I think its time for SE to release more (different) contentFollow

by "more" i mean different not more as in "more" as there is already enough... Why DO i think that? Well lets see... getting a relic zenith requires farming myth.... check.. getting atmas require farming fates..... getting animus requires farming even more myth to buy books.... then guess what the long awaited new upgrade requires? zpomg farming even more myth THN doing fates again... clearly SE needs new ideas.


Id rather them do something like "SPeedrun ex garuda in xxx minutes" or something that at least seems thought out instead f following more of the same steps you did for the last upgrades (i mean wasnt speedruning hard primals a prerequisite for relic in 1.0?) Luckily daly hunts will change that but considering theyre DAILY that means you can probably only do em once a day which means for ppl who play for long period during a day itll be back to fate grinding for more alenadrite.. sooooo nothing changes really.

for 1.0 you're thinking of the 17 minute speed runs of aurum vale, dark hold and cutters cry. I know ifrit extreme was required for the relic but i don't recall if garuda was or not.

I agree that they need to add in more variety. Maybe a hunt like the sightseeing log but for mobs instead. you get clues to their location and you have to find them and kill them. I would love it if they added NM's to the game with varying spawn requirements. Some HNM's too would be nice for the hardcore crowd (NOT a fate. a roaming mob). They could make the treasure chest hunt more interesting. Pretty much anything that doesn't only involve new ways to obtain minions would be nice. I would like to actually get some gear whether it be usefull or just for glamour. Maybe a nyzul isle assault type thing where you progress up the tower. Or assault missions themselves. They have a lot of existing things they could work with already or invent some new stuff. The new novus upgrade is making us spirit bind so thats new at least. The rehash of low level, non-challenging content though is getting a little old. I'm not asking for new coil level stuff but when I can sit and watch TV while spamming 1-2-3 it gets boring.

The original relic quest was fun since it had a bunch of different objectives. a bunch of fights, some dungeons etc. The atma/animus quest i found to be extremely stale and I know i'm not alone on that one. I have no plans to do another one until they lower the myth requirment. Grinding myth was mind numbing. The books were ok besides those fates that would not pop for hours.

Edited, Jun 8th 2014 2:26pm by Keysofgaruda

Yes... but just because they've got another MMO doesn't mean they have unlimited developer resources. Furthermore, game design from one game does not automatically translate well into another game.

so throwing dynamis into xiv that uses xivs battle sysem/mechanics wouldnt work? how about a non instanced endgame areawhere you farm mobs onthere for an extremely rare (atma farming rare) drop that would spawn a sub boss who had an equipment drop chance plus a 100% drop of another pop item. then ou farm pop items for the other 4 sub bosses beat them and get their pip ites andal 5 pop ites together allws you to spawn the "super boss" of the area that drops theepic loot would also be hard to do in xiv? i dont see how

Not everything added to a game for the sake of entertainment needs to be accompanied by lore. We've already seen crossovers(both past and future) and the lore can bend a bit to accommodate adding something to do in the game.

I wouldn't mind dynamis, but personally I feel there were other events that worked better in XI. I'm still curious why we haven't seen any of them in some incarnation at least. NNI, Salvage, Einherjar, Campain and even the older things like BC/KS, garrison and the like. There were a lot of things that didn't go so well too. I guess I just expected SE to incorporate some of the things that worked from previous games instead of just character and mob skins.

I just can't get excited about the prospect of CT 5

Edited, Jun 9th 2014 3:39am by FilthMcNasty

You can't just have something be there and exist. There needs to be story or some sort of lore behind it. The things you just listed hit this criteria. Having big content like the one suggested is more involved than an event and requires a lot from it. So yes, actually you do. Especially if you want the content to be relevant in some way.

People care about this, so it's a necessity. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

For Dynamis to "work" in XIV we would need:

- Some means of allying more than 24 players
- Some means of allying Free Companies (since most groups are too small to fill a full 24 on their own but no one wants to go in with a PUG)
- Some means of entering a dungeon with under 8 in a party (because you will never have exactly 24, no more, no less)

Not saying Dynamis couldn't work, but some very basic mechanics will have to be adjusted in the alliance system for it to be possible.

I'd definitely like to see something like Nyzul Isle. Incremental progression, flexible timing, procedurally generated dungeons, randomized objectives, and great gear that can either be obtained via direct drop or by obtaining tokens (NNI.) Make it an 4-8 man dungeon (Nyzul Isle in XI was 3-6) that can be entered with as many as you wish. And it'd be much easier to match this to lore, considering all the ruins that are being uncovered all over the continent.

Most if the stuff he mentioned kind of goes against what you would experience in ARR and would usually expect from FFXI. It's not the features I was referring to when I made that comment, but rather if want a carbon copy of ffxi in ARR then why not just play ffxi. They are different games for a reason.

I do agree that FFXIV needs different content. And even some ideas from FFXI would be cool. But not HNMs. No no no. Bad lol

Aaaand now to hear how Odin and Behemoth are *soooo* much different to what you just proposed.

I think an HNM-style event could be introduced using the Guildhest system. Imagine if each zone had an HNM, and every couple of days, a guard at each camp announced that the HNM was terrorizing the countryside, and the help of 20 brave adventurers was needed to bring it down? The first 20 people to talk to the NPC would be tagged for the fight, which could then either happen in an instance or the open world. There could even be a small period of time before the fight started, giving party members the chance to discuss strategy.

This is a lot like how Version 1.x's caravan and behest systems worked. I'd love to see some systems like this in place to limit the size of HNM or special FATE battles, because capping the number of participants would definitely make for more strategic battles.

Although I would love the idea of fighting HNM's, as has been mentioned numerous times, this game's linear approach to gear progression would negate the joy of obtaining hnm rewards be they mats or direct gear pieces. In my opinion, at some point the devs need to implement some horizontal progression, or people will get burned out and game assets will continue to be abandoned by the playerbase.

The horizontal paths doesnt have to mean abandoning vertical growth...why cant they work in unison? Like this...

Major update (verticle) -》Minor update (horizontal) and repeat as needed.

Same could be said about WoW, want WoW, play WoW - Yoshi himself admitted he designed ARR specifically to give Japan a way to experience WoW as it never had an official release there.



As said, he tends to do that in order to twist something into his direction of the 'argument.' People still do it when it's up, on the NA/EU datacenter i see people leave mid run (except for Coil 2) to go do Odin/Behemoth, but yeah it's generally dead content..even when it was out as the gear was nothing truly special to begin with.

I just did Odin last week. It certainly wasn't dead content!