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#202 Jun 05 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Can I /claim a sticky?

AkikoKittel wrote:

If Blizzard has over Seventy-Five Million Subscribers(75,000,000) who all pay from $15-$30 US per month for a service,(an average of $22.50 per month) then they are receiving $1,687,500,000 per MONTH, for a total income(NOT counting sales of the game itself, and associated products) of $20,250,000,000 per year. JUST from subscription costs to World of Warcraft alone.


I thought Blizz had 6 million subscribers. 75 million seems way to high, unless I'm missing something.
#203 Jun 05 2006 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Duke Chubbycox wrote:
Can I /claim a sticky?

AkikoKittel wrote:

If Blizzard has over Seventy-Five Million Subscribers(75,000,000) who all pay from $15-$30 US per month for a service,


I thought Blizz had 6 million subscribers. 75 million seems way to high, unless I'm missing something.


Yeah really. Isn't 75 million like, half the US population? (Totally guessing, but 75 million is more than 10 times WoW's subscriber base.) And who pays $30?

AkikoKittel wrote:
I play on Mannaroth, one of the most popular and heavily populated (if not THE most) realm in WoW. Strangely, they decided to upgrade/replace hardware for many realms, but decided NOT to upgrade the money-making realm, Mannaroth.


[Taken from WoW site, Battleplan on May 3rd]
Going Retro
The new zones added to the game in The Burning Crusade will increase Azeroth's current land mass by 25 percent. To insure that Azeroth continues to feel vibrant and populated, we will be increasing the player caps on all our realms by the same percentage. The new hardware installed on our 5th and 6th sites will be able to handle this increase in concurrency with some adjustments, but the hardware on our mature sites cannot. Therefore, over the next few months we will also be retrofitting our mature sites with the same top-of-the-line hardware deployed at our new sites. Players won't need the expansion to notice the performance boost this new hardware will bring to these sites.
[/end blue note]

If you read this, you'll notice it says over the next FEW months. One month has gone by. Perhaps Mannoroth is scheduled for this month, or the next.
#204 Jun 05 2006 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
Last I heard the subscriber base was around 6 million.

The US has close to 300 million citizens.

Arguments about how much money they make from the monthly fee are generally pretty dense. You need to factor in a lot of costs. Hardware, ISP, staff, benefits, buildings, power, marketing, new projects, other projects, money pit projects (*cough*Ghost*cough*), and so on. After all that I wouldn't be surprised if there were only a couple nickles left over from each account as 'profit'.

But then, what do I know, I'm not Blizzard. They could all be swimming in huge vaults of money as you say. You know, like Scrooge McDuck or something.
#205 Jun 06 2006 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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Duck Tales, awhoooo
#206 Jun 06 2006 at 7:40 AM Rating: Default
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You need to factor in a lot of costs. Hardware, ISP, staff, benefits, buildings, power, marketing, new projects, other projects, money pit projects (*cough*Ghost*cough*), and so on. After all that I wouldn't be surprised if there were only a couple nickles left over from each account as 'profit'.


I'm afraid that is an incorrect observation of cost accounting. Remember that WoW is only one of many products made by Blizzard. Therefore, it is WRONG to say that the above costs can be 100% offset against the revenue generated from WoW.
Example, how right is it to say that Blizzard is profitting less from WoW because some other project is sucking away all their funds? That's the same as saying, WoW is directly responsible for that lost money, when it clearly isn't.

The point i'm trying to make is this: Blizzard would not continue selling WoW as a product if its profit margin was not INCREASING.

Blizzard is NOT a charity organization.
#207 Jun 06 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Default
Yes, 75 million subscribers is way off the mark.

So how about we work with a much, much more conservative estimate, of 5 million subscribers. And let's also use a conservative monthly subscription fee average of $15.

Therefore, 5,000,000 X $15 X 12 = $900,000,000 = 0.9 Billion dollars.

So let's say they messed up their cost estimates and managed to make only 10% of profit out of WoW.

So, 10% of $900,000,000 = $90,000,000 = USD$90,000,000.

I don't know where you come from, but where i come from, a "take home" of 90 million bucks is @%@%!$ good! And that's for a product that doesn't work 20% of the time (average of 1.5 days down, out of 7 days)!

I guess the bottom line is, their being able to get away with it just underlines what a great game WoW is!
#208 Jun 06 2006 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
its no 12:30 in new jersey and the servers are still not up when do you think there gonna be up and running?
#209 Jun 06 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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assabian wrote:
its no 12:30 in new jersey and the servers are still not up when do you think there gonna be up and running?


You know that first line of the sticky, where it says 5am-11am PST....

So, that would be 2 PM EST in Jersey
#210 Jun 06 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
ok thankx alot
#211 Jun 13 2006 at 7:37 AM Rating: Default
Yeah, I goofed. Should've been 7.5 Million, but somehow I completely missed the decimal, and as I was looking at that number, it became "ingrained" as THE number.

Oh, btw..... iiiiiiiiiiiiiit's TUESDAY! "zomg!!!111 The servorz are down!! What can I do?! Does ne1 no a private servor where I can playz?"

I heard someone say that not long before Mannaroth went down, in IF, while I was chatting with a Guildie(waiting on the server to finally shut down). It's always fun to hear people carrying on about how the world is going to end. The "Repent! The end is hand!" crap gets old, though.

I just hope they don't find some weird way to ***** things up again. I'd much rather prefer to spend my time PLAYING and not hoping I MIGHT be able to connect, after a previous 30+ failures to connect because Blizzard couldn't find their **** with both hands, a mirror, a map, and two friends to help.

...sigh. Bored already.
#212 Jun 13 2006 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
I am in Texas....and it is central time... what time is maintenance done?
#213 Jun 13 2006 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
Huzzah! It's tuesday! And it doesn't deserve a huzzah!

Woooooo...

Boredom...

Heh, I remember on my first maintenance day I thought WoW was being hacked. Then I came here and read this thread O_o.
#214 Jun 13 2006 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
Will someone answer my question??? o.O
#215 Jun 13 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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KletotheConfused wrote:
I am in Texas....and it is central time... what time is maintenance done?


Seriously...

PST is 2 hours difference. Your server should be up at 1pm CST.

As the sticky states, MAint is from 5am-11amPST, so Mountain time would be 12pm, CST would be 1pm, and EST would be 2pm...if they come up on time.

#216 Jun 13 2006 at 12:40 PM Rating: Default
Ok thx i got it...lol i am 13 i am stupid and don't know these things so now i know xD
#217 Jun 20 2006 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
Haha 75 million people...
#218 Jun 20 2006 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
CaptainOmelette wrote:
This never works...You just out to Smiley: spam Up your post count.


That's evil and shameless....



Wish I'd of thought of it first. Smiley: grin

thats such a good use of spam lol
#219 Jun 20 2006 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
I hate patch days.

GG, Blizz! I disable my firewall so your Piece of CRAP downloader can download the new patch, restart so the change takes effect, and guess what?! "You appear to be behind a Firewall. Click Here for more info." And this somehow happens AFTER it downloads 83% of the damned patch!

WTF? You force us to endure long hours of the background downloader lagging us while we try to play, then the damned downloader won't connect on patch day? Are you F**KING serious?!

....I hate Tuesday.

*Edit* It's 1840-ish now, and after discovering that my firewall needs to be ON, I re-enable it, make sure the appropriate ports are open, and yet the download is STILL stuck at 83%(127/151mb).

So wtf is going on? Am I going to be able to play today? Or this week? Or has Blizz pulled the ****** gig again and screwed it up?

*sigh* If only they would THINK before writing these applications/patches. WoW might be a great experience if they would.

Edited, Jun 20th 2006 at 9:41pm EDT by AkikoKittel
#220 Jun 21 2006 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
Mine is stuck at 84% every time i try. BALLS I SAY. BALLS.
I need to ding *starts to claw compter desk*
#221 Jun 21 2006 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
i have the exact same problem. it stops at 84% to me though but the numbers 127/151mb are still the same.
As u, i tried everything from diabling every firewall i could find, to try desperatly to find bliz support phone number. but stupid me havent written it down, and woooow, the site is down to^^
so there i am sitting with practically 0 knowledge about computers (im a girlygirl) and dunno what to do. but afer a call to my bf i was soothed a bit. looks like the wow servers have crashed.. again^^ why am i not surprised..

so, ill just wait a few hours and hope. thats the best any of us can do i suppose.
but just let us all hope the servers come back up soon^^
#222 Jun 21 2006 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Follow the advice here to d/l the EU patch :
    http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21;mid=1150813221144429696;num=85;page=2#115089513337198232


The servers are still down though as of 14.50 GMT !!

Ridiculous.

Try again around 18.00.

Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 9:50am EDT by destrox

Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 11:28am EDT by destrox
#223 Jun 21 2006 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
That wonderful display, I was also stuck at 84%, left for like an hour hoping that it would work again later, then nothing!

I looked up the info from that link that downloader gives you, said that google and yahoo toolbar pop up blocker can stop it, so I uninstalled them, restarted like it said and then....

I start this thing again and it takes me to 89%. WOW this is amazing. I am getting really irritated with this ****.

This patch went live on America yesterday and they playing properly after the patch/maintenance. So what the hell is different. I am getting really pissed off with this.

World of Warcraft has 6 million subscribers and they also have a huge ammount of staff.

Please explain to me why this is happening..

cause I am getting really ******n pissed off and paying money to suffer this. OMFG
#224 Jun 21 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
London calling!!!

Had the same 83 - 84% problem all morning. Finally decided to leave the Blizz Downloader open despite it telling me that I have a firewall on and that the tracker isn't responding etc... 1 hour later and I have jumped to 85%. Not much, but at least it proves the error messages on the downloader box are about as reliable as a Warrior tank wearing nothing but a guild tabard in ZF :P
#225 Jun 21 2006 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
I had the 84% problem, quit the downloader and restarted.
It slowly started going up.
Servers are still down though.
#226 Jun 21 2006 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
What % are you at now? I am still at 85 since posting.....
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