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in 3 months everything becomes obsolete again. Whatever new tomestones they will make will render sand and oil useless. I'm even willing to bet they will allow us to buy sand/oil in 2.4 with either soldiery or the new tomestone.

The suggestion in the OP is that allied seals be added to frontlines as an alternative to hunts, not as a sole method. This would give people more choice in how they progress. Frontlines wouldn't be mandatory, and hunts wouldn't be mandatory. They would both be optional forms of progress. If you don't like one, you can do the other. If you like both, you can do both.

Personally I think it's an excellent idea. Placing allied seals only in hunts inevitably leads to the massive zerging from entire servers that we've seen so far. Giving more options would ease the amount of people rushing out looking for hunt mobs, making hunts more enjoyable, and allow people who would rather do something else (in this case, frontlines) to progress doing what they find enjoyable.

Would be nice as long as they got rid of that silly "must be solo" restriction.

Well..they are the Hunt currency lol, so yeah we should be forced into it. I much have preferred they did the ZNM style system from XI, that way we could work our way up the food chain and not have to deal with this. And if your other FC/LS members had pops, you can help them far easily and benefit in the process AND make it an event with your whole LS/FC instead of something that dies in 5-10 seconds.

Hunts definitely need refinement still though.

Yeah lol, that was kinda funny our shell did the same too. I just wish they'd have added another way to do it, maybe making use of monstrosity since that technically is the evolution of Pankraton lol.

Side note: I absolutely loved hunting monsters as a blue mage to learn their spells. I want that back. Now.

Do you KNOW how many hours I lost in Sacrarium trying to get that level 40 toad spell?

And you people complain about Atma drop rates.

I know this comment wasn't entirely intended be serious, but this is such old man "back in my day" symdrome it hurts. You'd be surprised how many people pick this argument as their hill to die on, without considering that game design has gotten considerably better since a decade ago and RNG dominated mechanics have mostly (and rightfully so) gone the way of the dodo.

EDIT: OMG!!! lol... I meant to say "wasn't" not "was". Terrible typo.

Edited, Jul 16th 2014 3:41pm by Onionthiefx

Edited, Jul 17th 2014 2:58pm by Onionthiefx

oh gorrammit double post

Edited, Jul 16th 2014 4:47pm by Catwho

The main issue is that s rank mobs have very large spawn windows meaning some people wont see many of these because they will pop outside peoples play time. Rank a and b mobs still die extremely quick. Instead of 10 seconds they last 12 now lol.

What they should have done is taken the a and b mobs out of the open world. Instead, have them act like a leve quest so only the light or full party can fight them. The monsters would spawn anywhere in the zone and the party would have to find them (so hunting as the name implies). The mobs could be done once per day for a reasonable amount of seals. They should also be somewhat challenging to make it interesting. Not super punishing with all kinds of one shot mechanics, but not easy enough to faceroll. Rank s mobs are fine where hey are now.

If SE did this i think interest would pick up and it would be fun for everyone. I know people wanted open world content but not like this. Everyone After the same mobs is causing too many problems.

I think something like this is what a lot of people were expecting hunts to be. Something you could round up some friends and go kill an elite level mob in a somewhat challenging and rewarding fight.

I don't know about anyone else, but my server has a fairly high population and has spawned quite a few full hunt linkshells. The moment any hunt spawns, no matter what rank, it's spotted immediately and there's a giant zerg train coming from the aether crystal. A mass of players gather, people shout things like "wait to pull," or "pulling at xx time." Inevitably, someone pulls before that time, the mob dies in all of about 3.5 seconds, and then a shout war follows which looks like something to the effect of: "Dead" "Who pulled!?" "Blacklist xxxxxxx" "You couldn't wait? This thing was up 30 seconds!" "Should have gotten here earlier then." In all of this, you are either one of the players who was there and got to enjoy your 3.5 second fight, or you're one of the players who didn't make it in time. One will get you your reward and one won't, but neither is what I would call overly compelling gameplay. People complained about FATEs when leveling because they were really easy and mindless open world zergs, but hunts in their current form take it to a level even further. At least FATEs tended to last at least a minute or two, and people were somewhat spread out. Hunts have all of the "excitement" of running with a stampede from point A to B, but with even less actual gameplay. The most efficient way to take these things on seems to be to go on white mage and spam medica and medica II (if you can even get more than a few of them off) even though no one needs any healing, so you can get contribution. That's not even going into what the most efficient way to "find" them is. Is that really what anyone wants to see as the pinnacle of progression in FFXIV?

Paying Seals in order to get seals is never a good thing.

Heck, SE would have done a much better job if they threw these NM's into dungeons occasionally for people to run into. No claim disputes, always enough contribution and a reason to explore and look around a dungeon instead of rushing through it.

This is a fantastic idea.