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What great content. You need to get a VPN, and find 7 other people who also have VPNs.

Wouldn't want SE to do something silly like reduce plume radius just a little bit.

yes hitome, I am practicing turn 9. lodestone me my name is commander keys on sargatanas. My achievements are visible to all.

I do think I'm skilled since my group is clearing the content with an ilvl that is under the ideal number. I understand that it is anyone in the groups fault for dying to whatever mechanic. But to fail an entire run because 1 single person made a mistake? If you are able to recover then you deserve to keep going. I'm getting tired of the "not dying" thing. It happens. It happens a lot. It happened in FFXI but in that game death wasn't instantly a wipe. If you were skilled you could recover and still win. Here it's just...bleh. Duty finder parties for anything other than T1-4 (now) and hard mode primals (except titan sometimes) is ridiculous. The "no one can die" way of doing things is whats causing parties to disband/kick/rage/elitist/whatever.

I can tell you right now the problem is almost never me when I'm doing things in the duty finder. I know those fights like the back of my hand at this point. But the instant someone gets hit with a single attack (that can be dodged) they get flamed into oblivion. I don't think that's right.

Dodging things isn't skill. You're given enough time to dodge any mechanic on any fight. But every now and then someone will make a mistake because unlike what this community may think people aren't perfect. I've wiped runs. So have you. It happens. All I'm saying is I would rather see skill come from a player and their ability to play their chosen job and adapt to any situation. Right now theres no room for error at all. With better gear sure some things would get easier. Turn 7 has nothing to do with gear though and wouldn't apply (unless your DPS is just ridiculously slow for some reason).

I would like to point out though that I think coil is tuned nicely and doesn't rely solely on one shot mechanics. Turn 6 the boss gets stacks if the wrong people get eaten, but that just adds more to do for healers and might not cause a wipe. Turn 7 you can petrify people, but that won't necessarily cause a wipe unless too many people get stoned. Turn 8 theres really only the double missle that will one shot you. Most of turn 8 is skill based and is probably why my group finds it the easiest. Turn 9 has a lot of crap in it that will instant kill you and deaths aren't allowed. This turn I think abuses one shots.

TL;DR - I would rather see the game shift from "one shot mechanics" to player skill determining fights. If you can recover a fight and keep going you deserve to have a shot at winning.

Edited, May 27th 2014 1:44pm by Keysofgaruda

Won't ever happen. Cuts into revenue. Substantially cuts into revenue, in fact.

Seriously. It's far better to hug one bomb and eat the damage than risk getting killed by 2 or being shoved off the ledge when you can't reach your intended safe zone. They don't teach you that in Perfection School.

You can also get people in Titan Story through it by telling them to run towards Titan instead of just sideways. Lag or not, even if they take the hit they won't fall off the platform.

And like Catwho, I've walked groups through Titan Story, although I was a little more terse:

"Avoid Landslide. Kill the Heart. Break the Gaols."

Edited, May 27th 2014 4:35pm by Laverda

All the revenue I have says that the very same people who are against "one-shot mechanics" would turn around and lobby for experience point death penalties

Holy elitism Batman! Now, I'm not currently playing (waiting for next expansion so I'll have oodles of content), but when I was I ran into the same issues over trying to get past the stupid walls they put up to gate players (Titan HM for relic, T5, etc). I probably did Titan HM over 100 times to get my win. And sorry, but as a tank, there is very little I can do to lose the fight, other than being a dope and getting double bombed by standing in the wrong spot... which happened all of once, or not using mitigation abilities before table flip. Yet I still had to wade through attempt after attempt with players that were either learning the moves, had connection issues, or a combination of both. It wasn't fun, it was a freaking chore, and a huge part of the reason why I stopped playing the game. It had nothing to do with my skill level, and those of you calling players out for just not being skilled enough are just being arrogant. Not everyone has an 8-man static to get sh*t done, but that doesn't mean they should be forced out of content or be constantly bashing their head against the wall.

They ask for perfection just to beat content for a game that's only re-launched less than a year ago. They ask for NEAR perfection for content to simply progress. And almost all of it is done through twitchy dodge mechanics. It gets old fast, and the people who simply say "you aren't good enough, buy a VSP, use addons that PS players can't even access" are the problem. You guys just act like elitist jerks, and it's totally uncalled for.

I'm all for a challenge... but when the challenge is just repeatedly running around in a set pattern 100 times until you can find a group that doesn't fail, it loses its luster fast. When I come back to play, I probably won't even attempt any of that stuff and just stick to the fun stuff for me like crafting, hunts, dungeons, etc, because even though I love a good challenge, I'm not a *********.

Executing something perfectly consistently is a matter of practicing correctly. Executing something perfectly instantly is a matter of skill. Skill is the ability to pick up something with less practice than average.

The internet connection thing is a significant problem. I have a good friend who is doing PLD right now who has a cable connection that literally cuts him off every ten minutes. It's frustrating as heck. He said he is going to spend some quality time yelling at Comcast tomorrow, but they keep insisting the problem is not on their end.

Well, it's not on SE's end, because I haven't been 90000'd in well over a month. My DSL connection has low bandwidth but it has the best Quality of Service I've experienced in an ISP since I started buying my own Internet over a decade ago.

Part of the responsibility of a serious MMO gamer is evaluating the best Internet connection for the games you are playing. If you are trying to play an MMO with satellite, you're gonna have a bad time. And yes, I am aware that it is sometimes the only option available, but when you DO have a choice and you choose an ISP that isn't meeting your needs, you should address that issue instead of blaming the game.

Server problems aren't an excuse to make content more forgiving. I agree that SE needs to get their s*it together when it comes to server infrastructure, but no I absolutely disagree that the encounter difficulty should suffer as collateral damage. It is up to the player to sort out his ISP issues, that is also not an excuse to make content more forgiving.

To be completely honest I find it quite odd that you people, instead of wanting the servers to function as they should, would rather water down the content instead. When did we reach a consensus that watering down content fixes the server problems? All that would do is treat the symptoms, not the disease.

Edited, May 28th 2014 7:14pm by Hyanmen

Oh no, it absolutely is an "excuse". It's called proper design. Perfection is unrealistic. Expecting your servers to function perfectly all the time is not realistic. Expecting people's Internet connections to be perfectly stable is not realistic. Expecting players to execute perfectly in spite of potentially imperfect conditions is not realistic.

Making Titan EX more forgiving is not "collateral damage". It is making a more robust product that can be enjoyed by a wider audience of paying customers.

Just because one person doesn't get 90k issues anymore, doesn't mean they fixed everyone's 90k issues or everyone's server latency issues for that matter.

I can't really point a finger at my ISP when there are dozens of other games I play online with no problems at all. There are a few other games I can't play as well as I would like due to high ping or spikes, but they're the minority. ISPs don't control how often ARR syncs your position server to client and back.