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The Honor/Disshonor system defintely needs some tweeking. There is always a problem with ganking on PvP or PvE servers and it should be discouraged. However the way the system is implemented currently it just doesn't work. It should definitely be more flexable on a PvP server/setting.
Here is a scenareo to consider. Your a lvl 60 wandering through your lands. You hear the noise of battle and rush off to see whats going on. In the distance you see some Enemy killing some of your low level commrads. What do you do? Would it be honorable to rush to their aid and save the day? Or would it disshonorable? Unfortunately with the system as it...if the enemy are lower level as well it pans out to be disshonorable, which is NOT the case. This will indeed pose as a challenge to the Blizzard devs. I have no doubt this system can be made to work, but I also have no doubt it will take lots of time, tweeks, and testing.
I also agree that taking disshonor out of the pvp setting for the PvP servers would be one step in the right direction, but maybe not the proper step. It is true that just because someone isn't rewarded honor for actively seeking out lower levels to slaughter, doesn't mean they aren't being rewarded. People with this "greifing" mindset are rewarded by just what they do. The majority of them don't give a #@#$! about recieveing Honor. Feeling like they are gods cause they kill someone 20 levels lower than them and ruin someone's day is all the reward they need.
But at the same time, I also agree that the risk of being ganked/griefed on a hordcore PvP server should still exist. Its the kind of risk and level of danger people seek when chosing to play on that kind of server. If you don't like it, you play on a PvE server.
Here is a scenareo to consider. Your a lvl 60 wandering through your lands. You hear the noise of battle and rush off to see whats going on. In the distance you see some Enemy killing some of your low level commrads. What do you do? Would it be honorable to rush to their aid and save the day? Or would it disshonorable? Unfortunately with the system as it...if the enemy are lower level as well it pans out to be disshonorable, which is NOT the case. This will indeed pose as a challenge to the Blizzard devs. I have no doubt this system can be made to work, but I also have no doubt it will take lots of time, tweeks, and testing.
I also agree that taking disshonor out of the pvp setting for the PvP servers would be one step in the right direction, but maybe not the proper step. It is true that just because someone isn't rewarded honor for actively seeking out lower levels to slaughter, doesn't mean they aren't being rewarded. People with this "greifing" mindset are rewarded by just what they do. The majority of them don't give a #@#$! about recieveing Honor. Feeling like they are gods cause they kill someone 20 levels lower than them and ruin someone's day is all the reward they need.
But at the same time, I also agree that the risk of being ganked/griefed on a hordcore PvP server should still exist. Its the kind of risk and level of danger people seek when chosing to play on that kind of server. If you don't like it, you play on a PvE server.
This is a quote I've taken from www.worldofwarcraft.com beta forum, now this Honor system is very interesting, I hope they pull it off right, My suggestion? Removing Dishonorable kills -Reason?: Well the above quote for one, I mean I'm not going to help out my TEAM if I have to risk loosing experience and being attackable by my own faction
Other Reason...
This is a MMORPG (RPG= Role Playing Game) and this is World of Warcraft, warcraft is a game in which the enemies do have war with each other =P Now they said that the PvP server is Team Based, because they wanted it to be played like a team, similiar to a sport. Well using the above quote's scenario, you would help out your team right? Well, if it's dishonorable why would you... Well Lets say FootBall for example, the players try to defend the person with the ball so he can either pass it or run with it, his team helps him out
I think that the Dishonorable part is very bad adn shouldn't be put in the PvP server, you are taking the risk of Player vs Player and if you don't want that kind of PvP, you shoul dbe on the PvE server.
Some people said they wouldn't attack lower level enemies if they are friendly, like waving and smiling, well I could understand that and probably would do the same, but this is WARcraft, so lets say your in World War II, if you seen a **** who was smiling and waving, would you decide not to fire at him?
I think there might be some problems with the Honor System, but Blizzard will make it work, I trust em
*Source* - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=444911&P=1
Edited, Sun Oct 17 16:56:50 2004 by GaMeSTa