FFXIV: Underwhelming PS4 Retail SalesFollow

Another thing I think the OP needs to remember, is that some people who own PS4s also own PCs.

If you've got a good PC, and you have a copy of XIV for PC, do you really have any reason to get another copy for PS4, too? You have to look at people who own/buy a PS4 who do not already have a copy of XIV for PC for whatever reason (their PC can't handle it, or they are just starting XIV and decided to go with the PS4 version, or those who were playing it on PS3 already).

Yep. It's much better to look at real numbers related to potential new subscribers. Like that 3,000 new players a day quote by Yoshida from a while back.

Maybe if you say it one more time it'll actually become true? Keep trying.

Why not have both?

I'm currently remodeling my gaming room, and I plan to have a recliner chair, with a PC hooked up to a large TV. I'm going to use a tray that rests across the chair's arms for the KB/mouse so I can kick my feet out, lean back, etc and still be able to use the PC and all of its games. So yay for doing both!



I wasn't trying to say which system was better; I was providing more reasons as to why some PS4 owners have not bought XIV -- they don't need to, because they already own a PC copy and their PC is more than good enough to handle the game. If this were a PS4 exclusive title, then maybe you could judge its sales, but it isn't.

As for reaching whole new markets being the goal, that's half of the goal. The other half is to give PS3 users an upgrade option. I've read many things that tells me the game did not run all that well on PS3 and a lot of PS3 players who bought a PS4 were excited about the PS4 release. Releasing it for PS4 allows PS3 players who own a PS4 to have a much better play experience.



Given it is not an exclusive title, this sort of thing is difficult to predict ahead of time. How many PS4 owners also have PCs? How many PS3 owners are willing to buy a PS4? How good is PS4 availability? etc etc etc.

This kind of thing can be hard to predict ahead of time. It isn't like the copies of the game will go bad; they'll eventually sell even if the sales were as poor as you're trying to make out, especially as more PS4s are made and released and more people get their hands on them.

I'd have to ask as for your reasoning behind making this thread in the first place -- is this meant to be SE-bashing or maybe a "sky is falling" thread or something? Not real sure as to your intentions with this thread TBH.

You really need to give this a rest. It's like your one crutch that you're clinging to for dear life, and it's pathetic. Almost every argument you've made on these forums includes this gem and has been so easily countered with factual links or direct quotes from the producer himself. Do you work on the game; do you know the actual numbers? No? Then seriously just shut your yap about it. No one gives a crap what you think you know, especially when it's disproven or called into major question instantly every time you post it.

You're just being foolish if you think that low ps4 sales have no bearing on your argument, and are even more foolish to be arguing after this was posted:


ARR has sold at a 3x higher ratio on PS4 to PS3 based on total number of consoles in Japan. There's absolutely nothing you can say to counter this. Don't bring up your bullsh*t overall sales numbers, because they are taken out of context of the market, which makes them absolutely meaningless.

Lastly, if the game is so terrible and doing so badly, why does it have an 83 metacritic score from professional reviews, and a 73 from fans? (Btw, that 73 score is higher than WoW just fyi) Why are there countless articles talking about it's success, and why does every word that comes straight from the devs and producer himself support the notion that the game is highly successful? So the fans like it, the reviewers like it, and the devs themselves are happy with it. What more do you want?


Edited, May 5th 2014 10:08am by BartelX

Another meaningless number. They've been producing PS3s for how long now? Of course the ratio would favor PS4 because they haven't released nearly as many consoles. So we've got one side using meaningless numbers to prove that the game isn't doing well and the other side using more meaningless numbers to prove that it is doing well...

The only ratio that matters is the ratio of accounts(not registrations) vs the number of subscribers. We don't have those numbers because SE doesn't release them so it's kinda pointless to argue it until we do.

How does that change anything? You just took a massive leap and said that not releasing as many consoles equals the numbers I posted are meaningless.

In other news, bass is a fish so Porsche's do not handle well on ice.

VGCharts says it's the best selling PS4 game since it's been out.
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41749/Global/

Not only that, but it accounts for more than 25% of the TOTAL game sales for the PS4 last week. I'd say that's pretty darn good if you ask me.

Edited, May 5th 2014 4:12pm by BartelX

No, that's not what I said at all. I didn't say anything about your post. What I did say was that the ratio of sales to consoles is meaningless. You need to work on your comprehension, especially when responding to posts that aren't even directed at you. Put your shield down.


Go look up the word rhetoric. I'm not here trying to persuade or convince anyone of anything. This is rhetoric. We're all aware that ARR has something to do with SE projecting profits, but nowhere in their financial report does it show how much ARR itself contributed to the projected earnings; much less that SE was in danger of going under and ARR pulled them out of the toilet. Yes the numbers are accurate, but they do nothing to prove what the writer is trying to claim.

I'm not posting numbers and making claims. The only reason I brought up the registered users thing is that people are putting weight in these numbers that doesn't belong.



We don't have the numbers that matter so we can't prove anything. Thanks for pointing out that your ratio was useless though. At least we agree on something...




Edited, May 5th 2014 4:51pm by FilthMcNasty

While you ladies argue about projected sales and subscription numbers and PS4 sale to unit ratios, there're children starving in Africa and Russia is flirting with war.

Perspective.

Oh, living next to the border of Russia and in one of the most geopolitically important regions for them I know full well about what Russia is up to and who might be next.

What else do you suggest I can do but try to keep living and take my mind off the fact?