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#1 Dec 21 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a more technical question. I was on the site, Can you run it? and I meet the minimum with 1.9gb of RAM on Vista and my Nvidia GEForce 8600gt video card, but I fall short of the recommended for both. Will this be a big issue and is there a way to resolve it? I am looking into if my computer can handle more RAM, but I believe the video card I have is the best my computer can handle without a power supply upgrade. I am on an emachines T5246, any help would be great, thank you.
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#2 Dec 21 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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SilentNightKitsune wrote:
I have a more technical question. I was on the site, Can you run it? and I meet the minimum with 1.9gb of RAM on Vista and my Nvidia GEForce 8600gt video card, but I fall short of the recommended for both. Will this be a big issue and is there a way to resolve it? I am looking into if my computer can handle more RAM, but I believe the video card I have is the best my computer can handle without a power supply upgrade. I am on an emachines T5246, any help would be great, thank you.

If you meet the minimum specs you should be fine, but you'll likely have to run your graphics at lower quality.
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An 8600 is a fine video card! You really really need more memory though if at all possible. I wouldn't play EQ2 on Vista without at least 4GB ram.
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#4 Dec 21 2010 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Why not less than 4gb?
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#5 Dec 21 2010 at 10:31 PM Rating: Good
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Why not less than 4gb?


A: because Vista is a memory pig and will use most of what you have just to run the OS and

B: because the EQ2 architecture likes to off-load things like texture maps and other memory intensive video stuff and store them in ram instead of clogging up your video card with them.
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#6 Dec 21 2010 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
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So would it be useless to run it on the ram I already have? I am looking into the 4gb.
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#7 Dec 22 2010 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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So would it be useless to run it on the ram I already have?

You will see rather poor performance, and you will get horrendously long zoning times. I have 4GB RAM at the moment, and am thinking of doubling that :) My previous PC only had 2GB (with 8600GT)

Best performance mainly comes from:
- Plenty of RAM
- High CPU speed (EQ2 is mostly single threaded - slower, multi-core CPUs don't help much)
- Decent graphics card
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#8 Dec 22 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I just talked to tech support and they say there is no way to upgrade past the ram I have, is there anything I can do to increase the performance? I really want to play the game. Oh, and what are zoning times?

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SilentNightKitsune wrote:
I just talked to tech support and they say there is no way to upgrade past the ram I have, is there anything I can do to increase the performance? I really want to play the game. Oh, and what are zoning times?

Generally speaking, if your RAM cannot be upgraded it's likely because your motherboard is not compatible with having more RAM then it already does. Upgrading computers turns into a nasty spiral pretty quick with how much things have changed over the years. That said, I ran EQ2 originally on 1GB of RAM then later on 2GB of RAM for quite a while, though the difference for me was that I was using Win XP. Like said above, you'll still be able to run the game, but certain graphic intense places can make you lag and yeah, your zoning times may be increased.

Zoning times refers to the amount of time it takes to load a zone when you're traveling. The game is not a seamless world, to go to a different area (which is called zones) you have to load into the new zone after you take a travel bell, or click on a door, or hit the zone line, depending how it can be traveled to. So if you started in Frostfang Sea and wanted to move on to Butcherblock Mountains, the computer load time between those two places would be your zoning time.

Hope that makes sense. :)
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Would the lag be bad enough that if I was doing something with a group, like a dungeon, it would affect it too much? Would it be better to change to a different os? Would it just be easier to switch over to XP?

Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 9:35am by SilentNightKitsune
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Would the lag be bad enough that if I was doing something with a group, like a dungeon, it would affect it too much? Would it be better to change to a different os? Would it just be easier to switch over to XP?

I'd suggest trying it out first and seeing how it is before dunking money into computer changes. It's possible that it could run smooth enough that you may have nothing to worry about. Smiley: smile
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Amen to that lol, that's what I am hoping for. I really want this to work out, I am so sick of WoW. There is only so many times you can make a toon and go through the same areas, even with the changes, I never was able to get myself excited enough to get one past level 40.
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So I finally got the game, and it runs very well, even on my 1920x1080 screen, full screen I was surprised, thank you for all the help.
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So I finally got the game, and it runs very well, even on my 1920x1080 screen, full screen I was surprised, thank you for all the help.


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As others have already been very helpful, I don't have much to add. However, your experience with the game will be much different if you ever do get the chance to play with better hardware (stating the obvious, I know...). I originally started playing EQ2 with a system that sported 2gb of ram or less. I have since upgraded (2) years ago to a system with 4gb and an 8800 GTX graphics card. While I can generally play the game on the balanced setting at a steady fps, I do experience some lag and stutters every now and then. I have placed the graphic settings at Ultra once, albeit, only to take a sneak peak of the potential beauty the game can offer... And, is it ever different! Based on this experience, I would like to ask, what kind of rig would I need to be able to sustain playable fps in the general areas of Norrath? I will be purchasing a new computer soon, and am weighing in on my options. I only play World of Warcraft and Everquest 2, and the only upcoming mmo that has me curious is Rift.
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It will be difficult to play the game on the highest settings most likely. When they first made the game, they were operating on the assumption that processors would continue to get faster and faster. Well that never happened, they are about the same speed only 2-4 cores now. Once SOE realized this they tried to modify the game engine to utilize multi-core machines, but it's still not that great. And now they are trying to make the game less CPU dependent and more GPU dependent, but that's still a work in progress.

I built my machine a year ago and it's no powerhorse by any means. I'm running Win 7 with 5 gigs of RAM and a 1 gig Radeon (can't remember the series now, I'm at work, 8500 maybe?) and I do ok. I'm on balanced setting with some tweaks.
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Yeah, I know it's a game that is difficult to run at the best settings due to the initial design like you mentioned. I have done a little research into some builds people have used to play on high graphic settings, and from what I've read, the closer to 4.0 ghz you get, the better. Based on this, I am curious to see how well the I7 processors would run Everquest 2, as they have the built-in speed boost technology. What cpu does your build have Nadenu?

While it is not a huge deal that I am unable to run on max settings, it does leave me frustrated knowing that I am missing out from an almost entirely different experience with Everquest 2. I have played the game off and on since 2005 and love the rich lore and deep content it offers. I just would love to experience it to its full capacity, and am determined to do so!

This is the cheap alternative new pc I was looking at:

Gateway FX6840-15e

-Intel Core I7, 2.93GHz (up to 3.6GHz with turbo boost)
-ATI Radeon HD 5750
-8GB of DDR3 RAM
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

This is listed at $999, so it would be the cheapest computer upgrade that I am considering (I was also thinking about saving up a bit and waiting to get a custom build from digital storm at double the price for an even better rig). However, with the gateway I would have a few things I would want to upgrade upon purchase...The power supply is the bare minimum to run this machine (only 450) as I would like a better graphics card than what this offers, albeit would be more than enough to handle the games I play.
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#18 Jan 02 2011 at 6:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can run the game on highest quality, though I custom tweaked it some to turn off shadows and extraneous flora, but that's mainly because my eyesight is so shoddy that things like that give me headaches. I also don't use Shader 3.0, though when I tried it it ran fine, there's just too many bugs with it still to bother with.

Here's what I have, most pieces were purchased in 2009 (video card in early 2010):

-AMD Phenom II Quad Core processor (~3.2GHz)
-6GB DDR3 RAM
-ATI Radeon HD 4870 (1GB)
-Windows XP Professional 64-Bit

The motherboard, processor and 4GB of the memory (already had a 2GB stick prior) ran me $200, the video card at the time was another $120ish. I think the power supply was about $80 and I also ended up getting a new case because my old one had bad ventilation, which was just over $100. My monitor I got 2-3 years ago for about $175ish, but they're much cheaper now. The OS I got through the college my hubby works at for free. So that's about $700 for everything except the keyboard, mouse and OS, rounding up, though we did build it ourselves.

If you're thinking the one you're looking at would need upgrades as soon as you purchase it you might want to look around some more, seems like it'd get pricey pretty darn quick there. Or if you or a friend know how to build a complete system, piecemeal one together and save yourself some of the premium they charge for prefab systems (plus the bonus of having everything you want in it already). :)

Regardless, the specs you listed should be able to run the game no problem on highest quality. Only time you might have to tune it down would be if you raid.
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Yeah, I know it's a game that is difficult to run at the best settings due to the initial design like you mentioned. I have done a little research into some builds people have used to play on high graphic settings, and from what I've read, the closer to 4.0 ghz you get, the better. Based on this, I am curious to see how well the I7 processors would run Everquest 2, as they have the built-in speed boost technology. What cpu does your build have Nadenu?


My processor is my weakest link -

AMD Athlon Dual Core 2.8 ghz

I was building an entire computer and my budget was limited so that's what I went with.

It may not make you feel any better, but there are very few people that can run with the settings maxed, or even close to it. So you won't be alone in our "balanced" world, haha.

ETA: I'm an idiot, my card is a Radeon HD 5600. Where the **** did I get 8500? haha.

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Nadenu wrote:
It may not make you feel any better, but there are very few people that can run with the settings maxed, or even close to it. So you won't be alone in our "balanced" world, haha.


This. I play on balanced and the game looks nice IMO, on raids I turn off shaders and with a tiny bit of glitz off my game runs better.


Vista 32bit
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Edited, Jan 2nd 2011 9:37pm by Dyadem
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#21 Jan 03 2011 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
I run wide open with everything turned on with both my current machine (a year old) and the one before it purchased late 2006). I do not lag anywhere (including QH) and typically play with a frame rate well above 30fps. I do turn settings down to balanced for raiding but do so in order to place less stress on the CPU so that I can continue to run other applications in the background. All that having been said, I have made it a point to purchase 'bleeding edge' tech both times. The current rig's specs are as follows:

CPU - i7 920 quad core with 4 X 2.67 GHz
Vid - NVIDIA GeForce GTX-260 with 1GB of Vid RAM
RAM - 12 GB system RAM
OS - Windows 7 - 64 bit home

The previous system ran a duo core CPU with only 4GB of RAM but had 1GB of Vid RAM (on an NVIDIA 895 card) and ran on the Windows XP 32 bit OS.







Edited, Jan 4th 2011 5:43am by OldBlueDragon
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I run wide open with everything turned on with both my current machine (a year old) and the one before it purchased late 2006). I do not ag anywhere (including QH) and typically play with a frame rate well above 30fps. I do turn settings down to balanced for raiding but do so in order to place less stress on the CPU so that I can continue to run other applications in the background. All that having been said, I have made it a point to purchase 'bleeding edge' tech both times. The current rig's specs are as follows:

CPU - i7 920 quad core with 4 X 2.67 GHz
Vid - NVIDIA GeForce GTX-260 with 1GB of Vid RAM
RAM - 12 GB system RAM
OS - Windows 7 - 64 bit home

The previous system ran a duo core CPU with only 4GB of RAM but had 1GB of Vid RAM (on an NVIDIA 895 card) and ran on the Windows XP 32 bit OS.





Edited, Jan 3rd 2011 11:49am by OldBlueDragon


So, the I7 CPU has performed well with EQ2 then? I am seriously considering buying that Gateway computer tomorrow for the 1,000 bucks. While it does not have the same one as you Oldblue (I7 920), it does sport the I7 860, which runs at 2.9 GHz with the turbo boost up to 3.6 Ghz (which I am intrigued by and wonder how it would perform with EQ2). The graphics card I think would be good enough with its 1GB of video ram (although I would be eventually replacing it for a much better card when I could afford to do so). Also comes with 8GB of ram.

My Old, Current rig:

2.66 GHz Quad core OC @ 2.9 GHz
8800 GTX Video card with 768 MB VR
4GB RAM, albeit, on Windows XP 32 bit, so I get 3GB.

So, regardless, I would be getting a nice upgraded system. I just would hope the new system could run smooth, steady fps on at least the high or very high quality default settings for my general questing, running around towns and areas, etc. My current system listed above, I usually play on Balanced for everything and even then, it sometimes stutters in some areas... It would be a dream to finally have a system that can play this game with the top quality visuals that have eluded me for so long.
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