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#1 Jun 01 2015 at 8:05 AM Rating: Default
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A garuda HM light window... kills take 2 1/2 minutes, thats 25 kills (its actually 30 kills an hour but Im being lenient) and hour (so 50 in two hours) and you need to kill her 250 times.

So you can finish light in 5 garuda windows which is the equivalent of 10 hours... Now HAT I can do (wish I woulda come to that realization months ago).. I dunno where ppl got this 40 hours stuff from... that plus I had no clue how fast Garuda drops now... I was expecting a normal party to take at least 5 mins
#2 Jun 01 2015 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Neither of the light phases are bad it's just...unnecessary because it forces you into obsolete content (most bonus windows) rather than new content designed for it but as they admitted, their focus was on heavensward (and it hopefully will show but so far it's seeming the same as 2.0 just on redbull and yes i have seen the media tour and even footage someone snuck.)

It's extremely quick because Garuda is 1.x content and in terms of 2.x, she's 2.0 content and per vertical progression, beyond obsolete, so if she drops in 5 minutes there's a problem. It takes 40 or so hours because that's counting if you're not strictly doing bonus windows. However all stages are fairly quick except for atma books, which is by the far the dumbest roadblock in the progression given the design of this game.

Mahamtas will go quickly, hell I did 4 of em on a garuda > shiva bonus window in an hour or so before I got bored that day.
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#3 Jun 01 2015 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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Neither of the light phases are bad it's just...unnecessary because it forces you into obsolete content (most bonus windows) rather than new content designed for it but as they admitted, their focus was on heavensward (and it hopefully will show but so far it's seeming the same as 2.0 just on redbull and yes i have seen the media tour and even footage someone snuck.)

It's extremely quick because Garuda is 1.x content and in terms of 2.x, she's 2.0 content and per vertical progression, beyond obsolete, so if she drops in 5 minutes there's a problem. It takes 40 or so hours because that's counting if you're not strictly doing bonus windows. However all stages are fairly quick except for atma books, which is by the far the dumbest roadblock in the progression given the design of this game.

Mahamtas will go quickly, **** I did 4 of em on a garuda > shiva bonus window in an hour or so before I got bored that day.


Plus the light step was nerfed from when people were first doing it...
#4 Jun 01 2015 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I dunno where ppl got this 40 hours stuff from


Well not all windows are Garuda windows. Sometimes you get the hose day where she just doesn't come up and you're stuck doing like Shiva all day or something.

Additionally light values have been doubled since the original implementation of the novus->nexus step. So that original calculation sounds like it was at pre-nerf light values.
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#5 Jun 01 2015 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Theonehio wrote:
Neither of the light phases are bad it's just...unnecessary because it forces you into obsolete content (most bonus windows) rather than new content designed for it but as they admitted, their focus was on heavensward (and it hopefully will show but so far it's seeming the same as 2.0 just on redbull and yes i have seen the media tour and even footage someone snuck.)

It's extremely quick because Garuda is 1.x content and in terms of 2.x, she's 2.0 content and per vertical progression, beyond obsolete, so if she drops in 5 minutes there's a problem. It takes 40 or so hours because that's counting if you're not strictly doing bonus windows. However all stages are fairly quick except for atma books, which is by the far the dumbest roadblock in the progression given the design of this game.

Mahamtas will go quickly, **** I did 4 of em on a garuda > shiva bonus window in an hour or so before I got bored that day.



I actually like atmas books... the thing thats "bad" about light is it consist of... "just kill the same mob 250 times" umm thats boring and not thought out.. at least with the boos... aside from the tome farming.. each book had a check list of things to do.. it was like a scavenger hunt... that was actually my FAVORITE part of relic... aside from the actually getting the relic weapon phase.
#6 Jun 02 2015 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Raylo wrote:
Theonehio wrote:
Neither of the light phases are bad it's just...unnecessary because it forces you into obsolete content (most bonus windows) rather than new content designed for it but as they admitted, their focus was on heavensward (and it hopefully will show but so far it's seeming the same as 2.0 just on redbull and yes i have seen the media tour and even footage someone snuck.)

It's extremely quick because Garuda is 1.x content and in terms of 2.x, she's 2.0 content and per vertical progression, beyond obsolete, so if she drops in 5 minutes there's a problem. It takes 40 or so hours because that's counting if you're not strictly doing bonus windows. However all stages are fairly quick except for atma books, which is by the far the dumbest roadblock in the progression given the design of this game.

Mahamtas will go quickly, **** I did 4 of em on a garuda > shiva bonus window in an hour or so before I got bored that day.


Plus the light step was nerfed from when people were first doing it...


Yep, they cut it in half. And the mahatma step takes have the time of the nerfed light step (a quarter of the time the original light step took). Got my first zeta pre-nerf, second zeta post nerf. Strangely, 2nd zeta almost took as long because I had 35 Qarn HM runs for that zodiac drop =/
#7 Jun 03 2015 at 5:00 AM Rating: Good
Didn't have a problem with light farming, I'm now in the last stage and that's it Relic Done.

Doing light farming is good if you want to farm other things e.g. Cards. I gained every primal card through light farming, plus it gives poetics/sold and with the relic you need a lot of sold. Although its not something I've had trouble capping in the last few months...

Only part in the entire Relic process I didn't enjoy was the rare drops.. I finished my Atma's before they improved the drop rate (I grumbled) but the biggest annoyance was doing certain Dungeons. Over and over again Dungeons that half the players were new or inexperienced. AV alone is a prime example where mechanics in a Dungeon is important. The amount of times the tank would wipe us just at the start - too many mobs, new players agro mobs....

Will say this though, I certainly felt I achieved something when I finished each phase. I certainly will be glad when I have done it completely but I don't see my self doing another one. With the amount of hours I've spent on this one item, it felt too much like XI in sense of just earning Nobles Tunic.... when it was in demand. Felt as tedious as Gill farming or even something simple Leaping Lizzy camping (to keep the drop and before the rare/ex time as well)....

You know what, Scrap what I said about the Relic. Looking back this is quite simple compared to XI old days !! :D
#8 Jun 03 2015 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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A garuda HM light window... kills take 2 1/2 minutes, thats 25 kills (its actually 30 kills an hour but Im being lenient) and hour (so 50 in two hours) and you need to kill her 250 times.

So you can finish light in 5 garuda windows which is the equivalent of 10 hours... Now HAT I can do (wish I woulda come to that realization months ago).. I dunno where ppl got this 40 hours stuff from... that plus I had no clue how fast Garuda drops now... I was expecting a normal party to take at least 5 mins


That is because like everything else in the game they nerfed it and made everything worth more lights.
Far easier now.



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