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I'm just not going to run it unless either 1) I'm REALLY bored, or 2) I'm doing it with my FC.

At least FC runs are fun just for the lulz and social aspects. Also, I know everyone will be participating, and people are cool about letting gear go to the people who need it most. So there's an actual sense of community, and not just idiots in the DF who may or may not be contributing.

This content is fulfilling its purpose as much-needed FC content, but beyond that it's really lacking.

Edited, Nov 16th 2015 10:45am by Thayos

I think part of the problem with Diadem (or however you spell it) is that once you click the four spots to attune to the air currents, you can literally go ANYWHERE in the zone. So, naturally, everyone goes straight to the best island and just zergs the crap out of it.

This should be set up so that groups need to clear tiered objectives in order to reach the most lucrative hunting grounds. Groups shouldn't just be able to zone in, click four spots and then zerg the single-best location in the zone. Groups should need to cooperate and even battle a touch of RNG to have a shot at real, quality i210 farming.

Or, perhaps this is even where pop-item farming can come into play.

What if popping star-level NMs required a pop set of items dropped from tier I, II, III and IV NMs? Groups would have to spend time in various parts of the maps farming the different types of mobs, and people/FCs could build up pop sets over time. And the star-rank NMs should be spawnable anywhere, which would allow groups to fight them in isolated areas without needing to worry about being MPK'd by people rushing over with agro/unfinished mobs.

Did 6x Normal Diadem over the weekend, finally got the Pegasus mount.

Agree with the flustercuck, mostly just pulling and zerging the mobs over and over again... Maybe they should put some random event around the map.

Diadem has a few serious problems that kill enjoyment for me.

- Same issue repeated from the hunt system -- too difficult to get credit on stuff that's being zerged down by too many people. When you're struggling to get credit on kills even in tweaked parties with 6 DPS in them, something's wrong.

- Waaaaaaay too much useless loot. The vast majority of the stuff that drops is absolute crap even if it rolls some of the best random mods possible, on account of it being i150 and i180. I have no idea why i150/i180 loot even drops in a duty that requires i180 to begin with; you might as well just cut out the middleman and change all of the i150/i180 loot into brass spoils. If anything the loot tiers should have been i190, i200, and i210.

- Allowing DoLs in the Duty Finder is a big no. If you're queueing as a DoW/DoM with randoms you might as well just give up, because I can guarantee you that half the party will just derp around on a DoL instead, meaning anything you fight will die at molasses pace and you have no hope of getting enough credit for loot at the dino island. But, since the event was already designed around integrating DoLs into it, I don't know what they could do about this anymore. Maybe make a separate instance of Diadem for DoWs/DoMs only that people could elect to queue for instead? I definitely don't think they should be haphazardly mixed about together in the DF, though; that's just asking for trouble.

- On the subject of DoLs, why does everything a DoL gather belong to them and them only, yet stuff that the DoWs/DoMs get is able to be freely lotted by the DoLs?

- Got a real craptastic group? Better tough it out somehow, because you won't be getting back in for up to 2 hours if you leave.
But to be honest, the event just doesn't feel worth doing other than to go in, do 3 of your objectives and get the esoterics and leave, anyway.


Maybe they'll address some of this stuff later, but as it stands right now the event feels kinda like a dud to me.

Edited, Nov 17th 2015 11:34am by Fynlar

Glamour. Supposedly the items that drop there have a random appearance as well as random stats. So that i150 PLD chest with piety on it might look like high allagan gear.

You can't glamour the items over anything as their base items are the level 56(?) HW dungeon drops, the glamours are placed ontop, so unless you like the dungeon look, it's not even useful for glamour lol.

I think we're planning on doing another FC round again this Thursday, Valk. I need to update the FC message with that.

Valk it feels like more rushed content with out any thought.

He said Bumblebee finally found it yesterday.

Whelp.

Post patch ruined interest in this for my FC and a lot of others on my server, so DF may still happen but they definitely are in the right path to killing this event slowly. They created a loot pinata, then took it away (still possible, but...people were there for the 210 gear.) and based on what Yoshi said, people were essentially being efficient when that wasn't what they had in mind (thus the changes.)

Mind you - grinding Dino Island is dumb as ****, but the fact a lot of people are as happy as a pig in **** with their 210 drops largely, means however they intended us to do it, doesn't matter. I'm sure they intended us to go to an island, clear mobs, gather, move on and so on so forth..but doing that clearly is less efficient in terms of gear drops compared to farming NMs, especially in Hard Mode which guaranteed NM spawns. But ah well, guess they realized after a week or two they created an event that invalidated most of the 3.0-3.1 content which is why the Duty Finder is now "fixed" because less will be doing EV lol. The graphical bug was fixed, but the "algorithm" was simply people weren't doing other content as much aside weekly and occasionally dungeons (those queues were pretty nasty for dps at times which has NEVER been the case in an update with new dungeons.)

You shouldn't. SE doesn't do any public testing of their content and has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG history of underestimating their players.

By this point, they really should've figured this out. Their internal teams are great for finding bugs (seriously... very few bugs in the game) but are complete trash at figuring out how players will approach things.

No, that is not what I mean exactly. I think all devs will always underestimate the players as a rule of thumb; kind of like game devs version of Hofstadter's law - "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law."

The above law applies to other studios as well ;-)

Edited, Nov 25th 2015 3:45pm by scchan