Just as the title suggests, I'm kind of wondering if they'll make it easier to attain the atmas now that there are several upgrades past that available...
I mean the Zenith upgrade is now a joke with Myth tomes dropping by the ton.
Atma is the biggest hurdle I can imagine, I don't want to have to do it once much less for multiple jobs as some people have.
New players that need to gear up have to go farm 12 atmas that can take days each... it's ridiculous.
Has there been any talk of this? Please tell me there is, I really want to upgdrade my Zenith after having been offline for 7 months... but I can't imagine taking that long to do it.
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Hairspray wrote:
Just as the title suggests, I'm kind of wondering if they'll make it easier to attain the atmas now that there are several upgrades past that available...
I mean the Zenith upgrade is now a joke with Myth tomes dropping by the ton.
Atma is the biggest hurdle I can imagine, I don't want to have to do it once much less for multiple jobs as some people have.
New players that need to gear up have to go farm 12 atmas that can take days each... it's ridiculous.
Has there been any talk of this? Please tell me there is, I really want to upgdrade my Zenith after having been offline for 7 months... but I can't imagine taking that long to do it.
I mean the Zenith upgrade is now a joke with Myth tomes dropping by the ton.
Atma is the biggest hurdle I can imagine, I don't want to have to do it once much less for multiple jobs as some people have.
New players that need to gear up have to go farm 12 atmas that can take days each... it's ridiculous.
Has there been any talk of this? Please tell me there is, I really want to upgdrade my Zenith after having been offline for 7 months... but I can't imagine taking that long to do it.
Anything can change but the question was asked before and they replied they have no plans at the moment to change it...
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I don't think they plan on changing atma drop rates in the near future. Any and all discussions regarding alleviating stages has been around the book stage, and the myth required.
I've said this in other threads, but I actually didn't mind the atma stage. I'm currently on book 5/9 for my 3rd Novus weapon, and the atma needed to get it upgraded took my 5 days to get. This was faster than my previous 2, but even they only took 2 weeks tops, and this is with working full time and aiming for a modest 1 a day at best. It's faaaaar from the worst grind I've ever experienced (FFXI empyrean weapon, PSO Orotiagito etc), so I kinda just brushed it off and got on with it.
I've said this in other threads, but I actually didn't mind the atma stage. I'm currently on book 5/9 for my 3rd Novus weapon, and the atma needed to get it upgraded took my 5 days to get. This was faster than my previous 2, but even they only took 2 weeks tops, and this is with working full time and aiming for a modest 1 a day at best. It's faaaaar from the worst grind I've ever experienced (FFXI empyrean weapon, PSO Orotiagito etc), so I kinda just brushed it off and got on with it.
I mind the Atma stage very much.
I've gotten 7 now, and one serendipitous repeat. I still have 5 to go. I spent some quality time in North Shroud last night in a party with four others. On the final FATE, every single other person in the entire party went "woot I got it" and then disbanded.
Leaving me alone with my bitter tears. I'd been there about two hours by then.
My favorite analogy to FFXI is the time of my life I lost to Mysticmaker Profblix. It became a running gag. I camped that ******* 57 times, got the claim about half of those, and finally got the drop (Moldavite Earring) when I was helping a friend on 67 SAM skill up. At one point, I was pretty certain I would get my Novio earring from Jailor of Love before I saw its level 40 junior counterpart.
It was like that for about three or four months straight.
I've gotten 7 now, and one serendipitous repeat. I still have 5 to go. I spent some quality time in North Shroud last night in a party with four others. On the final FATE, every single other person in the entire party went "woot I got it" and then disbanded.
Leaving me alone with my bitter tears. I'd been there about two hours by then.
My favorite analogy to FFXI is the time of my life I lost to Mysticmaker Profblix. It became a running gag. I camped that ******* 57 times, got the claim about half of those, and finally got the drop (Moldavite Earring) when I was helping a friend on 67 SAM skill up. At one point, I was pretty certain I would get my Novio earring from Jailor of Love before I saw its level 40 junior counterpart.
It was like that for about three or four months straight.
Atma is pretty easy to get, I targeted each fate instead of just going to 2-3 in the same area.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
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Catwho wrote:
I mind the Atma stage very much.
I've gotten 7 now, and one serendipitous repeat. I still have 5 to go. I spent some quality time in North Shroud last night in a party with four others. On the final FATE, every single other person in the entire party went "woot I got it" and then disbanded.
Leaving me alone with my bitter tears. I'd been there about two hours by then.
My favorite analogy to FFXI is the time of my life I lost to Mysticmaker Profblix. It became a running gag. I camped that ******* 57 times, got the claim about half of those, and finally got the drop (Moldavite Earring) when I was helping a friend on 67 SAM skill up. At one point, I was pretty certain I would get my Novio earring from Jailor of Love before I saw its level 40 junior counterpart.
It was like that for about three or four months straight.
I've gotten 7 now, and one serendipitous repeat. I still have 5 to go. I spent some quality time in North Shroud last night in a party with four others. On the final FATE, every single other person in the entire party went "woot I got it" and then disbanded.
Leaving me alone with my bitter tears. I'd been there about two hours by then.
My favorite analogy to FFXI is the time of my life I lost to Mysticmaker Profblix. It became a running gag. I camped that ******* 57 times, got the claim about half of those, and finally got the drop (Moldavite Earring) when I was helping a friend on 67 SAM skill up. At one point, I was pretty certain I would get my Novio earring from Jailor of Love before I saw its level 40 junior counterpart.
It was like that for about three or four months straight.
I dont know how many times I got that earring. I used to farm Cockatrice Meat down there..
I didnt like the atma stage, not because the time it tool but the whole randomness of it.. The fact that some got it in days while others were months.. If everyone had to do 350 fates I would be ok with that.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 10:19am by Nashred
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I didnt like the atma stage, not because the time it took but the whole randomness of it.. The fact that some got it in days while others were months.. If everyone had to do 350 fates I would be ok with that.
That's my beef. Okay, I need 50 FATEs in this zone, then I get a drop. Cool. I could deal with that. Repeat x12. That's 600 FATEs. A crapton of them, to be sure, but at least I would have a good gauge of the amount of work it'd take.
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I didnt like the atma stage, not because the time it took but the whole randomness of it.. The fact that some got it in days while others were months.. If everyone had to do 350 fates I would be ok with that.
That's my beef. Okay, I need 50 FATEs in this zone, then I get a drop. Cool. I could deal with that. Repeat x12. That's 600 FATEs. A crapton of them, to be sure, but at least I would have a good gauge of the amount of work it'd take.
Exactly..
For Tes and I we like too do things together and we couldn't.
She would get her drop and stay with me hopefully till I got mine. Problem is she would get a second drop and that was even more frustrating for me. She ended up finishing hers in weeks and mine was months..
Now that there are less people doing them it has to be harder. Some fates can not be done by yourself.
When I did it fates were being taken down so fast.. Now it has to be allot slower.
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 10:51am by Nashred
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ZanonX wrote:
Atma is pretty easy to get, I targeted each fate instead of just going to 2-3 in the same area.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
It's RNG, pure and simple.
Laverda wrote:
It's RNG, pure and simple.
And like XI, this game seems to have a pretty awful RNG. See my sig for an example of the really bad RNG in XI.
ZanonX wrote:
Atma is pretty easy to get, I targeted each fate instead of just going to 2-3 in the same area.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
Could you clarify on what you mean by "path that co existed with my birth stone" ?
I know I went for the equivalent of October for my moon kitty, so she is 5th Umbral with Nald'thal as a patron (which worked out lore-wise since I settled on main BLM.)
Also, what do you mean by "targeted each FATE" - you switched zones after doing only one FATE, or you only went after specific FATES in a zone?
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 2:51pm by Catwho
Catwho wrote:
ZanonX wrote:
Atma is pretty easy to get, I targeted each fate instead of just going to 2-3 in the same area.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
I figured my chances would be higher and they were, I also went on a path that co existed with my birth stone I chose for my character not sure if it has anything to do with that but.. I did it anyways I got my atma with in 1 day for my paladin, 2 days for my dragoon and 3 extra atma for my warrior doing the same path.
I just ran to each fate the only place that gave me trouble was outer La noscea.
Could you clarify on what you mean by "path that co existed with my birth stone" ?
I know I went for the equivalent of October for my moon kitty, so she is 5th Umbral with Nald'thal as a patron (which worked out lore-wise since I settled on main BLM.)
Also, what do you mean by "targeted each FATE" - you switched zones after doing only one FATE, or you only went after specific FATES in a zone?
Edited, Oct 15th 2014 2:51pm by Catwho
It worked for me, I did it twice not sure if it was luck or as people say RNG but I got mine pretty fast.
My cousin got his in same amount of time but a lot of people get angry when I post about it thinking I am rubbing it in their faces notice I was thumbs downed lol
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Okay, so standard Zodiac order then. Rearranging it, it should be....
Middle La Noscea - Atma of the Ram - Aries
E. Thanalan - Atma of the Bull - Taurus
W. Thanalan - Atma of the Twins - Gemini
Western La Noscea - Atma of the Crab - Cancer
Outer La Noscea - Atma of the Lion - Leo
C. Shroud - Atma of the Maiden - Virgo
C. Thanalan - Atma of the Scales - Libra
S. Thanalan - Atma of the Scorpion - Scorpio
N. Shroud - Atma of the Archer - Sagittarius
E. Shroud - Atma of the Goat - Capricorn
Upper La Noscea - Atma of the Water Bearer - Aquarius
Lower La Noscea - Atma of the Fish - Pisces
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
Middle La Noscea - Atma of the Ram - Aries
E. Thanalan - Atma of the Bull - Taurus
W. Thanalan - Atma of the Twins - Gemini
Western La Noscea - Atma of the Crab - Cancer
Outer La Noscea - Atma of the Lion - Leo
C. Shroud - Atma of the Maiden - Virgo
C. Thanalan - Atma of the Scales - Libra
S. Thanalan - Atma of the Scorpion - Scorpio
N. Shroud - Atma of the Archer - Sagittarius
E. Shroud - Atma of the Goat - Capricorn
Upper La Noscea - Atma of the Water Bearer - Aquarius
Lower La Noscea - Atma of the Fish - Pisces
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
Catwho wrote:
Okay, so standard Zodiac order then. Rearranging it, it should be....
[snip]
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
[snip]
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
What's your own sign? I bet you're a Scorpio, right? I'm a Sagittarius and had the most trouble with the sign after that, East Shroud.
Maybe we're on to something here. I bet it's based on the player's sign! Or maybe it's the player's sign at the Japan time of their birth.
(Which makes as much sense as everything else I've heard so far about Atma Theories)
Catwho wrote:
Okay, so standard Zodiac order then. Rearranging it, it should be....
Middle La Noscea - Atma of the Ram - Aries
E. Thanalan - Atma of the Bull - Taurus
W. Thanalan - Atma of the Twins - Gemini
Western La Noscea - Atma of the Crab - Cancer
Outer La Noscea - Atma of the Lion - Leo
C. Shroud - Atma of the Maiden - Virgo
C. Thanalan - Atma of the Scales - Libra
S. Thanalan - Atma of the Scorpion - Scorpio
N. Shroud - Atma of the Archer - Sagittarius
E. Shroud - Atma of the Goat - Capricorn
Upper La Noscea - Atma of the Water Bearer - Aquarius
Lower La Noscea - Atma of the Fish - Pisces
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
Middle La Noscea - Atma of the Ram - Aries
E. Thanalan - Atma of the Bull - Taurus
W. Thanalan - Atma of the Twins - Gemini
Western La Noscea - Atma of the Crab - Cancer
Outer La Noscea - Atma of the Lion - Leo
C. Shroud - Atma of the Maiden - Virgo
C. Thanalan - Atma of the Scales - Libra
S. Thanalan - Atma of the Scorpion - Scorpio
N. Shroud - Atma of the Archer - Sagittarius
E. Shroud - Atma of the Goat - Capricorn
Upper La Noscea - Atma of the Water Bearer - Aquarius
Lower La Noscea - Atma of the Fish - Pisces
So my char would start with Atma of the Scales, then move to Scorpion, etc.
That doesn't explain why North Shroud refuses to drop for me, though.
I'm completely confused by this... how do I know what sign my character is? And then how do I know what order to go in? I'm willing to try anything at this point, but I don't even know how to read this.
Edit: I think I figured out his sign - Capricorn, since he's the 1st day of the 1st moon... so now that I know that, I have 1 ATMA so far and it's from Eastern Shroud! So far this is adding up... can you tell me where I go from here?
Thanks!
Edited, Oct 16th 2014 3:50pm by Hairspray
And if you read SE's statement that Atmas are purely RNG based while facing south on Earthday, you have a 4% higher chance of knowing they were telling you the truth.
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
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If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
Archmage Callinon wrote:
And if you read SE's statement that Atmas are purely RNG based while facing south on Earthday, you have a 4% higher chance of knowing they were telling you the truth.
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
LOL!
You forgot to use a Wind Crystal for that to get the 4% chance!
Archmage Callinon wrote:
And if you read SE's statement that Atmas are purely RNG based while facing south on Earthday, you have a 4% higher chance of knowing they were telling you the truth.
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
but a 5% lower chance to HQ the truth
Yea there were threads all over trying to find a pattern and none panned out except it is pure RNG.
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Well they are doubling the drop rate....
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Nashred wrote:
Well they are doubling the drop rate....
Yup, now it'll be a 2% chance to drop instead of the just the old 1% chance.
They said they're going to tweak it in 2.4 because they know people have had bad luck and are falling behind.
Amusingly, Battle Director Gondai said he'd finally start on his. Apparently he only likes to go after items with decent drop rates.
So he's been running his personal character with a soldiery weapon.
Yoshi P actually filled in some DPS slots in the "duty finder" that formed in the queues for events. Seems knows how to play the **** out of his own game.
Edited, Oct 19th 2014 10:36pm by Catwho
Edited, Oct 19th 2014 10:36pm by Catwho
Amusingly, Battle Director Gondai said he'd finally start on his. Apparently he only likes to go after items with decent drop rates.
So he's been running his personal character with a soldiery weapon. Yoshi P actually filled in some DPS slots in the "duty finder" that formed in the queues for events. Seems knows how to play the **** out of his own game.
Edited, Oct 19th 2014 10:36pm by Catwho
Edited, Oct 19th 2014 10:36pm by Catwho
Nashred wrote:
Well they are doubling the drop rate....
I believe he said "More than double".
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They really needed to do this... Atma farming should be really easy - especially now that it's several stages behind the current best/most recent stage for relic progression.
I'm glad they finally realized this.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
They really needed to do this... Atma farming should be really easy - especially now that it's several stages behind the current best/most recent stage for relic progression.
I'm glad they finally realized this.
This wasn't some grand realization. The truth of the matter is they're stringing the playerbase along in a manner. They've log ago said they would make outdated content easier as time goes on, yet it's always pitched as 'listening to feedback' when specific adjustments like raising the Atma Droprate raised.
They're making these adjustments because the content falls out of relevancy, and they have a long standing policy of nerfing content when it ages. I find it funny that the exact same policy is greatly cheered in one aspect then booed in the next.
I wrapped up the last 4 Atma I needed tonight. They were all zones I had tried before with little success. I went 1/10 in Central Shroud, 1/2 in Southern Thanalan, 1/15 in East Shroud, and 1/2 in Upper La Noscea. So that was a combined 4/29 tonight. It was significantly better than pre-patch.
svlyons wrote:
I wrapped up the last 4 Atma I needed tonight. They were all zones I had tried before with little success. I went 1/10 in Central Shroud, 1/2 in Southern Thanalan, 1/15 in East Shroud, and 1/2 in Upper La Noscea. So that was a combined 4/29 tonight. It was significantly better than pre-patch.
That is really good to hear... I might finish my bard's relic then...
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