FilthMcNasty wrote:
Is changing a mark you set to a different mark really harassment though?
There was just a post about a player who was hanging out with a friend chatting when all of a sudden, another player came up and started saying some pretty despicable things. I would consider that harassment. Your situation however, wouldn't qualify to me as anything more than a minor annoyance. It's one thing if their refusal to focus a target is causing your group to wipe repeatedly. Then again, that's what vote kick is for.
Basically you asked them to do something that they didn't want to do. It probably should have stopped there. Ideally they'd say "sure lets give it a shot" and you'd be fine. Instead they said "lolz lets chaeng markur" or something to that effect and even without marking you probably would have been fine.
Again, if they're trying to learn or are willing to listen then they would have responded to your first attempt at asking them to focus. The fact that they didn't was your cue to make like a duck. I know it's annoying and I know it's frustrating, but it's something you'd be better off without letting it get to you. As a career tank I can say with confidence that I've seen this behavior quite a bit. It's actually decreased recently but I'd say that is more because I started running content with players I know, rather than randoms or PUGs.
Why are you trivializing my issue? It wasn't about changing the marks, it was about WHY they were changing the marks. (There's also more to that, but I can humor you.)
So because another person was harassed at a greater extent, lesser harassment isn't considered harassment? Truth is, if you are deliberately trying to cause grief, it's a grief tactic, and SE can do something about it. It ranges to many things, including changing marks and pulling more mobs than what the tank wanted (you know, trying to wipe the party) and just trying to give others a bad time, even refusing to participate in a duty falls under grief tactics. That also includes those who demand to be vote kicked from a duty (report those immediately.) Harassment is harassment. And as I said in my post (if you read it) it seemed the other three players knew each other, making vote kick a silly suggestion.
As I said, I am not letting these specific examples get to me. I deal with them immediately. I either call them out (usually in CT/ST as I will have more support) or I leave and report. I don't take it any further than that. The purpose of the topic however, is my personal annoyance of how often I am running into these parties, not the actual instances. I know how to handle it, but does no one else here notice this issue slowly rising?
I agree it may be due to boredom and trying to get everything done as fast as possible. I can't wait for 2.4 because hopefully it will die down, but we all know it will just rear it's ugly head back up again.
Edited, Oct 6th 2014 9:40pm by Stilivan