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#1 May 07 2011 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
I'm usually very level headed and will listen to both sides atleast. But after reading letter from Mr. Stringer I think bit of venting is in order. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/a-letter-from-howard-stringer/

In the brief was the usual apology and *** covering I expected until I got to this part:

"In the last few months, Sony has faced a terrible earthquake and tsunami in Japan. But now we are facing a very man-made event – a criminal attack on us — and on you — and we are working with the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the world to apprehend those responsible"

Now I have all the sympathy and support in the world for the people in Japan for the devistation and pain they went and still are going through. But hey Stringer what does that have to do with you, your team or SOE in California? Trying to get sympathy from an unrelated tragidy that cost more than just money but in real loss of life and peoples livelyhood is a tatic even beneath SOE. Or so I thought.


Here's a scenorio for you. I go on vaction and don't stop my mail, leave off my lights off and hide the door key under the welcome mat. When I come back I found I've been robbed! What do you think the police will tell me? These things happen and pat my shoulder telling me I couldn't expect to be robbed and it's ok. I doubt it! You knew that Anonomyous had you in their cross hairs and you did what? Nothing. Not even a routine security reveiw that would of found alot of your weaknesses. Well the money you saved by not protection your network will have to cover your costs now. Which is probably going to be more than your profits since SOE was formed. Good choice guys.


How about really owning up to SOE neglect in this matter, not only in your security pratices but in that joke you call public relations? How about you annoucing you'll be down over the weekend Friday morning instead of late in the evening? I'm betting that there was no way you would be done by Friday and I'll bet that was known when you dangled out the carrot for people to nibble on.

I hope that a decent company like Blizzard or Activision buys up the eq rights and takes it over. And maybe your management team will get jobs pouring coffee, dumping trash and scrubbing the toilets. Which is even above your moral standards.

Now my wife and I are going to have a picnic on the lake and sip some wine. It's to beautiful of day to let SOE spoil it.

Thanks for putting up with the rant.
#2 May 07 2011 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Yay, another rant from someone completely ignorant on both the situation and the subject matter.

No way could SOE in Cali have direct connections with Sony in Japan, not possible. No way could they be understaffed because of a major earthquake and tsunami at their corporate headquarters. No way could services between the two offices be compromised because of the earthquake and tsunami. No way would any service have to be rerouted or changed leading to a potentially less secure connection without them knowing their was a vulnerability. No way could a major system have undisclosed vulnerabilities that could be potentially exploited by a professional hacker. No way could things like this happen every day. No way could a major security company like RSA have been hacked just a few short months ago, didn't happen. No way could a security audit miss a potential vulnerability. No way could a company bust their *** to try and get things up and running and hope to have them running by a specific point only to miss that deadline and not have things up by the weekend like they hoped. No way could I be bothered to educate myself on how these things work or what really happens when a system gets hacked. No way could I be bothered to actually figure out how network security actually works. No way could I be bothered to educate myself in how a digital forensics investigation actually works. No way could I be bothered to take two seconds and figure out that this breech and the Anonymous DDoS attack are actually two separate things.

People, please. If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, please stop, take a minute to educate yourself on the systems and services you use. Maybe you'll prevent yourself from looking like the OP.

Computer networks are extremely complex things and no system can be 100% secure, it's impossible. Also keep in mind that the concept of security directly contradicts the concept of accessibility. Think about the alternative before you start complaining about wanting stricter security measures. Do you really want a half-hour long authentication process every time you log in?
#3 May 07 2011 at 7:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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SOE did this because they knew I was thinking about logging on this weekend. Those bastards.
#4 May 09 2011 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I think they should close down every online games company, just in case they get hacked.

To be fair, it could have been handled better. As soon as the FBI got involved, it was obvious the downtime was going to last weeks (I'm writing this at end of the first week :)) - and SOE could have let you know sooner. It's also pretty inexcusable that any system issue or update takes out all the SOE websites, which is exactly where all those players that can't play want to look - good for Zam though :)
#5 May 14 2011 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
I agree with Kreeto, also I'd like to add that Anonymous probably had nothing to do with it, the hacker/hackers are using it as an extremley convinient cover-up. I do believe that if Anonymous didn't attack sony this might not have happened though.
#6 May 14 2011 at 3:41 AM Rating: Decent
Raolan wrote:

Computer networks are extremely complex things and no system can be 100% secure, it's impossible. Also keep in mind that the concept of security directly contradicts the concept of accessibility. Think about the alternative before you start complaining about wanting stricter security measures. Do you really want a half-hour long authentication process every time you log in?


I'm not expecting sony to have World of Warcraft level security anyways,but yes, even wow does have security problems, but at least it's on the end user side and even then the means of breaching an account are extremley ineffective and complex and are only possible when people blatantly ignore basic security meassures. The WoW servers are nearly impossible to hack though you're right about networks being complex and they all have security flaws but keeping those secret is part of it. Also, to hack a server like say wow for example you would need very specific knowlege and their security firm would be right on your ***...like I said it would be nearly impossible.



Kreeto wrote:


I hope that a decent company like Blizzard or Activision buys up the eq rights and takes it over. And maybe your management team will get jobs pouring coffee, dumping trash and scrubbing the toilets. Which is even above your moral standards.


I honestly hope you're joking, they would RUIN the game....on account that everyone knows that many EQ players don't like WoW you're probably trolling, but honestly do you WANT to pay for every expansion pack seperatley? and do you WANT them to dumb the game down so 12 year olds will find it fun to play?

jval2529 wrote:
I agree with Kreeto, also I'd like to add that Anonymous probably had nothing to do with it, the hacker/hackers are using it as an extremley convinient cover-up. I do believe that if Anonymous didn't attack sony this might not have happened though.


I meant I agree with Raolan, sorry.

Edited, May 14th 2011 5:44am by jval2529
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