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Something about the new patch and alt charactersFollow

#1 Dec 05 2006 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a lvl 60 mage, and I've been contemplating creating an alt character. I had finally decided on a hunter, but after reading some of the posts on how the patch has made this class pretty much useless, I'm rethinking it. Any ideas or suggestions regarding this? Is it really that bad? And what about the other classes? how have they been affected?
#2 Dec 05 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
No class has been made useless. Listening to people who say that requires wearing a tin-foil hat. No class has been nerfed, just changed so that they need to use different tactics than they did pre-patch. Only the people who aren't able to adapt to changes are complaining. This happens every patch where there are changes to classes. Ignore them, since they are posting on the wrong forum anyhow - complaints belong on the o-boards.
#3 Dec 06 2006 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
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well thats an encouraging reply, and puts the hunter back in the running.
#4 Dec 06 2006 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Infact hunters are getting a significant DPS boost. People who fail to see that have either a: Never raided on their hunter, and if they have they belong to the class Huntards(people with little or no understanding of hunters, attending raids to pick up loot, and doing same or less dmg as the main tank) B: never lvled a hunter to 60.

To do good dps with hunters today(yes its possible) requires enormous focus and potting(especially mana pots in long fights) taking advantage of slow weapons so that you use aimed shot as a free shot, and woving this into either a 9 or a 10 second cycle. To add to that, hunters doesnt scale very well with gear, and the itemisation is ******* meaning we take agility items, and agility items alone. Theres also the fact that Auto shot speed is affected by your weapon speed, so in order to maintain an effiecient aimed cycle, you must use slow weapons. The new aimed shot makes all weapon speeds look appealing.

Arcane shot today scales only with +dmg gear(which it only gains 46% from, due to it beeing an instant), and for the average joe hunter you will never see arcane shots above 500dmg. Now it scales with gear, and reports from the test servers say it crits for 1800 with good gear. Thats an instant ability, that with talents can be shot every 5 seconds. Ill trade that for the old aimed shot any day(if you need to ask, the new aim shot resets the autoshot timer when cast)

Come patch day however: Agility is now "nerfed" so that 1 agi=1rap. All hunter based items in the current game are changed to reflect this, by removing some agility and adding ranged attack power(the tier sets, prestors, barb of the sandreaver etc). DOnt forget that our agi to crit rate is changed from 51-32, so you wont loose much by the removed agi in your tier items(if youre wearing them)
In addition, by speccing Marksmanship you now open up the ability to get attack power from intellect, opening up a whole new erray of itemisation options.

Then there is the pet. Unless you specc 31 points in BM, your pet cant hold aggro very well, doesnt dish out good dmg(it dishes out more when youre 20-31 specc, but not anything to wet yourself over) and dies far to easy. Come patch day the pet now gets a base boost, meaning it hits harder, tanks better and has higher survivability. In addition to this, it scales with your gear. Yogi the bear suddenly got angry i say.

Now read this, and keep in mind that at lvl 62 we get steady shot, a 1.5 sec mini aimed shot, can you honestly say that hunters have been nerfed, rather than buffed?

Gratz to BLizzard. I think finally hunters will be a necesety to raids, other than the tedious tranq fights.
#5 Dec 06 2006 at 9:57 AM Rating: Default
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At low levels I'd say hunters are nerfed.

At the end it all may even out but as a lvl 21 hunter that's put a lot( relatively speaking) into agility gear, I feel like I've been nerfed.
#6 Dec 06 2006 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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People are just worked up because they were changed significantly.

Honestly though, they are no better or worse off.

You will love the change of pace from a mage to hunter. Its a completely different type of playing, other than the fact that your ranged dps.

Please keep in mind, I have a very hard time adjusting to a mage from a hunter, thus my little twink never made it even to the level 19 bracket.

Hunters are still an awesomely fun character to play.

Edited, Dec 6th 2006 2:24pm by lauisifer
#7 Dec 06 2006 at 12:48 PM Rating: Default
as a hunter, i can say any level below 40 where your in leather, your only strategy is to hope your pet deals enough damage and keep alive.

Id say get to lv40 and spec out in mail gear, and you will feel alot less squidgey....


i like to call cloth wearers squidgeys and leather wearers clingfilm lovers :D
#8 Dec 07 2006 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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There seems to be a very mixed reaction regarding hunters, but then again..that's the case with everything.
#9 Dec 07 2006 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Did you actually READ that thread about hunters 'being useless'???

If you read through it all you will see that a lot of people report positive changes to the class.
#10 Dec 07 2006 at 6:39 PM Rating: Default
ohmikeghod the Venerable wrote:
No class has been made useless. Listening to people who say that requires wearing a tin-foil hat. No class has been nerfed, just changed so that they need to use different tactics than they did pre-patch. Only the people who aren't able to adapt to changes are complaining. This happens every patch where there are changes to classes. Ignore them, since they are posting on the wrong forum anyhow - complaints belong on the o-boards.


semi true. the warrior has been hit with 2 very large nerfs. 1 for generating rage, the other for generating hate. both are MAJOR nerfs. granted nothing that can not be overcome, but still a nerf is a nerf so please do not surgar cote that fact.

i have no clue as to what happened to the hunter class, but most hunters i have met in game are worthless anyways for groups or instances.
#11 Dec 07 2006 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
Singdall wrote:
semi true. the warrior has been hit with 2 very large nerfs. 1 for generating rage, the other for generating hate. both are MAJOR nerfs. granted nothing that can not be overcome, but still a nerf is a nerf so please do not surgar cote that fact.

i have no clue as to what happened to the hunter class, but most hunters i have met in game are worthless anyways for groups or instances.

So, what part of "complaints belong on the o-boards." did you fail to understand?
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