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Ok, I was playing today and someone told me they heard that in the xpansion JUST for entering a battleground and killing other players you will earn experience points... for now treat this as just a rumor (unless its been confirmed) but that is an ingenious way of purging the twinks of the world... interesting to see if it happens.
Not going to happen.
And since the quests to turn in BG tokens are being taken out those who were using them to level will no longer be able too.
New enchants that drop in BC will have level restrictions. That is the ONLY change that will affect twinks. Current enchants will remain unaffected.
Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players and they have no intention on completely destroying it. Although the changes to enchants will certainly contain the phenomenon to current power levels.
Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players and they have no intention on completely destroying it. Although the changes to enchants will certainly contain the phenomenon to current power levels.
#6Allegory,
Posted: Dec 02 2006 at 10:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Speed hacking is my hobby, but Blizzard seems to have a problem with that.
Twinking is a "creative use of game mechanics". They have let it slide because there is no easy way to fix it. Adding level enchants retroactively is near impossible... They are, however, "fixing" it for BC but by preventing it from getting worse (i.e. people using even BETTER enchants). They are also (supposedly and eventually) adding gear matching to all brackets, which will serve to mitigate twinking using current enchants.
Speed hacking is cheating because it involves the use of a 3rd party program to intentionally violate game mechanics.
I can't believe people still complain about twinks... yes they're annoying when leveling an alt or playing the game for the first time, but there's no easy way for Blizzard to fix it... and it only is "game breaking" in brackets you level out of in 2-3 days anyway.
Speed hacking is cheating because it involves the use of a 3rd party program to intentionally violate game mechanics.
I can't believe people still complain about twinks... yes they're annoying when leveling an alt or playing the game for the first time, but there's no easy way for Blizzard to fix it... and it only is "game breaking" in brackets you level out of in 2-3 days anyway.
You, like me and other people have misread and/or misunderstood Bllizzard's posts, the gear matching is only for Arenas and still has some balancing issues to work out.
Arenas are not gear matched; they use a rating system based on wins/losses. You could technically have terrible gear and still have a high rating if you manage to win consistently (and thus play a higher quantity of well-geared individuals).
It is possible that that's the only form of "matching" that will take place, but I do remember them mentioning something about working on gear matching... but it's much too late to go searching =) I'm not too worried about it either way, since even if it was implemented, I doubt it would be that effective and people would still complain.
It is possible that that's the only form of "matching" that will take place, but I do remember them mentioning something about working on gear matching... but it's much too late to go searching =) I'm not too worried about it either way, since even if it was implemented, I doubt it would be that effective and people would still complain.
#10Allegory,
Posted: Dec 03 2006 at 3:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks, but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
Cheating:
1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
2. To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
3. Informal To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.
4. Baseball To position oneself closer to a certain area than is normal or expected: The shortstop cheated toward second base.
Tell me where Twinking falls under that.
1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
2. To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
3. Informal To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.
4. Baseball To position oneself closer to a certain area than is normal or expected: The shortstop cheated toward second base.
Tell me where Twinking falls under that.
Allegory wrote:
If you twink then you are cheating. You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly.
Hell yeah, that's part of the game. It takes finesse to steal money from the bank in monopoly, and those who are the best at doing so win.
As far as relating twinking to speedhacking, that's just silly. QQ.
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I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks, but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
I must be kidding myself then, because you're being ridiculous.
If twinks exploited a bug to get crusader or lifestealing on their overpriced level 19 blue boe weapon, then yes it would be an accurate analogy. Unfortunately for the point you're trying to make, it isn't.
Allegory,
Twinking is completely different than speed hacking and you know it.
Any player has the opportunity to gear thier toon as well as they would like. You are not hacking the game and increasing the stats without the work. Sure, a level 60 got the gold and sent it to the 19. But you still GOT THE GOLD.
With speed hacking, you are not following game restrictions and are taking control of a game you have no right to.
I hate fighting twinks but I love that they exist because everytime I do a little better aginst them, I know I am getting better.
It is still possible to beat them if I take some time to upgrade my gear a little and get better at my class.
If someone is speed hacking, I cannot do anything about it.
Blizzard put in Superior items at a low level because, without that diversity, the game would get annoying. PvPers do so because it is challenging... Why take away the challenge?
[EDIT]
And Twinking doesn't "break the game."
You know why twinking happens? It is because the people seling those amazing level 19 items do so at such a high price that only people with level 60s can buy all of them.
So should Blizzard put a cap on the price you can sell an item at and eliminate twinking or should they let the players work?
I am a low level, but if I see a piece of equipment I really want, I have no problem working for a week to get it.
Under level 10, you can easily make 10 gold a day or more. Two days for the best pieces of twink gear.
Sure, I could twink my level 16 shaman using only my level 16 shaman.
I just choose not to because I dont care that someone else has better gear than me.
Blizzard has said it from the start. It is their game and you are paying them to play it. Anything possible according to game mechanics is acceptable.
Anything from an outside source that affects "off-limits" areas of the game is not.
Edited, Dec 3rd 2006 12:47pm by idiggory
Twinking is completely different than speed hacking and you know it.
Any player has the opportunity to gear thier toon as well as they would like. You are not hacking the game and increasing the stats without the work. Sure, a level 60 got the gold and sent it to the 19. But you still GOT THE GOLD.
With speed hacking, you are not following game restrictions and are taking control of a game you have no right to.
I hate fighting twinks but I love that they exist because everytime I do a little better aginst them, I know I am getting better.
It is still possible to beat them if I take some time to upgrade my gear a little and get better at my class.
If someone is speed hacking, I cannot do anything about it.
Blizzard put in Superior items at a low level because, without that diversity, the game would get annoying. PvPers do so because it is challenging... Why take away the challenge?
[EDIT]
And Twinking doesn't "break the game."
You know why twinking happens? It is because the people seling those amazing level 19 items do so at such a high price that only people with level 60s can buy all of them.
So should Blizzard put a cap on the price you can sell an item at and eliminate twinking or should they let the players work?
I am a low level, but if I see a piece of equipment I really want, I have no problem working for a week to get it.
Under level 10, you can easily make 10 gold a day or more. Two days for the best pieces of twink gear.
Sure, I could twink my level 16 shaman using only my level 16 shaman.
I just choose not to because I dont care that someone else has better gear than me.
Blizzard has said it from the start. It is their game and you are paying them to play it. Anything possible according to game mechanics is acceptable.
Anything from an outside source that affects "off-limits" areas of the game is not.
Edited, Dec 3rd 2006 12:47pm by idiggory
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Allegory wrote:
I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks
Don't kid yourself, you know exactly what making this post will lead to.
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but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
Except that, yannow, twinking isn't against the rules AT ALL, where speed hacking and other exploits are just that. Exploits. Feel free to try to twist words around to explain how twinking is an exploit.
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If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
**** you dude. Seriously. Telling us/those who twink we/they should be ashamed is a low blow.
Edited, Dec 3rd 2006 12:53pm by BismarcksFinest
Allegory wrote:
I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks, but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
How the hell is it cheating when Blizz has made it possible to do it. Do you really think that with every dev that worked on WoW (hundreds, if not thousands), that not a single developer realized that a level 19 could get Crusader?
You're out of your mind, or just angry that twinks kill your alts if you think that speed hacking and twinking are even the same species. Speed hacks cheat in a way that Blizz never intended people to play. Twinking is just sending gold from one higher level character to a lower level character. When you log in, one of the tips is that you can send items and gold from one of your characters to another!
Twinking is not cheating. 3rd party hacks and bots are, because Blizz did not add those.
dacypher wrote:
Allegory wrote:
I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks, but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
I know I can never hope to stop twinking, but people should at least be ashamed to admit they have a twink. It should be something they try to hide and cover up.
How the hell is it cheating when Blizz has made it possible to do it. Do you really think that with every dev that worked on WoW (hundreds, if not thousands), that not a single developer realized that a level 19 could get Crusader?
You're out of your mind, or just angry that twinks kill your alts if you think that speed hacking and twinking are even the same species. Speed hacks cheat in a way that Blizz never intended people to play. Twinking is just sending gold from one higher level character to a lower level character. When you log in, one of the tips is that you can send items and gold from one of your characters to another!
Twinking is not cheating. 3rd party hacks and bots are, because Blizz did not add those.
Al and his friends on here that agree with his views demand everyone goes into battlegrounds at level 15 in assorted green "... of the XXX" gear, so it will be fair for them when they don't want to invest time/money into a character.
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I really don't want this to turn into a large and poignant arguement about twinks, but I couldn't resist the intial bait of "Blizzard has stated that they understand that "twinking" is a hobby for many players."
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
If you think there is any real diffrence between speed hacking and twinking then you're kidding yourself. The only thing that distinguishes the two from each other is the degree to which they break the game.
If you twink then you are cheating.You're stilling money formthe bank when nobody is looking in monopoly. You're placing extra army on central america in risk.
General Rules of Order:
Characters are _NOT_ allowed to gear for Battlegrounds in any significant fashion. In fact, farming for gear from an instance until you get the item you want is _cheating_. One run per instance, haphazardly, is the best you can achieve. Perhaps one Auction House blue, the rest green quest rewards from ten levels ago. - The Management
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Speaking of PvP, we're also hard at work on our team-balancing feature for the battlegrounds. This feature won't be ready for this next content patch, but will be added in a patch sometime after the expansion launches. Team balancing will help ensure that the teams facing each other in each of the game's battlegrounds will be as evenly matched as possible.
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=89609901&sid=1
Basically twinks will be against twinks and normals vs normals if they can get it to work properly, but it won't be here for a while yet.
Edited, Dec 3rd 2006 1:14pm by Muggins
Allegory, why are you re-hashing this old argument? Twinking is NOT CHEATING. Just because thats your opinion (you're obviously against it) does not make it so. Even blue posters disagree with you:
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/32278878.htm
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/29904140.htm
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/35983790.htm
And honestly Allegory, I have read many more statements like these from the Blue tracker (I have the RSS feed). I just stopped quoting them because I'm lazy. People that twink are not breaking any rules and are playing within the mechanics.
Tseric on Twinking wrote:
We find it to be a viable player-generated approach to BGs. Level requirements of items are likely to prevent the scenario you mentioned. It wasn't really the case in the current setting, so that will likely remain the same.
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/32278878.htm
Drysc wrote:
twinking has developed as its own culture to some degree within the game. It has become an unintended game within the larger game, which a lot of people seem to enjoy participating in. What I know from the reaction the word will bring about upon its very mention is that it can be frustrating to play against a twink. However, from what I know of twinking and the people involved, they don’t all twink to run over lesser geared players. There are going to be some, and they will spend as much money as possible if it means they can cause someone some small amount of grief (there are a lot of sad, lonely people in the world), but that isn’t an accurate picture of what the twinking metagame has evolved into.
To address gear and organizational advantages overall for the battlegrounds, we have the matching system going in when the expansion releases. While we want those who enjoy a specific level of character and the fun of squeezing every bit of power you can from the game to continue doing so, we want to limit how much further they can go. We will be looking into applying level restrictions for future enchantments, which won’t reduce the power of a twink now, but coupled with the matching system should help ensure they don’t get too much more powerful and are kept kind of separate from players just jumping into a BG on their way to 60.
To address gear and organizational advantages overall for the battlegrounds, we have the matching system going in when the expansion releases. While we want those who enjoy a specific level of character and the fun of squeezing every bit of power you can from the game to continue doing so, we want to limit how much further they can go. We will be looking into applying level restrictions for future enchantments, which won’t reduce the power of a twink now, but coupled with the matching system should help ensure they don’t get too much more powerful and are kept kind of separate from players just jumping into a BG on their way to 60.
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/29904140.htm
Thundgot wrote:
I think this is a matter of different playstyles, but as they affect each other very much there's bound to be conflicts, and colourful language on the forums.
On one side you have the more casual (not real casual, just more casual than the hardcore guys) PvPers of lower levels, playing some PvP for fun or to get an early rank or two. On the other side you have those who consider tweaking, twinking and squeezing as much efficiency as possible out of a lower-level character as possible a game in the game itself. I personally fall into the former group, but can definitely understand the latter too. When I came across a lucky Night Reaver drop in SFK the other week with an alt I smiled at the idea of putting it on a level 19 and go have fun in WSG. I haven't sold it yet. ;)
These are two different worlds of PvP play at that level, with many zones of grey in between. While those playing with "regular" characters hate being slaughtered by the twinks, I think many twinks would actually very much enjoy the challenge of meeting opponents of the same mindset (but yes, like everywhere, some don't, and those are the ones we remember - like that one corpse-camping level 60 rogue in Ashenvale when we had just turned 25 :p ).
On one side you have the more casual (not real casual, just more casual than the hardcore guys) PvPers of lower levels, playing some PvP for fun or to get an early rank or two. On the other side you have those who consider tweaking, twinking and squeezing as much efficiency as possible out of a lower-level character as possible a game in the game itself. I personally fall into the former group, but can definitely understand the latter too. When I came across a lucky Night Reaver drop in SFK the other week with an alt I smiled at the idea of putting it on a level 19 and go have fun in WSG. I haven't sold it yet. ;)
These are two different worlds of PvP play at that level, with many zones of grey in between. While those playing with "regular" characters hate being slaughtered by the twinks, I think many twinks would actually very much enjoy the challenge of meeting opponents of the same mindset (but yes, like everywhere, some don't, and those are the ones we remember - like that one corpse-camping level 60 rogue in Ashenvale when we had just turned 25 :p ).
Thundgot wrote:
Q u o t e:
By the way, I'm all up for HKs = exp. Though I'm sure many would disagree with the idea.
Personally, I disagree. :)
As I said, twinking is a game within the game to some, and instead of finding ways to take it away from them (by forcing them to level) I think one should focus on making sure the different groups of PvPers can meet adequate (if not necessarily like-minded) opposition.
There are several ways to be good at PvP though. Some are good at reaction-based game-play (execution), some are good at selecting or even making add-ons that give them important information (technology), some have the patience to drag a twink through multiple quests and instances (perseverance), some are good at careful planning and preparation (strategy), some are good at leading or working in groups (teamwork). Good PvPers have skills in several of these areas - the best probably excel (or have team mates that excel) in most or all of them (and probably some I didn't think of right now). Saying reaction-based skill and knowing a class perfectly should count more than twinking patience or team-play (pre-made groups) is in my opinion too simple. Its quite complicated, and hard to match-make perfectly.
I mentioned match-making twice already. There are also other changes to PvP coming (TBC). I think we're moving into a very interesting period when it comes to PvP in WoW. There will be many changes, which always bring some opposition, but I look forward to it myself and hope you share that enthusiasm
By the way, I'm all up for HKs = exp. Though I'm sure many would disagree with the idea.
Personally, I disagree. :)
As I said, twinking is a game within the game to some, and instead of finding ways to take it away from them (by forcing them to level) I think one should focus on making sure the different groups of PvPers can meet adequate (if not necessarily like-minded) opposition.
There are several ways to be good at PvP though. Some are good at reaction-based game-play (execution), some are good at selecting or even making add-ons that give them important information (technology), some have the patience to drag a twink through multiple quests and instances (perseverance), some are good at careful planning and preparation (strategy), some are good at leading or working in groups (teamwork). Good PvPers have skills in several of these areas - the best probably excel (or have team mates that excel) in most or all of them (and probably some I didn't think of right now). Saying reaction-based skill and knowing a class perfectly should count more than twinking patience or team-play (pre-made groups) is in my opinion too simple. Its quite complicated, and hard to match-make perfectly.
I mentioned match-making twice already. There are also other changes to PvP coming (TBC). I think we're moving into a very interesting period when it comes to PvP in WoW. There will be many changes, which always bring some opposition, but I look forward to it myself and hope you share that enthusiasm
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/35983790.htm
And honestly Allegory, I have read many more statements like these from the Blue tracker (I have the RSS feed). I just stopped quoting them because I'm lazy. People that twink are not breaking any rules and are playing within the mechanics.
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People that twink are not breaking any rules and are playing within the mechanics.
Yeah, but they're still ******** for closing down three BG brackets for regular players who might want to partake of some structured pvp while leveling up.
Sigh I took some heat before for the twinking=cheating thing, and I don't want (was it Webjunky) to have to come in here and force me to make the same correction.^^
Ah it was Webjunky. Thank you for calling me out on being wrong again.
I was again using cheat for the connotation, and not the actual definition.
Surely you can see the divding line between a powerful chracter and broken?
And as much as these sardonic statements would like to make a point...well I have no problem with gear. Take a look a the gear most twinks wear. Sure some of the best stuff are rare BoEs, but most of it is highly attainable Bops, BoPs which differ slightly from the absolute best. Even a mixture of bleu can green can easily compete. The line is drawn at enchants. Nothing really compares to them.
To say I have a problem with the effort involved in making a competitive lowbie bg character is flawed. I didn't play FFXI for a year and succeed without effort. And I was a member of the pancake bunnies that Allakhazam engendered.
It was bad of me to drag this out further, I'm sorry fro that. But I don't understand how a twink can enter a BG, knowingly decrease teh fun for the 19 other people in it, and not feel like they are doing something dirty.
Webjunky wrote:
Allegory, why are you re-hashing this old argument? Twinking is NOT CHEATING. Just because thats your opinion (you're obviously against it) does not make it so. Even blue posters disagree with you:
Ah it was Webjunky. Thank you for calling me out on being wrong again.
I was again using cheat for the connotation, and not the actual definition.
RPZip wrote:
General Rules of Order:
Characters are _NOT_ allowed to gear for Battlegrounds in any significant fashion. In fact, farming for gear from an instance until you get the item you want is _cheating_. One run per instance, haphazardly, is the best you can achieve. Perhaps one Auction House blue, the rest green quest rewards from ten levels ago. - The Management
Characters are _NOT_ allowed to gear for Battlegrounds in any significant fashion. In fact, farming for gear from an instance until you get the item you want is _cheating_. One run per instance, haphazardly, is the best you can achieve. Perhaps one Auction House blue, the rest green quest rewards from ten levels ago. - The Management
Surely you can see the divding line between a powerful chracter and broken?
And as much as these sardonic statements would like to make a point...well I have no problem with gear. Take a look a the gear most twinks wear. Sure some of the best stuff are rare BoEs, but most of it is highly attainable Bops, BoPs which differ slightly from the absolute best. Even a mixture of bleu can green can easily compete. The line is drawn at enchants. Nothing really compares to them.
To say I have a problem with the effort involved in making a competitive lowbie bg character is flawed. I didn't play FFXI for a year and succeed without effort. And I was a member of the pancake bunnies that Allakhazam engendered.
It was bad of me to drag this out further, I'm sorry fro that. But I don't understand how a twink can enter a BG, knowingly decrease teh fun for the 19 other people in it, and not feel like they are doing something dirty.
In my opinion, Blizzard were dumbasses for not putting level requirements on enchants like they managed to do on potions, bandages, armor and weapons. What makes enchants different?
Players took advantage of this blooper and made twinks the powerhouses they are today. It's not the player's fault, really. He just used a part of the game mechanics that Blizzard put in front of him. I understand why people want to be bigger and better than everyone else.
The fault is ENTIRELY on Blizzard's side. They should've put level requirements on to begin with. Now they can't force people to "unenchant" or lose the enchants since people would get majorly pissed off after having spent 500g or so on enchants only to have them go down the drain.
On the other hand, uber twinks do ruin the lower level BG fun for new players. And players telling me to stop QQ'ing because everyone and their grandma has a level 60 should shut the **** up and smell the flowers. World of Warcraft is, like any other MMORPG in constant motion. Players leave and new ones join. And telling me to "just" level out the bracket is the dumbest ******* excuse ever. You want me to rush through the game? Why that sounds like so much fun! But why? So I can become bored with the game like you and create my own twink?
I don't mind twinks, per se. I mind Blizzard's lack of spine and the elitist attitude some twinks have picked up lately.
Oh and sorry about the cussing in this post. I get a little.. passionate.
Players took advantage of this blooper and made twinks the powerhouses they are today. It's not the player's fault, really. He just used a part of the game mechanics that Blizzard put in front of him. I understand why people want to be bigger and better than everyone else.
The fault is ENTIRELY on Blizzard's side. They should've put level requirements on to begin with. Now they can't force people to "unenchant" or lose the enchants since people would get majorly pissed off after having spent 500g or so on enchants only to have them go down the drain.
On the other hand, uber twinks do ruin the lower level BG fun for new players. And players telling me to stop QQ'ing because everyone and their grandma has a level 60 should shut the **** up and smell the flowers. World of Warcraft is, like any other MMORPG in constant motion. Players leave and new ones join. And telling me to "just" level out the bracket is the dumbest ******* excuse ever. You want me to rush through the game? Why that sounds like so much fun! But why? So I can become bored with the game like you and create my own twink?
I don't mind twinks, per se. I mind Blizzard's lack of spine and the elitist attitude some twinks have picked up lately.
Oh and sorry about the cussing in this post. I get a little.. passionate.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra the Meaningless wrote:
In my opinion, Blizzard were dumbasses for not putting level requirements on enchants like they managed to do on potions, bandages, armor and weapons. What makes enchants different?
I guess when the good ppl at Blizz came up with the idea of enchanting as a profession, they discussed the need for level requirements...
Dev 1: Hey, should we put level requirements on the enchants?
Dev 2: Its a good idea, but those are considered spells, it would take a lot more work to code unless we like erm make enchants like armor packs?
Dev 1: That would be not so enchanting like eh? Alright lets stick with it then. but what if players use high level enchants on low level items?
Dev 2: Nah, its too expensive and they will outgrow the item why spend so much resources on something that will at the most last you for 2 weeks?
Dev 1: good point....
now.....
Dev 1: Man.... look at all these posts on the o-board abt it just yesterday Drysc came by and show me this huge rant abt enchants ruining the lower level battle grounds.
Dev 2: Yeah I know, who wodda tot that ppl actually DO NOT level and spend a huge ton of gold on enchants. Oh look at this guy, he has almost 2.5 tims the hit points a normal toon would have at that level! This is bad... can we do something abt it?
Dev 1: Too late man, TC just said that its even more work to retroactively go back and fix this. He reckons we should fix what we can in the expac and meanwhile we are both assigned tester duties....
Dev 2: oh man......
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