Do you think SE really thought out the relic weapon quests?Follow

I say this because I like rare weapons that are long/hard to get (though so far Relic in FFXIV is only long.... but by no means hard). However I think the way its done at the same time makes it stupid for ppl who only play a job thats currently available while waiting (i.e hoping) that in the future the job they actually WANT to play is released.


For example... you want a job like Thief... Ninja looks promising (but up until recently nothing was ever confirmed it was all just speculated) soo you get the game on launch play whatever job they have (lets go with bard) hit level 5, beat AK, then farm 1k philo (at the time) for oil, followed by beating Titan, Garuda and Ifrit hard to get relic... then change to mythic by getting other 1k myth and buying 3 mists )those two tasks are easily and quickly done), now the real work.. now you farm 12 atmas that have an abysmal random drop rate, followed by farming1500 myth each for 9 books and completing each books contents THEN, farming 75 alexandrite, which can an even worse drop rate from fates than atmas... I have 4 atma weapons but i have yet to see a FATE drop ONE yet.. Im starting to think theyre not dropped by every and any fate in the game), which you can alternatively get by farming 800 myth each.. which is 60k myth (more than a 13.5k myth atma books costed). Now can you really convince yourself the subject yourself to all that again on future jobs?

That alone is making me question leveling Ninja when it comes out despite really wanting too. Sure I could get other weapons on Ninja instead but it like relic is the weapon Ive been working on and upgrading since the first day of hitting 50, thus for that reason alone I feel obligated to use THAT weapon and that one only, as opposed to some random dungeon boss drop that didnt require half the blood sweat and tears as that purple weapon.

I think FFXI didnt have that problem because although they did introduce new job after relic came out.. those new job didnt have a relic weapon at all but instead had a completely new/different relic style quest for thier weapons (i.e mythic for DNC, COR and BLU).


The only way I can see that being feasible is if by the time Ninja comes out, getting up to Novus is so laughably easy that you can go from standard relic to novus in just 1-2 weeks of casual play... but considering how "well SE nerfed the Atma drop rate and lowered the myth cost for books" when alexandrite came out, I seriously doubt thats gonna happen... at least not that soon

I said that already. But like i said.... one a day... thats 75 days for that one upgrade not counting the work all the other ones required.. which brings me back to "if you did that all on one job could you really see yourself doing it all over again in other one?"

Just because its tedious right now doesnt mean it always will be.

For the animus part they can easily control how much myth it takes to get the next book. Im actually anticipating them removing thee myth requirement altogether in the future and allow people to complete heir books one after another.

For the novus part they also have control here as well. They can easily swap it so that the +stat on the materia is what gets added to the novus upgrade whih is what i think they will do here as well. They can even lower alex map costs and allow the repeatable quest to be done more then once per day.

Right now yeah i agree it is rediculous to do more than 1 weapon to novus, but im willing to bet they will drastically lower the requirments when the time comes. Theres always a way to do it and i only gave a few examples.

No, I don't think SE intended you to finish a relic for every job in the game. That's why you can get a terminal lvl 110 weapon via other methods.
It's a long term carrot to chase for one or two jobs at most.

And since it took me four years to finish a relic in XI, I'm not unhappy about it.

Edited, Jul 30th 2014 9:06pm by Catwho

Unfortunatley thats part of the issue people have. Its not an epic quest at all. An epic quest would involve doing things that used your brain even just a little bit. The animus quest though does indeed feel like a quest since it involves dungeons, fates, killing mobs etc. the novus part though is essentially a glorified fetch quest. "Get me 75 alexandrite and 75 materia" is an accurate description of the novus upgrade. Personally i liked the animus part better and dont care much for the novus (but i still did it).

1) You don't HAVE to do the relic quest. Use a primal weapon as you work towards a UAT/soldiery weapon. I guarantee there will ALWAYS be an alternate to the relic quest.

2) Who says that any new job they introduce is going to have to go through the exact same relic quest? It could be different.

1. I know that but like I said in this very thread already, Id rather use a weapon I actually had to WOrk on instead of one that just requires beating a boss a few times and getting lucky with drops and lotting.


2. Youre absolutely right and I would LOVE that. But this is the 2012+ gen of MMOs where everyone wants to play it safe and only do think they KNOW will work and thus keep to a cookie cutter formula that makes WoW popular and not take risks by trying something completely new/different.... soooo Im not holding my breath on that happening. Sure it happened with new job on FFXI.... but what about WoW? when they released new classes did those new classes have a completely different "ultimate weapon stye grinding quest" that was completely different than what the classes before them had to do?

I've yet to even collect my first Atma.

I understand the concept of it, but for me its always been easier to farm EX weapons. I'd rather do 100 fun Levi runs for a mirror than spend 20+ hours grinding low level FATEs while synced. If it were the ONLY top tier weapon I'd do it, and probably feel pretty awesome when it was all done. But I'm darned proud of my Elfin Bow and Elder Staff too, I tellyawhut,.

Bossman himself did.

He even made a point, in several interviews, to inform players wanting to build a relic on Ninja and the jobs coming in the expansion should start building their atma sets and stockpiling Alexandrites now.