2.0.1 PvP DiscussionFollow

How are all you PvP'ers out there enjoying the new patch?

I am LOVING it.

My first impressions-

Long games earn meaningful honor from kills - so you can no longer go 1hr in WSG, lose 3-0 and come out empty handed

Twinking is a new sport - no more exp in BGs, better access to rewards, more reward from killing other players...

It's nice to see people PvP'ing again ... I received the message last night "You are now able to enter Warsong Gulch 108" on my Priest

Far better rewards are now within the grasp of players like me who play a fair deal but never stood a chance of hitting top ranks due to RL and lack of desire of selling my life to the WoWDevil... It's nice to have a goal in mind like back before I hit exalted.

Mage and Warlocks are WAY overpowered now! YAY I guess ...

Overall I think the changes are awesome. It's nice that they are breathing some fresh life into WoW for those of us who don't really like repetition of scripted encounters. This is the best patch since 1.6 IMO. (or was it 1.5 when they brought out AB?)

Thoughts? Opinions?

Besides the fact that Blizzard gave us the wrong patch, I guess I'm happy with it.

Not liking the twinks though. Wish they'd go away. But that's just me.

I would love everything if I had my old mods. I am really unaccustomed to the basic UI and I find myself dying without even realizing it.

I was in 7 bg's last night and all I'm showing is how many kills I have, the number below that looks like this ~.... and up above is showing 0 honor. So I'm a little confused with this new system they've brought into the picture.

I love it as well. I find myself getting re-hooked to WoW, and I wasn't expecting that to happen before the xpac. :)



Yes and no... AV is still the king of honor from what I can see. Not only do you get more kills but you also get more honor from it period... 400 honor from a 25min win is hard to beat unless you're in a premade WSG/AB rolling pugs in less then 10 mins.

I'm also a bit surprised at how few pvp rewards actually need WSG tokens! None of the weapons and only the pants from the pvp set! This does make me happy that I only have to earn 30 WSG token and I can then never have to do it again :)



Hehe, yeah, I got AB 141 here, that was great :).



Thank god for a pvp system that actually makes sense! I only wish it had always been like that, I would have been decked in pvp purple a long time ago. :\



I'm going to need to go ahead and try some of the new talents... I've played it safe and went with a 'normal' build, and I can't say I find myself all that more dangerous.

That being said, I'd love to know who figured, "Hey, you know what warlocks are missing? A ranged AE stun effect!!!"




Oh yeah, and for people complaining about UI, especially those looking for 'UI that allows me to move my buttons' - geez... learn to keybind already.



Edited, Dec 6th 2006 9:13pm by Tyrandor

I hate it, honestly they screwed up the whole thing. For example I went to AV yesterday and finally got Stormpike friendly and thinking that I can finally purchase the tabard for 1g, once I get to NPC I need 60xAlterlact Valley medals of honor which techinicly equals to 20 straight winning games of AV... So ranks don't mean anything now and you techincly have to spend honor + medals which makes the job really frastuating. I RAELLY REALLY hate it.

I just really miss MobInfo. No longer can I see just how much HP the other guy has. I've mis-judged a couple fights already thanks to this. Like the Warlock that must've had eleventy billion HP.

I also miss my custom unit frames. It just looked much neater to me than the old GUI.

i personally have found my new love. The hunter marks tree. Not sure if i'm playing different or what it is, but ikeep ripping through bgs. Highest kb's and damage. It's a good day to be a hunter. I tried every tree to 41, but i've never been a bm guy, and i can't do survival with out scatter so i'm back to marks and loving it. Biggest thing that amazes me is silencing shot. Time this baby right and you can cripple a group attacking.


I basically have the same reasons as jord

im liking the patch. first, some humor:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50958399&sid=1&pageNo=1

fun things to say in tree form. my personal fav? HAY GUISE LETS GO RAID ISENGARD LOLZ!

as for me, im liking things a lot. 51 points into balance on my druid, and despite my "mediocre" (read: barely acceptable) gear, im having a lot of fun. treants, despite their drawbacks, are actually quite effective. aoe is a problem at times, but, like chiel and his silencing shot, a well timed/place FoN cast causes ample chaos amongst the enemy ranks.

warrior is doing well too. 41/7/3 with second wind and imp MS and blood frenzy, and its working quite nicely. i lost damage overall due to the loss of enrage, but ive gained some nice utility, and getting a 10% heal on every stun and root is very very nice. knowing i can grind AV and get a rank 14 weapon is equally hot.

I'm also one of the people loving the new PvP stuff. Besides being easier to get the high ranking stuff now, i'm liking that hunters have actually become, well more deadly now. I'm using a heavy MM build (for raiding mainly, but it is working great for PvP too imo) I'm criting like MAD, and my arcane shots are critting for about 1100ish, just slightly below my old (average) aimed shot crit.. My DPS has gone up by like 40 or something with just self-buffs, which equates to more damage per shot since my speed has remained the same...

I'm not sure how effective Silencing shot is yet, although i've used it vs serveral casters so far and they haven't been able to get a spell off. One hunter in my guild said he used it and it was worthless (his exact words pretty much) so i'm going to have to do some testing in duels later where things aren't as choatic as in PvP to see exactly how useful it is.

One thing I am disliking though is Warlocks. They've always been a pain, but now they are even more of one... I mean that new felguard hurts, especially when combined with their dots. And did someone mention a freaking stun too? I thought I had just been hit with a fear one time, even though I wasn't moving (which often happens, I get feared in place) but now I wonder if he didn't hit me with that stun or something. Plus their curses and such are still as bad as ever for killing someone while they can't do **** pretty much. Well, the expansion is supposed to help that.

On that note though, I am noticing one thing, in general it seems like people are dieing a lot quicker now. I'm used to seeing mages drop and the like drop quick, but i'm seeing like 1 or 2 peole take out someone in plate quickly too. Even though i'm glad for this patch, I have to wonder about it some as it seems like blizzard has basically made the PvP system as they want it for TBC, but not given us the higher stam so people DON'T get 2-shotted or fear kited to death... Yet, people are still getting that and dieing even QUICKER now because of how powerfull some of the new talents/spells/abilities (or more so ranks and spells/abilities gained through talents) are... which isn't the way blizzard wanted it iirc.

I hate to admit it but the mages and locks are having it easy in BGs right now. It seems I'm getting 2 shotted more often now, even from mages/locks without uber gear.

I see. That explains why pounce doesn't work the way the patch description said it would. You still need to be directly behind the target.

There were a few other things that hadn't changed as I had expected, but I can't remember what they were now. I'm relieved to find there's a reason behind it besides Blizzard maybe thinking no one would notice.