Endgame Post from a JP PlayerFollow

I'm happy about the change myself. I'm definitely still going to try and down him, but I'm happy that I'm not forced too in order to enjoy or attempt the other fights.

Edited, Jun 5th 2014 4:36pm by Niklz

People say this style of content is outdated and shouldn't exist because "fast twitch based gameplay is the far superior model."

That's how I'm looking at this as well. I doubt it would have been difficult to adjust Titan EX than to let people entirely skip it.

While it's true Garuda EX does have lots of mechanics -- and while some of these mechanics can result in death -- they're not insta-death mechanics. There's time in there to mitigate those mechanics, and doing so doesn't depend on a synchronized twitch move by the whole party. That's why it works, imo.

This is one of the few things I've been having against WoW.

I'm 34, not 18. I'm not 40 yet, but I am slowly losing my fast reflexes and reaction times, and I hate that so many MMOs are going to the "fast twitch based gameplay" model. I remember the days RPGs (and even MMOs) used to be about stats, strategy, teamwork, etc.

Now it is about "Dodge something on the ground that the boss casts in 1.5 seconds that takes you 1.0 seconds to move out of while trying to maintain a maximum DPS rotation". And then you add a small dash of latency and the fact said something on the ground insta-kills you (or damn near it) on top of that.

I'm sure some people find the "dancing" fun, but I don't. I hate the insta-kill mechanics. They are lame and cheesy. Why even have heal spells when the majority of the boss's attacks kill you in one shot? What's the point of even having an HP meter? Why not just make this like a game of Contra where one hit kills you outright at that point?

They could easily remove the boss's regular attacks and make ALL of his attacks mechanics and get rid of the healers altogether and the fight would still feel the same, 'cept you wouldn't need a tank or healer (the DPS would hardly notice the difference).

Instant-Death mechanics have their place, but I feel they are way too overused, at least in WoW (and it sounds like FFXIV is the same). I remember days when Instant Death was something you ate when you were especially derpy and you damn well deserved it. Nowadays, Instant Death can be something like "Have 200ms latency and wait more than 0.5 seconds to move" or "the actual attack did not line up with the on-screen graphics and you still got hit" (I see this with Yaungol on Timeless Isle all the freaking time, I'm standing 5-10 feet outside of the graphic and I still get hit with the attack).

Yep, sadly nowadays gamers expect the games they play to take skill to excel. Obviously stats/strategy/teamwork and twitch based gameplay are mutually exclusive concepts too.

Another thing that would help a lot of people get out of things like that is to

STOP JUMPING

Seriously... don't do that. Here's why you don't do that: When you jump your position isn't read again until you land (and that's assuming the server is polling your position at that point). So if you've bunny hopped out of the death, you have about a 50/50 chance of not getting credit for being out of it and just dying anyway. Whereas if you'd instead just run out of the death, your odds of survival go way up.

Garuda EX definitely has a couple of one-shot mechanics but they're things you can learn and get better at dealing with over time. If the tanks don't swap the spiny and you wipe; lesson learned, try to swap faster next time. That's something you can control and get better at over time and still has nothing to do with twitchy dodge mechanics.

Remove the reactive part of these encounters and you'll remove the interest of quite a few players in said content. Jus sayin

I'm skeptical of this explanation. As a dragoon, whenever I Jump over a poison pool to hit a mob, I still take damage from it even if I started from dry land and land on my original spot. I've also been petrified mid-jump (which is always hilarious) even when my starting position was safe. I think your horizontal position is still being tracked in the air.

This has been stated by the developer that the ability jump dose not prevent you from taking damage from what ever spot you started the jump. So if you use jump then the game will see your character at the position you started jump at no matter where you character is at on the animation. So if you play drg you have to know the script to know when it's safe to use jump or you will basically be animation locked to a fixed point and Mir then likely get killed

The issue you're referring to is that the regular Jump won't let you reposition yourself when you execute it (unlike the other two jump abilities which let you land next to your target and allow for some control as to which side). Because you're locked into your original starting position while the animation executes, you're vulnerable to an AoE you have to dodge because you won't be able to maneuver yourself until it's completely finished and by the time you can start running away it will be too late. It was really bad before they patched it (I think for 2.1) but it's still dangerous if your timing is bad or you're just plain old unlucky.

But that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about not being in danger, from the starting point (which is also the end point) of a regular Dragoon Jump. But if the "flight path" between where you start and where the mob is crosses danger such as a poison pool or another mob's AoE, you'll still suffer the consequences even though you've left the ground, and even though the spot you jumped from was and remains safe. I've suffered through this many times in CT if you want a good place to test this out.

But I'd love it if it didn't work that way. I'd use Jump way more often