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#1 Nov 21 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
Hey there.

I was in open beta and got a Human Warrior up to level 16. But I have a few questions.

Which races are best Warriors? I'd like to be either a Human or Night Elf but don't know which is better.... or if either are good at all.

And what would be more effective for a warrior. I was thinking leveling up my one hand sword and two hand sword. But really using the one hand and shield most, as well as spend all my talents in defense so I can be a damage taking powerhouse for raids. What do you think? Oppinions?
#2 Nov 21 2004 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Since you said you want:

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using the one hand and shield most, as well as spend all my talents in defense so I can be a damage taking powerhouse for raids.


I would suggest the ole Sword and Board. Two handers are great for dishing out the damage, but if you want to ABSORB the most damage, the added Armor and ability to block damage with a shield is the way to go.
#3 Nov 21 2004 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
One thing i noticed while playing in regards to weapon skill leveling is that once you are about 1 point from your level cap, it will take a lot to get that extra point. Therefore I would prioritize your weapon choices for 1 and 2 handed weapons as you have done. Since you are a warrior you have access to all weapons but wands so once you are 1 point away I would suggest leveling the next weapon.
#4 Nov 21 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Which races are best Warriors? I'd like to be either a Human or Night Elf but don't know which is better.... or if either are good at all.


There is no "best". Best in particular regards, maybe. Humans have weapon bonuses for swords and maces. Night Elves can dodge and make themselves vanish while standing still. Dwarves can gain immunity to harmful status effects for a short time. Who's to say one is better than the other?

And if *any* race was a best, it would probably be Tauren, followed by Orc - check the starting stats and racial traits. I realize they're Horde though.
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#5 Nov 21 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
In your case i would stick with the human and get a one handed sword with a shield. or even pick paladin cause they seem like they are more defense oriented. If i was looking for a defensive human paladin would be my choice. get a nice one handed mace and shield and ur set to battle or be a tank
#6 Nov 21 2004 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Honestly, if you are going allaince just be a Paladin, they are better at just about everything the warrior does and have a lot more usefull skils AND they are the only other class that gets plate mail. Race won't matter on bit really.

I think I'm going a horde warrior again (like I was in OB) and will take a mostly protection route just because that seems like the best for group play currently. Will use 1H weapon + shield, with the 1H weapon being the best DPS weapon I can find. Since training weapons up isn't super hard if you put your mind to it, I will have all 1H weapons available to my use.
#7 Nov 21 2004 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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hunters get mail too..

And no, some people like playing warriors more so than paladins, its a personal preferance.
#8 Nov 21 2004 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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hunters get mail too..

not plate mail.
#9 Nov 21 2004 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
Well I didn't play any furthur then lv 20 so I don't know much about higher levels, but it seems warrior has more aggro keeping techniques in it's defensive stance. If you want to be a tank then I would say warrior as they are the tanking class of WoW acording to Blizz, not the Paladin.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/
#10 Nov 21 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Not plate mail, hunters get chain mail @ 40, where as wars and plds get plate mail @ 40.
#11 Nov 21 2004 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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In the long run, Warriors will have more HP's and hold aggro better than a Paladin could hope for.

So if someone one wants to be the damage absorber (by holding aggro), Warrior would be the better choice
#12 Nov 21 2004 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
Actually a Pally could probably outlast anyone in a fight, but a warrior has better DPS. I'm not familiar with Pali, Shaman can hold taunt better then a warrior and heal themselves when needed. I believe Palies have some spells that allow some minor agro control. At the moment warriors have to rely on damage to keep agro which is pretty weak. They really need to give warries a spamable taunt of some kind.
#13 Nov 21 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
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They did give warrior a spammable taunt, it was included in the last patch for beta.

# Warrior abilities that target one or more enemies now generate additional threat.

# Taunt: Now gives the target just enough threat to attack you. Cooldown added.

They also tweaked a few things to help warriors even more, of key interest to most warriors:

Defensive Stance: Now reduces damage taken and damage caused instead of increasing Defense skill.
#14 Nov 21 2004 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Its very possible to tank as a war in defensive stance. Sunder armor, the shouts and normal damage will help control aggro. Then they seemed to have fixed taunt so it has a little threat associated with it as well. A Shield Block/Revenge combo is a great way to go also, seems to build up moderate threat.

Honestly I never said a war can't tank or do damage, I just meant that right now I think Paladins are a supeior class to war in the hands of most people, they get plate mail @ 40, can wield 2 Handed weapons and have a bunch of really usefull spells. I'm going war in retail I'm pretty sure (debating between that and shaman still..) and did enjoy my time playing it and think it can still be a very effective class.
#15 Nov 21 2004 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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I only played my warrior and paladin up to the upper 20's, but I can say that though my Paladin had a higher armor, my Warrior definitly did more damage, could absorb more damage and could hold aggro MUCH better.

Now perhaps I am not like most people and in my hands the Warrior outshone my Paladin in terms of playing tank. But I really doubt that is the case. Because frankly, I doubt I can do better than most at playing a class.

True a Paladin has a few nice spells, but a Priest/Druid has much better versions of these spells and a smart Warrior always has a Priest/Druid near. Paladins are tougher to kill, but in a group scenerio (which is what I think of when determining tanking skills), this benefit carries over to the whole group.

In a group with a Paladin, Warrior, Priest, Hunter and Mage. The only difficulties I had holding aggro was when the Mage over-cooked the mob. There was no way the Paladin could take aggro from me, if I was determined (and I usually am) to hold aggro.

Paladins are nice, but we have to snap out of our perceptions that are colored by other games. Warriors are going to be the best tanks, that is what they do. Paladins are going to be the best at giving the group-wide buffs, that is what they do.

Each class has something they are better at than all the other classes. Or else there would be no need for different classes.
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