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#1 Oct 03 2004 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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How is this game compared to FFXI?
#2 Oct 03 2004 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
There have been entirely too many threads on this subject. I hate to say it, but you'll probably be flamed for asking. I'd suggest you scroll through some pages of the forum and see if you can find the thread.

Good Luck.
#3 Oct 03 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Really good, ffxi makes me throw up and die.

if you like to have fun, basically WoW

if you like to not have fun, basically ffxi


edit: not time for flames sry

Edited, Sun Oct 3 12:57:04 2004 by Yolondo
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Yea syntaxic is right I suggest you pack you bags and hide for a while you'll be flamed.
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#6 Oct 03 2004 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I have the beta for this game and I haven't played it in 2~3 months. It's very choppy when you fight, bad music, but the tradeskills are fun like mining. I would play FFXI over this anyday (Oh wait I do!). Just my 2 cents..
#7 Oct 03 2004 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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WTF!!!!!, i can gaurentee you your the ONLY person who will ever choose FFXI over WoW, and to add my two cents, FFxi was horrendis
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#8 Oct 03 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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*Notices that Kojak hasn't played in 2 to 3 months* Personally I wouldn't trust the opinion of someone who hasn't played the game when it recieve its more important patches that expanded on a few things such as various areas, the hunter class, fixing balancing issues and the such. Just my 2 cents..

On a side note, no more FFXI vs WoW threads. For every FFXI vs WoW thread created, baby tauren is thrown off a cliff and into a river. Think about the baby taurens!

Edited, Sun Oct 3 19:16:39 2004 by Redmoonxl
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#9 Oct 03 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Double posts make baby taurens cry ;_;

Edited, Sun Oct 3 19:07:07 2004 by Redmoonxl
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#10 Oct 03 2004 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Baby Mithra's*

(Just so WoW is not affected, however.. then everyone would make FFXI vs WoW threads.. dammit..)

Anyways..

WoW - Amazing.
FFXI -
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#11 Oct 03 2004 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok people here's the truth of the games.

FFXI- Good game although your never rewarded with anything, sure theres super cool equipment but then you realize you MUST have that super cool equipment to be able to even be decent in a party at higher levels. Very hardcore player friendly.



WoW- Very friendly to everyone else. Not as much of a perfect character build game every race can do any of its available jobs well. etc etc blah blah (sorry i get lazy)
#12 Oct 03 2004 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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#13 Oct 03 2004 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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I haven't even played any of the betas and even I know how much the game has gotten better in 2-3 months.
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#14 Oct 03 2004 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
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If you want to waste your time not having fun 80% of the time, then FFXI is better. ^^


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#15 Oct 03 2004 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Still no beta Seoman? They have something against you.
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#16 Oct 04 2004 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I have the beta for this game and I haven't played it in 2~3 months.


Can I have your beta account? :)
#17 Oct 04 2004 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Bet ya he doesn't have a beta account and is just here to troll ;P
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#18 Oct 04 2004 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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#19 Oct 04 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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From FAQ thread...

Which is better, WoW or FFXI?

WoW is better unless you...
want to change your character class constantly.
want a game that forces you to party and can never solo.
want a game that takes you a good 100 days of played time to come close to the level cap.

If that answer is too simplistic, or you want to argue the point, there are ample WoW vs. FFXI threads in the forum.
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#20 Oct 04 2004 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I think threads should be locked if they're comparing games to World of Warcraft. It bothers me alot when people always want to buy new games but want the same things from other games in them.
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#21 Oct 04 2004 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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It depends. They might just be looking for a basis of comparison so they know whether they might like the game so they can decide whether or not to buy it. If you told me to buy some new game I had never heard of, of course I'm going to ask you to compare it to *something*. The only reason WoW gets compared to FFXI and not, say, Mike Tyson's Punch-out, is because the game doesn't resemble Punch-out in the slightest.

However, if they are comparing it for the purposes of nitpicking, then yes I agree. People should not try to make the game what they just came from. What I find ironic is that most people that do that are complaining that WoW doesn't have some annoying aspect of their game that they elsewhere will say they don't like. (Painstakingly slow leveling with heavy group dependency, for example.)
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#22 Oct 04 2004 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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They shoudln't need any basic comparison because they should just read the main site and not fustrate beta testers that are trying to answer useful questions. If I tell you to buy a game the first thing ever should do is look it up and gather all info about it to see if that's what your looking for.
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#23 Oct 04 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Good
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Gihja wrote:
They shoudln't need any basic comparison because they should just read the main site and not fustrate beta testers that are trying to answer useful questions. If I tell you to buy a game the first thing ever should do is look it up and gather all info about it to see if that's what your looking for.


Yes, that's the first thing.

The second thing is to get a comparasion from someone that has played both games.

Unless you spend the money to buy and play the 2nd game, the only way to find out our Game #2 compares to Game #1 is to ask someone that has played both for their comparasions.

You can't really tell if you're going to like the game by reading about it on the main site in articles and information supplied by the publisher/developer. You need to hear from people that have actually played both games so they can compare the features of both.

Then, you process that information and make your decision.

No one can tell you if you're going to like it or not, but you can use other people's opinions to help forumulate yours.

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Personally, I want to hear about how former FFXI players like WoW. There are some things reading about the game wont' tell you, you need to learn from players. For instance, FFXI's main site won't tell you anything about the partying problems/issues. The only ways you'd find that out are 1) spending the money and learning the hard way or 2) hearing from other players.

Edited, Mon Oct 4 18:05:40 2004 by SeomanP
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#24 Oct 04 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I played ffxi for a while,and the partying makes you go crazy.I mean 1 out of 100 parties are good with experienced and fun players.While the other paries are full of jackasses and/or don't know how to play.Of course why are you listening to me? I played ffxi for a half a year and got my highest lvl to 18.



The thing that attracted me to WoW was that you fought different monsters and that a same lvl warrior might have different armor. In ffxi you fought the same monster till 75 and I saw a rdm lvl 45 that had armor that looked like it was lvl 12.I hope WoW has at least a little bit of story in it (I couldn't get high enough of a lvl to be in the cool ffxi missions)

Edited, Mon Oct 4 19:01:07 2004 by kikyuras
#25 Oct 04 2004 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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well i only played WoW for one day but... i loved it it was awesome you see as far as i can tell WoW is a great game for just about anyone while FFXI is a game for Hard core players and sadly there are no rewards for high lvls (except the lucky white mages and black mages with there warp and teleports) sadly i love challenges yet loved Warcraft and i love both there story lines but i can only afford one i cant decide ; ;
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#26 Oct 04 2004 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I liked FFXI alot. But there are certain elements in the game which makes the game alittle unenjoyable. FFXI is really meant for people who can wait in Jeuno for an EXP party to be assembled.

In Worlds of Warcraft you can solo exp, share quest and go on raids. I loved the stress test and that simple week has made me a converter. I already pre-ordered the collectors edition of Worlds of Warcraft :P Just like I pre-ordered the Warcraft III collectors edition :P Blizzard so far has never let me done in quality and in game play. So far it's been one week. It's been close to a year before I started to get tired of FFXI alittle. So maybe in one years time my attitude will be different when I start playing Worlds of Warcraft :P

#27 Oct 05 2004 at 3:11 AM Rating: Decent
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exactly how long does it take to wait for partys in ffxi?

and if i play WoW, i will be a paladin, wielding a katana. Will people not want to party with me just because im not using the MOST SUITABLE weapon for a paladin, or i have lots of freedom in choosing what weapons and class i want?
#28 Oct 05 2004 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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It was interesting to hear your views on FFXI. Yes it is hard, yes you have to be hardcore, but the rewards are ample. After you build your character up on your server you get recognition, people send you constant party and quest invites, join a linkshell and basically there isn't a spare moment. I had a friend that is an avid gamer start FFXI with me and we played through the lower levels (which are difficult, especially without a subjob) but he quit. Since then I kept going and the game reeally became awesome. And when he checks in he's like "wow, you made it how far?". At any rate, FFXI is a great game to play.

I have heard from my clan that WoW is a bit more user friendly and allows more soloing and different ways to progress through the game. I can't wait to see it. I think that the market is big enough for both.

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#29 Oct 05 2004 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I responded to your post on the FFXI boards but I'll respond here as well. I've never been able to get into the beta tests. But I do know what I don't like about FFXI and, from these boards and reviews on sites like Gamespy, how I think WoW is going to be different.

1. LFG for hours.

....actually, that is my biggest complaint. After lvl 18 or so it becomes almost impossible to solo for exp. So you have to join or start a pty. But parties in FFXI have to fit a very strict mold to be successful. From what I've heard about WoW almost any combination of classes will work for a group since you're trying to complete a task as opposed to camps a string of mobs.

The other complaints are less irritating. Monster models never change in FFXI. A crab at lvl 60 looks the same as the crabs you fought at lvl 7. And armor retains the same look as well with only stats changing. A level 35 robe looks the same as a level 5 robe. No wonder people are so excited about AF...it's something different for them to wear.

But to be fair these are just aesthetic issues. Some people really don't like the graphics for WoW...but in the end it's all just a matter of opion. I personally have found that I just don't have the amount of time that is required to be successful in FFXI.

And as a side note...Blizzard supports Mac. SE doesn't. I have a PC desktop and a Powerbook laptop. My wife and I can play WoW together. We have to take turns on the PC with FFXI.
#30 Oct 05 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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A katana? As in a Japanese long sword? I wish you luck finding one.

That aside, your choice of weapon is probably irrelevant to your group. They'll assume you're doing a good job of equipping yourself. Paladins can use 1- and 2-handed swords, 1- and 2-handed maces (the latter being the Warcraft paladin's "traditional" weapon), and 2-handed axes. There seems to be no shortage of any of these items-- many drop, many more are quest rewards, and there's always a bunch of blacksmiths. As a rule, there's not a tremendous difference amongst the weapon types. Paladins are very gear-dependent, but there's alot out there they can use. There just doesn't seem to be a problem for choosing what particular weapon you want.

Unless you like polearms or fist weapons... then you have a problem.
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#31 Oct 05 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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I played FFXI for 4 months
I haven't played WoW at all
And I'm already going to have to say WoW >>>> FFXI

I didn't enjoy FFXI much, it had a nice community (not saying WoW won't) but, I like to solo when I want, in FFXI you are required to part to gain any experience past level 10 (Well, basically, unless your a beastmaster) and the parties in FFXI are all basically within 2 levels of each other (Other wise you won't get as good exp) such as Lv 20-22, or 34-36, but there are lots of people to party with. Also one of the main reasons I quit is because after about level 40 you need a static party to level up, and I didn't have time to have one. And unless your a White Mage or Red Mage, you might spend alot of time looking for parties in FFXI...

I'm hoping WoW is more closer to EQ than FFXI

Ex-EQ Lover, actaully I was considering going back to EQ today until WOW comes out =\
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#32 Oct 05 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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OMG no way don't touch the EQ cd's!!!!!!!
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#33 Oct 06 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Bet ya he doesn't have a beta account and is just here to troll ;P



Oh I don't? Here's some proof buddy. You guys are flaming on an OPINION THREAD. I still play FFXI and I like it more than WoW. I have had several friends quit WoW...

Here is the proof...:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/Kojak88/proof.jpg

Now please quit flaming my OPINION!

Edit: Also I have some cool pictures on my photobucket site, check them out from in-game!

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#34 Oct 06 2004 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's some proof buddy. You guys are flaming on an OPINION THREAD.


That's proof...how?
(Yes, the pic that ensues could be.)


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I still play FFXI and I like it more than WoW. I have had several friends quit WoW...


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#35 Oct 06 2004 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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TheKojak wrote:
I have the beta for this game and I haven't played it in 2~3 months. It's very choppy when you fight, bad music, but the tradeskills are fun like mining. I would play FFXI over this anyday (Oh wait I do!). Just my 2 cents..


This is why your opinion is being flamed.

You're basing it on information 2-3 months old.

Try it again, then come back and post.
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#36 Oct 06 2004 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I find it funny he's basing his opinions on a very old beta compared to a game thats been running for about 2-3 years. Thats like me going you know i like my fully built car better than those tires over there.
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Why don't you post your opinion on the FFXI boards maybe they care.
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#38 Oct 06 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I find it funny on the FF boards that SE can do no wrong and if you try to make any criticism of them then your instantly flamed. Trust me, if blizzard makes some feature or something that is really bad im gonna be one of the first people saying it needs to be fixed. But also im not a whiny baby like all the people on the beta boards who complain when things dont go their way. Hmmm this whole post could've been summed up in this one sentence. I give constructive criticism :P
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arimer wrote:
I find it funny on the FF boards that SE can do no wrong and if you try to make any criticism of them then your instantly flamed. Trust me, if blizzard makes some feature or something that is really bad im gonna be one of the first people saying it needs to be fixed. But also im not a whiny baby like all the people on the beta boards who complain when things dont go their way. Hmmm this whole post could've been summed up in this one sentence. I give constructive criticism :P


Yeah right..you should really pop into the WoW official forums. People who criticize the game will immediately get flame/bash by others..
#40 Oct 07 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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People complain constantly on those boards and get flamed. People praise the game and get flamed. The only real constant is getting flamed. It really isn't indicative of a post unless you get REALLY flamed on the Blizz boards.

For people who say the game is SOO different from 2-3 months ago, I'd disagree. The game isn't so monumentally different that someone can say they didn't like the overall feel of the game. I only played my EQ2 beta character to level 8 and I could already tell I didn't like the game. I doubt so much is going to change before Sony releases the game that will invalidate my opinion, considering most of my beefs are with the core engine and game design. Similarly, if someone didn't like that with WoW, I have to respect that opinion. I might not respect their opinion that FFXI is better =p, but you know what they say about opinions -- everybody's got one.

Edited, Thu Oct 7 14:20:17 2004 by Azuarc
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#41 Oct 07 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Azuarc much has changed in 3 months.

-Talents
-50-60 zones
-level cap to 60
-tradeskills
-weapons and armor added
-Classes Nurfs(Mages were the best class 3 months ago)

Overall game is very different because now you get to experience much more than before. Many people basing there opinions 3 months ago haven't even played the game past 40, 3 months ago many classes didn't have talents. So the opinion on the game is not worth listening to unless they experienced everything the game has to offer.
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#42 Oct 07 2004 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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So the opinion on the game is not worth listening to unless they experienced everything the game has to offer.



Yes....and no.
#43 Oct 07 2004 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
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expand on the no.
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#44 Oct 07 2004 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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seems to me thats how it is because whenever someone says FF is bad the FF people always say well you gotta get to lvl 50 before its fun. So wouldnt that be negating their opinion until they have experienced almost everything it has to offer?
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