the penalty in pvpFollow

permadeath? u freaking nuts just for having that cross your mind...

lol take away a bag slot for a few hours for each time u die...im kidding btw

there is no penalty now ... what do u mean by harsher?
noone is afraid to die really ... they blink two wimes, curse a little bit if at all ... and go get their bodies
low lvl noobs are free to go to oposing faction land ... only by the cost of few dies and some running around ... thats why

Edited, Sun Nov 21 14:02:23 2004 by Ashh

Ashh, the penalty is dishonour. Read up on the honour system on the official site, sheesh.

for one, being taken out of battle for 2-5 minutes is a penalty.

secondly, You cannot attack other people in oppossing lands without them attacking you. That means that if a low level noob did go there, they would only be met by being attacked untill he went back home.

Actually red, there is no longer a dura penalty for PvP deaths, being done so because it simply was just too expensive to the point youd have to farm on a 5:1 basis.

Edited, Sun Nov 21 14:11:52 2004 by VampyreKnight

Try raiding places where the graveyard is oh so very far away from where your raid group is (like 5-10 minute run, damn you Ashenvale).

Also, consider that they can lead you straight into Guards. Guards are NPCs so they will give you a nice big durability hit on your items.

I'm sure that you can convince some friends to join the Horde, level up to your level and let them kill you. You know, cause your friends just love bending over like that and getting reamed. Even if that's the case, you can't even communicate with each other in-game.

And who the hell wants to put work into a character just for him to get beaten up?

Forgot about that :D Thanks for the reminder!

Seriously, though, Ashh, if you are looking for a "hardcore" penalty in WoW, you're not going to find it other then the dishonor system. This is not Diablo 2 on hardcore mode nor will it ever be. Just keep that in mind...

Edited, Sun Nov 21 14:25:13 2004 by Redmoonxl

Massive battles happen quite frequently if you know where to go and who to fight. It helps being in a good guild.

and why would i need lots of friends ... i just will go to some other server ... convice some local ... and farm eachother in the diferent servers ... dont u think it would a fair deal ...
since u can gain honor from killing again and again the same person ? ... if there is a restriction from whom u gain honor and whom u dont ... which would sound like this ... u cant get honor from the same person twice ... the result will be ... this same person comming back ... again and again to take back his honor ... so ... ?
summ zero is not good ...

Edited, Sun Nov 21 14:27:34 2004 by Ashh

You gain honor by killing someone within your level (greens to reds)

You lose honor by killing players way lower then you are level wise (the greys)

It is difficult to "farm" honor because of the ressurection timer. In order for honor to work in your favor, you must kill multiple targets in a short time. Keep in mind that a group of greens can kill you.

The more dishonor you lose, the more outlaw you become. You will not be able to enter some towns, guards will attack you on sight and other players can target you, even those of your faction (according to how Blizzard explained it awhile back)

So there is your penalty system in place, along with the ressurection timer. If you do not like the way it is going, I'd advise you to try a more different game, like Lineage 2, where you can loot other's corpse or stick with Diablo 2, where the hardcore mode has perma death.

huh? your not mentioning the fact that no ones going to waste time to level up a character just to sit at a graveyard and get killed by you.

*kills dumbass* Honorable kill!

*waits 5 mins*

*kills dumbass* Honorable kill!

*waits 5 minutes*

*kills dumbass* Honorable kill!

...

Yep, I can see how this can be abused as opposed to a person killing multiple targets within that 5 mins...