not sure if this theory carries and water, though)

(3) Your timer theory.

All I know for sure is that it's sometimes, not always.


Noticed this last night, general consensus between my group was that it was on a timer, though I can't comment on how long it takes.
I doubt it's a glitch/bug, but honestly it never really affected us anyways, 10-12 minute WSG games and 12 minute 5caps on AB all night.


LOL 12 mins is a slow 5-cap :P
#10 Dec 10 2006 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think it's a timer, I believe it's if someone can see the flag carrier currently.
#11 Dec 10 2006 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure about the theory that someone has to see the flag carrier first. The last game I was in, the carrier was hidden behind the big tree, south east (horde side) up on the rocks. I'm pretty sure no one knew where he was until he appeared on the map.
#12 Dec 10 2006 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
there goes my strategy . . .

9 on offense
1 on defense (hidden in the bushes)
#13 Dec 10 2006 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Jordster wrote:
BismarcksFinest wrote:
Jordster wrote:
cowwithbeans wrote:
I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?


I noticed that too. I have three theories:

(1) It's a bug that will be fixed

(2) It's only visible when someone on your team can see the flag carrier (I noticed it happened when we were attacking their flag, not sure if this theory carries and water, though)

(3) Your timer theory.

All I know for sure is that it's sometimes, not always.


Noticed this last night, general consensus between my group was that it was on a timer, though I can't comment on how long it takes.
I doubt it's a glitch/bug, but honestly it never really affected us anyways, 10-12 minute WSG games and 12 minute 5caps on AB all night.


LOL 12 mins is a slow 5-cap :P


We only had 9 people in our group, and I was level 43, Bis was 45, and our priest was 45 :P

So they weren't immediate 5caps

Not everyone lives up to your PvP standards Jord :P
#14 Dec 10 2006 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't get it really.

Hiding with the flag is probably the worst strategy for several reasons. It's easy enough to find people, and using special pet target and spell target commands makes it even easier.

I do like seeing where people try to hide though. The doorway and under the mill are the funniest areas.
#15 Dec 10 2006 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Mageoken wrote:
Jordster wrote:
BismarcksFinest wrote:
Jordster wrote:
cowwithbeans wrote:
I don't know if this has been said, but I sure couldn't find anything on it in the patch notes.

Maybe it's a bug, but it seems to me that if the enemy has your flag for a certain amount of time, it becomes visible on the map. So far this had happened about 5 times as far as I can tell.

Is this just a bug or have Blizzard implemented it as a way to curb 45 minute matches? Any guesses?


I noticed that too. I have three theories:

(1) It's a bug that will be fixed

(2) It's only visible when someone on your team can see the flag carrier (I noticed it happened when we were attacking their flag, not sure if this theory carries and water, though)

(3) Your timer theory.

All I know for sure is that it's sometimes, not always.


Noticed this last night, general consensus between my group was that it was on a timer, though I can't comment on how long it takes.
I doubt it's a glitch/bug, but honestly it never really affected us anyways, 10-12 minute WSG games and 12 minute 5caps on AB all night.


LOL 12 mins is a slow 5-cap :P


We only had 9 people in our group, and I was level 43, Bis was 45, and our priest was 45 :P

So they weren't immediate 5caps

Not everyone lives up to your PvP standards Jord :P


Yea, no epic mounts or classes who could ghost wolf/travel form to quick caps, and weren't a full 15man AB. And yea, close to half of us weren't even close to the level cap.

We still kicked the **** out of everyone, I held flag at their graveyard and held it for over 20 minutes as a level 45 in leather, and had a 45 priest kill 2 level 49 warriors in the arena by running around the pillars DoTing them to death =)
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