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#1 Oct 02 2004 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
Which class do you seem to want to be most right now. I've almost changed my mind completely and I'm thinking of making a shaman first then a warrior. What are the classes that you probably will make in release?
These are mine:


Troll Shaman
Troll Warrior
Troll Hunter
#2 Oct 02 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
Nice choices - the classes/races I will be making are most likely as follows:

Undead Rogue
Undead Mage
Undead Priest
#3 Oct 02 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
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Night Elf Hunter
Human Rogue
Dwarf Paladin
#4 Oct 02 2004 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be running 2 accounts at the same time, and the main classes of the two accounts will be:

Night Elf Hunter
Human Paladin

I think the two classes will work well together. A Dwarf Paladin might be a little more practical than a Human, but I've never been a big fan of Dwarves.

Some might prefer a Warrior, Priest combo, but I think the duo I picked will have better DPS. I could be wrong though, we'll know in time.

Edited for spelling.

Edited, Sat Oct 2 18:07:03 2004 by KerikDaven
#5 Oct 02 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
Kerik - You're going to be playing 2 accounts, with 1 character on each account on two computers? o.O

The way you made it seem with the priest/ warrior "duo" and how you said they'd have better DPS..
#6 Oct 02 2004 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Multi-boxing is the term, I believe.

You'd be surprised how many people do that.

If you can pull it off, great way to get exp without partying. Take your two characters out, the warrior does all the work, the healer keeps the warrior going.
#7 Oct 02 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
im going to be a troll hunter.....thats it
#8 Oct 02 2004 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
shaman
warrior
rogue
maybe warlock

dont care about races 1 will be UD tho for my guild
#9 Oct 02 2004 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
I also can't really decide on races yet i'm not making final decisions till release but anyways.

Hunter- Orc, Troll
Rogue- Orc, Troll
Warrior- Undead, Orc, Troll
Shaman-Orc, Troll

Im relying on Character Creation screen and talents for my final decision.
Funny thing is I never had much trouble picking what to be in SWG I just picked BH right when I looked at the box.

Edited, Sat Oct 2 22:40:55 2004 by Gihja
#10 Oct 02 2004 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yes Creamed, just as you described. I have 2 complete computer systems side-by-side which I use for this.

As Seoman said, multi-boxing is a good enough description. In Everquest we called it 2-boxing. In EQ though I would also 3-box. Still only 2 computers, but 3 accounts. Two of the accounts were in windowed mode on the better of the two systems, thanks to EQWindows, and the third account was on the other computer.

Ever when 3-boxing though I was really just focused on 2 of the accounts. The third account was more for buffs.

In one of my guilds we had a person that 5-boxed on 2 computers. I wouldn't even want to try that one, 2 accounts are hard enough. Needless to say he had relatively frequent disconnects. :P

My purpose in WoW for doing this was that in the Stress Test, I saw that in the later teen levels, the quests became very difficult to solo unless you were a little higher level than the quest. Having had just one extra person made a HUGE impact in the ability to complete a quest you couldn't have done alone without waiting for a few levels.
#11 Oct 03 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Undead or Human Mage. I need to see the racial traits when they get implemented to help me decide.
#12 Oct 03 2004 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
Hunter or Paladin. Shamans look cool, but I don't want to be on the horde side. :)
#13 Oct 03 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Night Elf Druid
Tauren Warrior
Orc Warlock
#14 Oct 03 2004 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Night Elf Hunter
Gnome Warlock
and maybe a undead rogue
#15 Oct 03 2004 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
Kerik - Nice idea on the multibox, I wish I had 2 computers side-by-side, but then again, I am only 14. :).

However, I had no problems with the elitest of the elite quests, just get 4 other people to go with you, and you're set. Plus, playing 2 characters at once = split exp, due to, it's not gonna be really easy to control both at once, and take more time than just controlling one, and have a party of 4.

You're choice - you seemed experienced in multi-boxing, good luck to you! ;)
#16 Oct 03 2004 at 11:30 PM Rating: Good
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A little tip for 2-boxing....

If you can make macros, DO. Nothing meant for cheating, but things that make you pick your other duo-partner and then assist, or other functions that cut-down on you needing to pay too much attention to the keyboard.

I haven't seen anything during the Stress Test that showed that we could make macros, so it's very likely I'll be making my own with my Gravis Gamepad. I'll also be assigning movement keys to the D-Pad. A gamepad can be a lot easier to deal with than another keyboard.

As far as splitting experience is concerned though.... I think of it this way: 1) I'm working on TWO characters at the same time so that's kind of time efficient. 2) They will get some form of grouping bonus for experience so that make it even more efficient. 3) I'll be able to kill critters faster, and/or kill tougher critters which will make for better experience over time.

While you are correct that it isn't as easy as playing a single character, I do feel you can be more effective than a single character could be. Can it be done as well as TWO people playing a character each? That depends on the skill of the 2-boxer. 95% of the time I'd say the 2-boxer is at a little disadvantage.

One big tip I would give to anyone playing more than one account is this:

One of the two characters should be a class that doesn't have to run around and follow the creature to do its damage. That character will be on your secondary computer and usually rely on using /assist for targeting. It's too hard to have 2 accounts each having to chase a critter. For me, this character will be the Hunter. The Hunter does their damage at a distance and usually doesn't need to run around much during a fight. For this role spellcasters are also good to use.
#17 Oct 04 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
Macros remind me of how stupid hologrinding is.
#18 Oct 04 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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To OP:
Night Elf/Human Priest
NE Hunter
Tauren Shaman

Not sure of the order.


Kerik:
I think you're going to have a lot more trouble two-boxing in WoW, and find it a lot less fruitful than in EQ. Probably more trouble than it's worth if your goal is just to exp. The only real benefit imho is if you're trying to farm. The person that got me my account ended up with one of the other guild members quitting and giving the account info back to him, so he was two-boxing using that account, and the only thing it really did for us was let us complete quests above our level with the aid of his main. That just dug a deeper and deeper hole with what quests we could do though, because we were getting virtually no kill exp. My experience has been, when partnering with someone of the same level, I'd much rather have a real breathing person. You might be able to pull it off with a paladin considering they do next to nothing anyway, but they won't be much contribution to DPS.

However, you can macro. The capabilities in the game are extremely limited, but if you type /macro, you can basically create a five-line set of commands to follow. The unfortunate thing is there is no pause command, and the game tries to perform them effectively all at once, so you cannot make any macros that are sequences of activities. You could however make a macro to /tar OtherChar; /assist; /cast Holy Strike(rank 4); /attack
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#19 Oct 04 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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An Orc shaman will probably be my main, but part of it depends on which factions are more popular. Either a human or troll priest, depending on how many people there are (I'll choose the less-populated one); ditto with a druid, either NE or Tauren depending on which is more popular (again, I'd choose the less-chosen one). Three characters will be more than enough for me to handle, thank you :).
#20 Oct 04 2004 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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Just out of curiousity Chah, why are you choosing based on popularity of faction?
#21 Oct 04 2004 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the info Azuarc.

As far as pauses, I can set the gamepad to do that. With the duo I picked, I expect the Hunter and pet to be the main DPS, anything the Paladin adds is just a bonus. The Paladin is basically my meat-shield. As long as it can hold aggro and take damage, that's about all I want it for. That and the heals. I know it's not the BEST healer, but good enough for my purposes.

As far as the experience, we'll have to see how that goes. All in time I guess. The other bonus though, aside from taking on tougher critters, is having another character with a collection tradeskill. My Hunter will have Skinning and the Paladin will be mining.
#22 Oct 04 2004 at 11:02 PM Rating: Decent
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You could just let your pet tank. It's probably a better tank than the paladin under most situations. This is assuming that they never implement anything further with pets to give them special abilities or differentiate between pet types, which of course they will, but the only things you're really getting from a paladin imho is two heals and an aura. If you want to get slightly more involved, and anyone that uses a Gravis to set up macros probably would, I suppose seal of salvation can help keep aggro off your hunter, but not being a two-boxer myself, I'm not really sure how much more help that can be to you.

And quite honestly, I don't want to see people two-boxing. Blizzard has managed to keep the action pace high enough that most players are not going to keep up with controlling two-characters. I realize there were some people that could three- and four-box, and those people might be able to multi in WoW, but I always felt like it was defying the game to do something like that. (Just MHO.)
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#23 Oct 05 2004 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I have my reasons, Seoman. You see, in my experience, people typically choose a faction for one of three reasons.
1) One faction is perceived as being more powerful than the others. Power-gamers and the immature flock to this one.
2) One faction has more people than the other; more people join so that they'll be able to more easily find help. This is especially important (and prevalent) in PvP, where numbers really matter. This reason is the guiding light of sheep, twinks, and gankers, and was obvious during the huge surge of Alliance players during the notorious Hillsbrad gank-fest.
3) People prefer a given class or race and will play it regardless of other factors because they enjoy being what they are. THESE are the people I want to group with-- they are typically more polite, more fun, and less stressful to deal with. They are also in the minority. (Ironically, they also include some of the most skilled players in the game.)

Power-gamers, the immature, sheep, twinks, and gankers annoy me. Most of them will also choose their faction based on reasons 1 or 2. Thus, most of them will end up together in one faction or the other. By choosing the minority faction, I'll end up playing with the fun people more often.
#24 Oct 05 2004 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, makes sense.

I fall in #3.

Just never thought that someone would ever choose to play a race/job because of popularity. That's always seemed... silly.. to me.

I can see people playing a popular area to get a feel for the game, having alot of people around would make it easier to get into the game quicker, but then switch to the real race/class you want.
#25 Oct 05 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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"Just never thought that someone would ever choose to play a race/job because of popularity. That's always seemed... silly.. to me."

That's because most people who do so have the wrong reasons. :) I'm a nice guy (notice all my classes are healers), and as you saw I had certain race/class combinations I wanted to do... which precisely I'll do depends on which factions are more popular, not which races or classes. Like I said, my real motivation is trying to find people who are more fun, and I figure they're the people who DON'T swarm the popular faction.
#26 Oct 05 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
There's one huge downside to joining the Horde on the PvP server. 1. You get 400 less quests, This is a fact because someone in game did the math. 2. The zones where you get quests ***** the Horde over because almost all there quests in the 30s are in TM and the Notorious Hillsbrad. Will this probably stop me from playing the Horde no, but does it bother me yes it does. I'm sure many are more sensitive to this issue.
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