Forum Edicut: PLEASE READFollow

no im not advocating etiquette in the forums at all haha contrary to the message but i did want to get one thing out there:

Once they start the Server forums, i hope we all do what we can to stop them from becoming wat has happened to the FFXI forum. All it is used for is people ******** about eachother; and if an actual post is made of some relivance it gets bled to death by people either critiquing the spelling and gramar of the message, or for NO REASON AT ALL horribly rating down the post, even if its as simple as asking a question. I know people have reasons for this , but WoW is a different breed of players then FFXI. it is more the casual and fun loving type of game, so lets keep it that way.
FFXI is a great game but it has gotten to the point where if u need something asked, better to just spam it in the actual game rather then to ask in a forum, more of a chance of an answer that way. I just hate wat the forums for some of the games on alkazham have become, and hope that since this one has yet to really get rolling, we can do better. ^^ Just please read peoples post with open mind, dont flame notoriously for no good reason. If they say something stupid, sure rate it down, but have the BALLS to post WHY u think its stupid, or wat u think is wrong or offensive about it. There is nothing more frustrating then making a valid point and then gettin spammed with 100s of rate downs cus people disagree or misunderstand it. All you have to do is make a post showing your view, and then wait for a rebuttal. i know this is proably uneeded, but dang, FFXI server forums are as bad as the Asylum now, and thats pretty sad. They used to be a pit of helpfull knowledge and a place for groups to get organized, lets do our best to make the WOW ones that way.

Thanks for listening to my proably sappy sounding msg. Im sure im not conveying my message in the best choice of words, but i think the point is a good one. If your NEW to alakazam belive me, forums can start as anything as simple as ' anyone wnat to help with a quest' and end up with a 40 page rant about why people shouldnt help others cus they need to learn to do it on thier own
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and also, i am well aware the ettiquette is misspelled. i didnt even think of it at the time of the the posting, o well, who cares? you can tell the intended word. I would go back and change it you cannot change thread titles so oh well. The only thing I ever check spelling on is the thread post titles, and was not 100% sure so i just souned it out, wrongly i admit. O well, the word is not even important to the context of the message


----edit--- Added: since this is gettin traversed alot, i want to include maybe a recruitment in here: i have a very popular and strong guil (ls) in ffxi Sylph that i run and am debating on starting one in watever server i join in WoW. im goin to go night elf -- hunter (atleast for starters) if anyoen else lives in the central time zone or may join a server in that zone let me know if you want to get something together. Im by no means a moral person or anything, in the game in the privacy of my ls its dirty jokes and constant laughter, so dont take this post as thinking im uptight heh. *** just so sick as many are of the way some people act****



Edited, Sat Nov 13 20:34:11 2004 by sylphSephirof

Edited, Sat Nov 13 21:16:24 2004 by sylphSephirof

the post above is about the perfect example of wat i meen. i hope that post was a joke. Who honestly cares? you can tell wat word i mean. i dont have the 'auto spell check' on a forum, and i dont care to double check the spelling of a word that is close enough to be readable. i want people readin this post to think of two things:

1) did my spelling errors in ANY way cause the message to be unreadbale or hard to understand?
2) did his reply have ANYTHING worthy of posting? we all know its misspelled, or atleast those english teacher game players who are going over our posts with a red marker drawing little circles and puttin a small SP mark next to it. He couldnt have shown EXACTLY wat i meant any better /sigh

Edited, Sat Nov 13 20:27:50 2004 by sylphSephirof

I agree with Sylph. Who cares if people aren't English majors? They're trying to make a point or ask a question and a lot of the time the only thing people respond to that with is, "Erm.. Go back to grade school please". I don't know if I'm the only one that thinks this way, besides Sylph =), but that is pretty foul. It's like you're making yourself feel superior by saying, "Hah! I am more gramatically correct than this person here and I'm going to show EVERYONE who reads this forum how A+ I am at grammer!". Anyway, from what I've seen this forum has been 95% fantastic about that =). /endrant

Occasional misspellings are one thing. Completely botching a word that is central to your topic - in your topic even - to the point that I can only guess what you're talking about from context - is another. "Edicut" is, maybe, phonetically spelled right. It isn't even close to the right word though. Blame the French if you like. The only time I will nitpick on spelling or grammar, as much as it rankles me to see errors, is when it's a really key error (my professor had a spelling error on a definition the other day, and some people wouldn't have known it was wrong,) or when the person uses all kinds of stupid netspeak abbreviations. (ne1 kno wut im talking about??)


On your topic though, I think one thing that will help a lot is if the WoW forum gets split into two -- a questions forum and a general chat forum. Since a large number of our threads are on the basis of people looking for information, sometimes general and sometimes specific, for those people who like to "blast" them for spamming the forums, it would separate the topics so they don't have to read them. (Yes, a little courtesy could help too.)

I appreciate the spirit this post is in. The volume of posts has increased tremendously since open beta started, and will only get worse on release. There are bound to be a lot of repeat threads and stuff. The only thing I can suggest is to calmly either answer their question succinctly or tell them to read a sticky or something. If someone's making the 87th thread saying how WoW > EQ2 or EQ2 > WoW, just tell them this has been talked to death and *politely* tell them to cross-reference those threads.

I don't think that helped your argument any. To condescending posts, people usually react, well, condescendingly.

sylphSephirof: I think we were all trying to understand where you are comming from. But unfortunatly, your reaction to certain things is kind of negative. You started flamming and bashing people in your third post in the thread. And after reading your first post, it looks like you have some issues with the Sylph server forums over there in FFXI land; and your complaining about it here.



Although that is true, the breed however, is still human. I highly doubt that Allakhazam will open up WoW server forums, but I wouldn't expect anything less on the WoW main forums that goes on over there on other forums (and the last time I checked, not all of their post are muture, informative and insightful).


As far as the spelling and grammar are concerned, I usually overlook most errors (I'm guilty of many errors in my post). However, a large message (such as your first post), might have warrented a quick proof-read to clean it up a little.




Ok, now this is just getting weird.

OK, first of all, I read the first post, and the 'wat' annoyed the **** out of me. Sorry. I can't help it. Acting like an incompetant halfwit makes you look like one, and you can't take someone too lazy to make an extra 'h' in their words seriously.

However, I did read until this point:



Now, this makes no sense, other than you bragging about how much of a 'man' you are by bragging about how you're about to become enebriated and procreate with someone you don't know. First of all, you're a pig. Second of all, this statement makes no sense and is mere bragging. To me, you have lost your credibility completely.

I might add that such posts coming from someone named Sephirof might also not be taken seriously. Proper grammar and spelling is simple, take the extra two seconds it takes to talk properly.

I don't care about one or two spelling errors. I care about imbeciles who say LOL WAT I DO IZ WAT I WANT LOL DRINK AND B PROMISCUOUS.

And that's my two cents.