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#1 May 17 2014 at 8:45 PM Rating: Default
Just wondering how it works with having several chars and whether there is housing (I believe there is) and whether my chars can share a house etc.

It would seem quite ludicrous if every char had to go buy his/her own house. Also with the crafting. If I have say one weaver in the 'family' and theree cloth wearers, or one takes up a skill to make staves etc, why can't one make it for the other? Would be stupid to have say five chars and all five of them would have to take up mining, botany, weaving, gold smithing etc.

Obviously my chars cannot even mail each other stuff because you cannot mail anything to anybody unless you have invited them as friends.I cannot see a point in a restriction such as that, never had that in any other mmo.
#2 May 17 2014 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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Unfortunately, SE believes that giving you the ability to move things between your own characters helps RMT, so you can't do that.

As to your other question, there currently isn't housing for individual players, only for free companies. That being said, if all your characters are in the same free company, they absolutely have access to the FC house.
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#3 May 18 2014 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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One thing ARR didn't adopt from other MMOs is the concept of bind on account.

I think the main reason why they didn't allow it is because a single character has access to all jobs. Most single class character games don't allow you to farm up gear for alts. There's enough static about the need/greed system due to alternate jobs. The ability to farm gear for an alternate character would probably not work out well. That said, I do think they should have allowed for DoL materials to be moved.

I think they'd rather you pay extra for retainers to store things. Not trying to call conspiracy, but I don't see any other reason not to allow access. They're not going to curb RMT with it.

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#4 May 18 2014 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
yes I can understand that the gathering is a nuisance if all your chars can do it, I always found it annoying in other games. But to actually produce the stuff, like for instance clothes that I anyhow have to make for quests and then basically have to scrap or sell for 1 gil is kind of silly, when I have another char that badly needs it.

Also, if I can only make stuff for myself or for trading on ah I am not really interested to go through all that trouble.So that kind of scratches crafting which usually is one of my main joys in a game.(especially for late levels, when you can make really good sets etc. but which are anyway limited in production due to mats being hard to come by). To be able to make it for two of my other chars would be a challenge, whereas to merely make it for money does not really appeal. To play a game just to make heaps of money is too much like life itself, I am playing for escapism, joy and entertainment, not to struggle along like in real life lol

I guess I can always put stuff on ah for overpriced and let my other char buy it.
#5 May 18 2014 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Aussiechick wrote:
I guess I can always put stuff on ah for overpriced and let my other char buy it.


I never tried that as I've only really played one character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work.
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#6 May 18 2014 at 6:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aussiechick wrote:
I guess I can always put stuff on ah for overpriced and let my other char buy it.


I never tried that as I've only really played one character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work.


Nope it works, it works very well. Smiley: schooled
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#7 May 18 2014 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Lets face it, FFXIV is a game that doesnt require you to make any alts for any particular reason. Infact, it's very much frowned upon.

What reasons would you have for it. One can, opposed to many MANY other popular MMO's level every single combat, magic, crafting and gathering class/jobs on one single character. Doing this on more than one character is ludicrous and very much pointless. The only real reason one would (or should) potentially do this is for the added storage space and Marketboard space two more "free" retainers yield you.

I feel that's the main reason regarding not being allowed to trade between yourself. Why pay SE for extra retainers when one can simply make anothing character (or 7) that come with the standard price. Having a cap on storage would be pointless then.

This isnt WoW. This is Final Fantasy. People should have a bond with their characters. Feel a bit of a connection with them, a bit of pride. Not throw them aside when you level up your Warlock only to find out that you rather would have invested your skillpoints diffirently and simply level another Warlock to 85 on a new character. Or feel you want to give Warrior a try and level that on an entirely new character only to end up deleting them when the next flavor of the day class appears to you.
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#8 May 19 2014 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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This isnt WoW. This is Final Fantasy. People should have a bond with their characters. Feel a bit of a connection with them, a bit of pride. Not throw them aside when you level up your Warlock only to find out that you rather would have invested your skillpoints diffirently and simply level another Warlock to 85 on a new character. Or feel you want to give Warrior a try and level that on an entirely new character only to end up deleting them when the next flavor of the day class appears to you.


Smiley: lol Thanks, I needed that Smiley: lol

You don't have to delete alts in WoW. I think when I last calculated you could have a character for every spec of every class and still not hit the limit. Also, there are RP servers if that's what you're into.
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#9 May 19 2014 at 2:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aussiechick wrote:
I guess I can always put stuff on ah for overpriced and let my other char buy it.


It amazes me how creative people are. Thank you for the idea Aussiechick. I hadn't even considered doing that. My alt is my daughters character and she hardly plays it but it would be nice to upgrade her etc. I guess I just need an in-game friend to trade her some of my gil and this would work beautifully and you never know someone might buy the overpriced gear if they went on an insane spending spree!
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#10 May 19 2014 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
Free Company chests are great for shuffling stuff between characters as well.
#11 May 19 2014 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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There are actually 2 limitations you have to using a single character.

The first one is the weekly cap on soldiery and coil. If you only play one character you can only do one job at a time very slowly. By using an alt you can freely farm for all jobs but is more time consuming.

The second limitation is which job you pick for your arcanist. If you shove 30 points i to intelligence you're a summoner. If you put 30 points into mind you're a scholar. You can reset stat points but it costs 10,000 company seals to do so. With an alt you canuse both jobs. (You can still use both jobs if you want to, but 30 stat points is a big loss)

I personally dont use multiple chars. Im good with one. I also wish they would split stat point allocation by job so i can use my summoner and scholar instead of using one and being gimp on the other (i picked scholar).
#12 May 19 2014 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I use multiple characters myself, and I'd like say using just one character isn't the only way to have fun.

There are distinct advantages to using more than one, especially when it comes time to hitting caps for the day or for the week. But you also get a chance to customize your characters towards single goals without cluttering your inventory with the needs of every possible class, combat or otherwise. If you'd rather level relying on the bonuses and rewards of the main story and other quests, multiple characters give you that chance. Plus if you're so inclined, you can keep more retainers out working the fields for you than just on a single character.

I have 4 characters, each themed to a single role (ranged, caster, tank, and melee). The only annoying part is leveling classes for cross-class abilities (since that's covering the same ground across your characters), but you can level those up so quickly (since you're not going to 50 with them), so it's not much of a burden.

I don't play every day, and I don't participate in hardcore endgame. Maybe if you were interested in that sort of thing, you'd stick to one character to maximize it to the fullest. But since that isn't my goal, I'm happier to enjoy the casual parts of the game, and play them out with different characters.
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Lets face it, FFXIV is a game that doesnt require you to make any alts for any particular reason. Infact, it's very much frowned upon.

Frowned upon by who?
#14 May 19 2014 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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#15 May 19 2014 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
I thought about running a separate character as a separate class, but then I realized I'd have to do EVERYTHING on that second character all over again and changed my mind. Not worth it.

Instead I decided to focus on unlocking things in phases. I did my gathering classes and crafting classes (which all use the same gear set - thank you overmelds) at the same time as a single battle class, and now that I'm done with those I'm going to finish up the other two magic classes so I can get Master of Magic. Then I'll do the tank classes, and then the battle DPS classes last.

This way, even if I'm "limited" by soldiery and myth caps (which I've never really noticed because I don't make capping those a priority), it doesn't affect me as much as someone who took all the battle classes to 50 at once.
#16 May 20 2014 at 1:04 PM Rating: Default
I have several characters in every mmorpg. The reason is that usually every class plays the game slightly differently, some games even have different paths they follow, so it is like playing a whole new area.

So I do not get all stuck on one character, I play one for say five levels, then I play another one for five levels. Usually I have a character in every class and level them all to the max. That gives me a lot more longevity for each game whilst I enjoy it all of the time. And I am attached to each one of them, remembering when say crafting something that so and so of my little family needs it as well etc.

I realize this game is different to other mmo's and I think if I had to level all the crafting with just one character I would go nuts just doing too much crafting and gathering and it would become boring. If crafting is spread out amongst my chars then each does a little crafting, like 20% and the remainder storyline/quests. If one char had to do crafting for all crafting types and gathering, I would have to spend like a few days just crafting each skill to a few levels up - boring.

But to each his own I suppose.
#17 May 20 2014 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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I thought about running a separate character as a separate class, but then I realized I'd have to do EVERYTHING on that second character all over again and changed my mind. Not worth it.

Oddly enough, that's the one main reason I WOULD run a separate character, to experience all that storyline, questing, and unlocking all over again. Those are the elements I love most of all about Final Fantasy.

And to roleplay a Lalafell. Our FC doesn't have enough taruspeak-ethy.
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I thought about running a separate character as a separate class, but then I realized I'd have to do EVERYTHING on that second character all over again and changed my mind. Not worth it.

Oddly enough, that's the one main reason I WOULD run a separate character, to experience all that storyline, questing, and unlocking all over again. Those are the elements I love most of all about Final Fantasy.

And to roleplay a Lalafell. Our FC doesn't have enough taruspeak-ethy.

I think the ability to replay the game suffers from the lack of questing and lore available. If SE beefed up that area I could see people wanting to level more than one character, but what they have currently isn't enough to go through it again. I know there are some people who would enjoy it, but I think most people see it as more trouble than it's worth.

It just seems that other games have more options when it comes to keeping leveling from being monotonous. You could grind out FATEs in different areas than you did the first time around, but the quests are the same. Other games have more quests than you need to level to cap so you end up getting more story and lore if you run through the areas you didn't hit the first time through.
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#19 May 20 2014 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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Alts are great for filling in when people aren't available for coil. Capping soldiery on two different characters on the other hand...not very fun.
#20 May 21 2014 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Alts are great for filling in when people aren't available for coil. Capping soldiery on two different characters on the other hand...not very fun.


Thats only 2 expert roulette per day. If thats all you did you would cap by the end of the week for only 30-60 minutes of playing. That seems reasonable. And casual friendly too.
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