I played SWG right at release and they had all sorts of flavor of the day things what with nerfing and skill tweaking.
WoW offeres the talent system, and I've been all over the warlock one since thats what I'm planning on doing and I see that some of them are spell specific.
What if you decide you really like a certain spell, pour a bunch of talent poitns into it, then wake up the next day and see they nerfed it to uselessness in a patch? You can't get those talent points back and they pretty much screwed you over big time.
Is anyone else worried about this?
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you can get all your tallent points back. i am not sure where but there is a place you can go to get all your points back. Also i dont think they will be going arround wacking jobs with the nerf bat once retail starts.
They will nerf but over a long period of time and slowly. The easiest way to **** of the players and loose customers is to go on a nerfing spree. They aren'y foolish enough to destroy a class.
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I hope your right, I've seen it before after retail
Bounty Hunters, Brawlers, and smugglers
These were part of the flavor of the month classes for SWG.
If you could find where you can restore talent points, I'd love to know where.
Bounty Hunters, Brawlers, and smugglers
These were part of the flavor of the month classes for SWG.
If you could find where you can restore talent points, I'd love to know where.
Blizzard has a good reputation for nerfing with good intentions, IMHO.
Plus like the above poster said, there is a person in each major city, IRC, that can reset your talent points so you can adjust them.
Plus like the above poster said, there is a person in each major city, IRC, that can reset your talent points so you can adjust them.
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Will there be a way to retrain talent or skill points?
Currently, you can unlearn a skill, but not a talent.
From the WoW main page
Was what had me worried. I wish they would update that FAQ.
Currently, you can unlearn a skill, but not a talent.
From the WoW main page
Was what had me worried. I wish they would update that FAQ.
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Hi there, i only wanted to say that you can get all your talent points back, because i did that whith my Taurent warior yesterday at the top of Thunder Bluff or what the main city is called.
Then i culd pic talents all from scratch.
GL whith your new talent choises :-)
Then i culd pic talents all from scratch.
GL whith your new talent choises :-)
They've said that you will be able to retrain talents, though it won't be as easy as it is now. Currently, they've made it pretty easy to respec talents because they want people testing different combinations-- all you have to do is pay a fee to a trainer and off you go. When the game releases, you'll still be able to retrain talents, but there will be some kind of difficulty involved. That's as specific as they've been.
With regards to specific talents, they're not all spell-specific. In fact, quite a few of them aren't. As an example, I did a quick analysis of the warlock talents. Out of the available talent choices, 22 are specific to one or two spells, 19 are more general (affecting multiple spells are the warlock as a whole), and 9 were just new abilities. However, this analysis is a bit misleading. The spell-specific definition of "one-or-two spells" may not affect your concern. Talents that afffect two spells may still be safe, since the odds are slim that both spells will be nerfed significantly at a single time. More importantly, only about half of the spell-specific talents can be buffed with a full 5 talent points; most of the general talents can.
The upshot: don't worry about it. Even 'losing' talent points as you describe won't hurt your character overmuch. Remember, a lot of these talents are relatively miniscule bonuses-- 5% here, 10% here, and so on. They're meant mostly to promote individuality and certain playstyles, not define whether a character is broken or not.
Finally, I doubt that Blizzard will be making enormous nerfs once the game is released. Tweaks, most probably; Blizzard tweaks relentlessly. But most of the classes that have talents are going into more of a stable period now. (Exception would be the warlock. Hello, Infernal and Felhunter, see you next patch!)
With regards to specific talents, they're not all spell-specific. In fact, quite a few of them aren't. As an example, I did a quick analysis of the warlock talents. Out of the available talent choices, 22 are specific to one or two spells, 19 are more general (affecting multiple spells are the warlock as a whole), and 9 were just new abilities. However, this analysis is a bit misleading. The spell-specific definition of "one-or-two spells" may not affect your concern. Talents that afffect two spells may still be safe, since the odds are slim that both spells will be nerfed significantly at a single time. More importantly, only about half of the spell-specific talents can be buffed with a full 5 talent points; most of the general talents can.
The upshot: don't worry about it. Even 'losing' talent points as you describe won't hurt your character overmuch. Remember, a lot of these talents are relatively miniscule bonuses-- 5% here, 10% here, and so on. They're meant mostly to promote individuality and certain playstyles, not define whether a character is broken or not.
Finally, I doubt that Blizzard will be making enormous nerfs once the game is released. Tweaks, most probably; Blizzard tweaks relentlessly. But most of the classes that have talents are going into more of a stable period now. (Exception would be the warlock. Hello, Infernal and Felhunter, see you next patch!)
the thing is, it dosent matter if your class is nerfed or not. As long as you still can advance through the game decently, its fine.
Its not like FFXI, where SE nerfed Dragoons so badly, and ended up nobody want them in partys, so they can take FOREVER to advance further.
Its not like FFXI, where SE nerfed Dragoons so badly, and ended up nobody want them in partys, so they can take FOREVER to advance further.
Even in the "Stress Test" the NPCs who untrained talent points were there. I KNOW for a fact there was one in the city of Ironforge(since I played Alliance). The NPC even had the word "Talent" in its job title, just don't remember exactly what that title was.
Yeah they're there now but they probably wont come retail, theyve said theyre going to change the ways talents are redistributed.
There will probably be a quest if you need to change your talents for any reason. This is just speculation, but a logical conclusion.
At present, there are "Talent Masters" in cities to reset your talents, and they are a temporary measure for beta only.
I have no idea what Blizzard will do in the long run, but there actually is a noticeable penalty as it stands to retrain considering any abilities granted through talents, that have higher ranks that are trainable, will incur expenses every time you have to relearn them. Respec costs for me are around 5G, so I don't take it too lightly even during beta.
I have no idea what Blizzard will do in the long run, but there actually is a noticeable penalty as it stands to retrain considering any abilities granted through talents, that have higher ranks that are trainable, will incur expenses every time you have to relearn them. Respec costs for me are around 5G, so I don't take it too lightly even during beta.
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