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Alright, so I undrestand there is Player vs Player on the PvE server as well. So what EXACTLY is the diff between the PvE and PvP servers?
PvP is Pity vs Pandamoneum
PvE is Pity vs Elation
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In PVE you choose when you PVP.
On PVP you get ganked while fishing, by someone 20 levels higher than you.
if you fish in contested territory, then yes, but it is not that different than a PvE server in which that if your faction controls a territory, you cant be "ganked" unless you flag /pvp.
In PvE you have to agree to PvP.
In PvP if you run into someone from the opposing faction you can attack them or vice-versa. You can't openly attack people from your faction...you still have to agree to duel with 'friendly' targets.
In PvP if you run into someone from the opposing faction you can attack them or vice-versa. You can't openly attack people from your faction...you still have to agree to duel with 'friendly' targets.
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but it is not that different than a PvE server in which that if your faction controls a territory
Higher level zones are all contested.
Higher level fishing can only be done in higher level zones.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
Is this Sujiro from FF XI? The Samurai from Ifrit server?
PvE is the win, that's all you gotta know, all the good stuff of PvP with no bad. Its perfect! :)
personaly im a big PvP fan.. which to confuse you all horribly.. is why i DONT play PvP servers.
ill try to explain, basicaly put ive been demoralised by PvP as a whole, and infact view it more as PK then PvP.
as a PvPer i look for people of my level of partialy higher than myself to challege, and battle with.
often i find myself attacked by the people who can kill me with one or two hits, this isnt just WoW, but its a good example of it.
i really frown at people going for the easy kills on the battle feild. infact i really despise it.
granted it cant really be avoided. but i just wish there were more players who played PvP for the conflict, and challenge.. and not the winning.
so many people on the PvP servers like winning they dont look for the challenges, and some down right avoid it.
its like the typical "school yard" bully, beating up the younger kids and when someone bigger comes along.. they run.
and thats why i dont feel like playing PvP servers, because its either a group of high level's just going on a newb stomp, or its a zerg rush.
once in a blue moon im impressed by someone trying to do things differntly, but often id never find enouth people like that around.
im not telling people who may enjoy PvP how it currently is that they are wrong, im just giveing my opinion on it, and wondering how many people who are PvPers do acutaly look for people around their level to fight. rather than just going for the easy kills, or even worse go off just to gank newer players :/
ill try to explain, basicaly put ive been demoralised by PvP as a whole, and infact view it more as PK then PvP.
as a PvPer i look for people of my level of partialy higher than myself to challege, and battle with.
often i find myself attacked by the people who can kill me with one or two hits, this isnt just WoW, but its a good example of it.
i really frown at people going for the easy kills on the battle feild. infact i really despise it.
granted it cant really be avoided. but i just wish there were more players who played PvP for the conflict, and challenge.. and not the winning.
so many people on the PvP servers like winning they dont look for the challenges, and some down right avoid it.
its like the typical "school yard" bully, beating up the younger kids and when someone bigger comes along.. they run.
and thats why i dont feel like playing PvP servers, because its either a group of high level's just going on a newb stomp, or its a zerg rush.
once in a blue moon im impressed by someone trying to do things differntly, but often id never find enouth people like that around.
im not telling people who may enjoy PvP how it currently is that they are wrong, im just giveing my opinion on it, and wondering how many people who are PvPers do acutaly look for people around their level to fight. rather than just going for the easy kills, or even worse go off just to gank newer players :/
PvP is the for real gamers! It's the closest to reality. You enter enemy terriorty are your own risk.
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Unnecessarily snarky.
Edited, Sun Nov 21 21:03:39 2004 by KithPine
Unnecessarily snarky.
Edited, Sun Nov 21 21:03:39 2004 by KithPine
Kaikalo I agree with you entirely :D
just two problems i have with the PvE servers.
1. You should not be able to casualy walk into the heart of the horde territory if you and an alliance and vice versa.
2. If a giant mob of 40+ players is running to one of your cities you should be able to strike them before they get there. not have to wait till the enemy gets in to position and starts the attack.
1. You should not be able to casualy walk into the heart of the horde territory if you and an alliance and vice versa.
2. If a giant mob of 40+ players is running to one of your cities you should be able to strike them before they get there. not have to wait till the enemy gets in to position and starts the attack.
LeChimp just made my point ^^
Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong I'm just basically guessing on this, but if you form a raid group of 40 people to go raid a city, doesn't that automatically flag you for pvp?
I thought that as soon as you clicked form raid party, that you were automatically flagged. This means that you could attack players that were on their way to your town before they actually got there.
The only alternative would be to get 40 of your friends, all go and stand just outside the borders of a city, then start the raid party and charge....and although there might be some losers who would do this just for the advantage, I think more than likely people will raid up before they charge a city.
Again, if I'm wrong about getting flagged upon forming a raid, please let me know, it's not my intention to give out bad info.
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I thought that as soon as you clicked form raid party, that you were automatically flagged. This means that you could attack players that were on their way to your town before they actually got there.
The only alternative would be to get 40 of your friends, all go and stand just outside the borders of a city, then start the raid party and charge....and although there might be some losers who would do this just for the advantage, I think more than likely people will raid up before they charge a city.
Again, if I'm wrong about getting flagged upon forming a raid, please let me know, it's not my intention to give out bad info.
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PvP is the for real gamers! It's the closest to reality. You enter enemy terriorty are your own risk.
just a thought.. but isnt the definition of a game.. something that isnt reality.. ? so technicaly by that logic.. the "real" or extream gamers are people who place the most surreal and outlandish games..
like katamari damancy.. for instance..
hehehe i love that game! ^_^
personaly i play a game to get away from reality :P not to get closer to it.
but the second part is spot on, and certinaly a valid point, just like what lechimp said..
it would be very nice not to meet a dwarf outside the gates of ogrimar, yabbering his gibberish and you cant do anything to kill the kossak danceing blighter but try and trick him into getting closer to the guards :/
Regarding the Orc standing outside of Ironforge,
You can always just insult the crap out of him. I mean if the player has any honor what so ever, he will fight you if you make fun of him enough. I've used this technique many times, normally to pull players out of hiding.
Sometimes you have to use a little imagination. I really am not interested in playing PVP at this time. I'm not comfortable enough with the UI for one, and there's a lot of non PVP content I want to explore. So if someone is taunting you from just outside a contested area or something, you may have to out think him a little, that's all.
Once I know my way around the controls and the lands better, probably after I cap a character, then I'll go back and start on the PVP server. I just don't really want to be at the mercy of other players this early in the game, even though the point made about PVP being closer to "reality" is valid.
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You can always just insult the crap out of him. I mean if the player has any honor what so ever, he will fight you if you make fun of him enough. I've used this technique many times, normally to pull players out of hiding.
Sometimes you have to use a little imagination. I really am not interested in playing PVP at this time. I'm not comfortable enough with the UI for one, and there's a lot of non PVP content I want to explore. So if someone is taunting you from just outside a contested area or something, you may have to out think him a little, that's all.
Once I know my way around the controls and the lands better, probably after I cap a character, then I'll go back and start on the PVP server. I just don't really want to be at the mercy of other players this early in the game, even though the point made about PVP being closer to "reality" is valid.
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You should not be able to casualy walk into the heart of the horde territory if you and an alliance and vice versa.
I'm sorry to tell ya but that happens on PvP servers as well bro. Ever been to Loch Modan? You have any idea how ridiculously easy it is for 30+ lvl groups to get into that area? A lowbie area at that. It's fricking retarded. Kinda weird being a lvl 16 Dwarf Hunter heading to the Dam to get my "Save the Dam Quest" and spot myself a dozen or so lvl 60's just chilling fishing off of the edge of the dam. Down right annoying if you ask me. They should up the guard level to 75 like they do at the cities. For borderland zones.
It's ridiculous that I can head over to Duskwood and find higher level guards there than I can at Loch Modan. And btw a person is flagged for pvp upon entering an enemy city no matter what server you're on. In case someone was wondering.
real question would be why would you not play in a PVP server...
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this is my first time posting on allakhazam, but been comeing to this site reading forums since may. I got to say coming from my experince, payed all server types PvP RP PVE, PVP servers were the most fun i ever had. I would love to play RP server at retail only if it was pvp too me if it isnt faction vs faction it isnt as immersive to me to roleplay.
back to the question at hand i think both pve and pvp has advantages and disadvantges based on your personal play style. Me personally i dont liked being ganked in a raid on a PVE server when some tard wont put his flag till he is behind my char and hurt. This does not settle with me. Oh and they are usally chars that are too high to tell what level they are.
in pvp i know what to expect, i believe there is more sense of honor and teamwork on those servers. You really cant get ganked at really low levels til about level 20, but that is where the teamwork comes in. Where you do quests in contested aeras or exp there knowing of constant danger, but haveing a party to back you up. Not only that faction guilds come into play too. To me this is warcraft at its finest. That is all i can really say about pvp vs pve.
On the subject of RP servers, to me they are just PVE servers but with a influx of people spaming channels saying RP sucks or what is RP? Maybe it was because of beta who knows. I did have some great experinces with roleplaying but i hated the fact i could to to the crossroads as a tauren and see danceing naked ngiht elves and gnomes next to horde gaurds. (thats not roleplaying to me). also that is another reason why i prefer PVP. Well these forums seem to be alot better then the bnet forums which i like i will continue to keep posting. ^^
back to the question at hand i think both pve and pvp has advantages and disadvantges based on your personal play style. Me personally i dont liked being ganked in a raid on a PVE server when some tard wont put his flag till he is behind my char and hurt. This does not settle with me. Oh and they are usally chars that are too high to tell what level they are.
in pvp i know what to expect, i believe there is more sense of honor and teamwork on those servers. You really cant get ganked at really low levels til about level 20, but that is where the teamwork comes in. Where you do quests in contested aeras or exp there knowing of constant danger, but haveing a party to back you up. Not only that faction guilds come into play too. To me this is warcraft at its finest. That is all i can really say about pvp vs pve.
On the subject of RP servers, to me they are just PVE servers but with a influx of people spaming channels saying RP sucks or what is RP? Maybe it was because of beta who knows. I did have some great experinces with roleplaying but i hated the fact i could to to the crossroads as a tauren and see danceing naked ngiht elves and gnomes next to horde gaurds. (thats not roleplaying to me). also that is another reason why i prefer PVP. Well these forums seem to be alot better then the bnet forums which i like i will continue to keep posting. ^^
Yep, the guards will attack you on sight if you enter enemy territory no matter what the server is...and this flags you for pvp. Personally I think the guards are too high of a level in major cities, and too low of a level in newbie areas. I think in newbie areas the guards should be impossible to kill, simply because ganking a new player is that lame.
ganking a new player is lame, yes but
in new area (oppsit fation) you can't atttack them unless they hit you 1st. or did a pvp in the past 2 min
is it 2 min?
Edited, Sun Nov 21 22:47:51 2004 by XvermonX
in new area (oppsit fation) you can't atttack them unless they hit you 1st. or did a pvp in the past 2 min
is it 2 min?
Edited, Sun Nov 21 22:47:51 2004 by XvermonX
Think its longer than 2 mins after hitting /pvp, since I remember it lasting for a long while in the barrens when i was doing some alliance raid thwarting.
You cant just "insult" them to initiate the PvP. Remember, its different language ^^
But I think the guy was trying to say if you spot a group of enemies HEADING to your territory, you should be able to PvP with them BEFORE they enter the territory.
But yea, I think there should be at least one level 75 guard in every terriority. Basically if one person tries to enter, s/he is a dead meat. But a group of players can easily ganked the guard, and that left the players to defend the territory.
But I think the guy was trying to say if you spot a group of enemies HEADING to your territory, you should be able to PvP with them BEFORE they enter the territory.
But yea, I think there should be at least one level 75 guard in every terriority. Basically if one person tries to enter, s/he is a dead meat. But a group of players can easily ganked the guard, and that left the players to defend the territory.
It's on a 5 min timer after /pvp.
Oh, and the reason I say that the guards are too high of a level in the major cities is because the players there can sit there and let the guards take care of everything, unless the raid is a group of lvl40+. I just think that defence of a town should be left up to the players instead of the npc's. I think guards are great, but I don't think guards should be gods (except in newbie areas, like I said). =P
Edited, Sun Nov 21 22:59:39 2004 by Ikerus
Oh, and the reason I say that the guards are too high of a level in the major cities is because the players there can sit there and let the guards take care of everything, unless the raid is a group of lvl40+. I just think that defence of a town should be left up to the players instead of the npc's. I think guards are great, but I don't think guards should be gods (except in newbie areas, like I said). =P
Edited, Sun Nov 21 22:59:39 2004 by Ikerus
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