novus confusionFollow

ok if i need 75 infuses with alexandrite, how many total materia do i need assuming none break (which wont be the case) also to you need every tier of each materias to infuse i.e do i HAVE to use savage might 1 2 3 and 4 to infuse or could I infuse soley off savage aim 1 until I get crit hit to 44?

also does using higher grade materia bring the stats up higher? i.e savage aim 1 gives you from 0/44 to 1/44 whereas savage aim 4 might bring you from 0/44 to 4/44 sooo using higher tier materia would get you upgraded to 44 faster but if that were the case wouldnt that mean less that 75 infuses which you NEED to do 75 infuses to complete?

Also if i do crit hit and acc thats 0/44 on each so how does 88 (44+44) come from 75 infuses if savage aim 1 would only increases crit hit by 1/44? Lastly 75 isnt a whole number so you cant split it in half evenly soo how would 75 infuses equally raise 2 stats?

You need 75 alexandrite and 75 materia. Each materia gets you +1 stat. At 75 melds you get novus upgrade.you start melding tier 1 until it eventually lets you meld tier 2. Tier 1 will be 100% success rate for a few melds then start going down. When you get to tier 2 materia it starts at 100% success rate again and so on. A break will cost you the materia but not the alexandrite. You can only meld 2 stats. He first materia you meld will be the "primary" stat meaning you will get more of it. The second stat you meld will be the "seconday" stat and will cap out lower. All equipment works like this in case your wondering why.

Edited, Jun 14th 2014 6:01pm by Keysofgaruda

No. The primary stat will give you 44 and the secondary 31 This depends what stats you are doing because det for example you wont get 44 but 33ish.

Edited, Jun 14th 2014 6:56pm by Keysofgaruda

Like i said, it depends on the stat. Crit and acc should both be 44 ONLY IF it is the primary stat (aka the first materia you put in) oher wise they become secondary stats and cap at 31. As an example det caps lower even if it is a primary stat. It doesnt go to 44 but 33ish. If its a secondary stat it caps lower than 31 in the 20's

I stand corrected on a few things, but not the det thing. What your saying will make novus stronger than soldiery weapons. Take my glazfaust for instance. It has 44 acc but it doesnt have 31 det. It has 22 det because it caps lower than other stats. So it stands to reason 22 is the det cap if you max crit at 44 first.

Its long yes but not difficult. I would say for an average player that doesnt have the means to do second coil a 110 soldiery weapon is more work to get.

No, again, you're wrong.

You're trying to compare Novus to a normally weighted i110 item and it doesn't work that way. Every single stat (including PIE, which is actually different per Novus) has a hard set amount. This is decided in relation to the stat's normal weight.

DET's cap is 31. This has been proven and reached with it being chosen second. It doesn't matter what other i110 options are there.

Novus does not work like a normal weapon.

EDIT: Clarification.

Yes, a Glanzfaust has 44 Acc, 22 DET because it uses the normal itemization budgeting. To make it easier on themselves SE basically gives each role a min/max amount based on the stat levels and then adjusts. Acc/Speed/Crit all have 31 and 44 as their min/max amounts while DET has 22/31. If you have 44 of the first, you can only have 22 of DET (44 + (22 x 1.4 = 31) = 75), and if you have 31 of DET you can only have 31 of the other stats ( (31 x 1.4 = 44) + 31 = 75).

This is because during normal itemization a secondary stat budget is allocated and then stat weights are taken into account with rounding going up to align.

Novus does not work this way. The stats themselves are weighted before you being infusing them. There is no min/max amounts of the secondaries other than what their hard caps are. The weapon requires an infusion of 75 Alexandrite/Materia and since the stats are weighted beforehand there is literally no other check and balances coming into play.

The difference between the two is that iWhatever is based on stat allocation. You can only have 75 total secondary points allocated in an i110 -- 31 Crit/31 DET or 44 Crit/22 DET. Novus, however, ignores that and goes by 75 infusions.

Yes, it is the strongest i110 possible because of this.


Edited, Jun 15th 2014 10:18am by Viertel

Do you guys think the process to get Novus is worth the effort, considering future content could match or beat Novus weps?

in XI, the BiS weps and gear might stay BiS for years, and take a lifetime of the universe to get. I liked that then, and I like that now. I was actually unaware of the customization option for Novus, so thanks :)

It really weighs higher than the crit efficiency on Bard eh? I wish I had the time to go over the data on that.

I have to wonder the value of Accuracy on the weapon as Dragoon, primarily due to the sheer amount of accuracy provided on even Weathered Soldiery gear. Coil 2 isn't an option for my static at this point. (Twintania is not yet on farm even with the Echo, so we assess we're pretty far off form being ready for Coil 6) I've actually had to do some equipment swapping to maintain the higher base stat and make it so I'm not washing out on too much accuracy for the content I'm doing.

For me, it's likely going to ride on what the Crystal Tower gear becomes. At that point I'll have a better idea as to what all is accessible to me and whether or not accuracy is better for me on the gear or the weapon.

Interesting enough, there is a conversation in the official forums already brewing in the topic with the hints of contesting points of view on the matter of worth verses the Soldiery Tome weapons.

I'm going to hold my opinion on them. Personally, it boils down to stat distribution on available armor equipment, and the ability to customize your stats to your preferences and needs wins out. Unweathered Soldiery weapons hold the same base stats as Novus weapon, including weapon damage, so it all boils down to if you can build a set of secondary stats that work best with your set.

Is it 'worth it?' Eh, it all depends on how you want to play. I'm a fan of customization and of the concept of a single steadfast weapon you carry with you on your journey. (Remember, people waged wars over Excalibur, and Masamune looked badass with leather, but it was a little knife dubbed Rabbit Slayer that took down the god of chaos. Kudos if you get the reference.)

I doubt the Relic weapon will ever be 'best' as there has to be something to do the hardest raids for. However for a steady weapon that will serve as a faithful companion and keep up with what's required of you - and you got some time on your hands, Relic is likely the best thing for you.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2014 4:25pm by Hyrist

That's good to keep in mind. I only have interest in bringing up my DRG's spear for that, unless/until they come out with Red Mage and then I'll do the process all over gleefully.

However I'm thinking of going DET/ACC as far as my Gae Bolg goes, given that it will further enable me to not weigh accuracy as heavily in other gear pieces and food choices down the line. If I divide accuracy into other stats on the weapon, I don't know exactly what I'll be choosing in that. Again, I don't know the stats on the Crystal Tower gear is.

If I can go light on accuracy on gear, by keeping accuracy on the weapon, I do believe I can make out better. Again, won't know until I have all the data.