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#1 Apr 21 2014 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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Retainers hit lvl 50 over the weekend. Once you do that, three new 18hr exploration venture options open. One is for ilvl 50 retainers, the next is for ilvl 60 retainers, and the last is for ilvl 70 retainers. The hard part is that you can't deck these folks out in allagan or AF2 gear, because they do not have jobs unlocked. The best I could do is put my arcanist and marauder in CT gear with titan hm / moogle weapons. Have a hero's ring on one. Sold all the rest of my lvl 70 gear for seals like an idiot in my quest to get more ventures. Got Mrd to 64 and Acn to 77. For some reason I didnt have any more earrings or belts for the mrd. Something to work on.

Edit - I have been corrected, you can equip the retainers with allagan.

Anyway, sent the mrd out on a ilvl 60 venture and acn out on a ilvl 70 venture. Just this morning, happy to report that mrd on the ilvl 60 venture came back with 6 silver allagan pieces and 5 hq coeurl skins (not cool) but acn on the ilvl 70 venture came back with allagan pieces and a taffeta cloth. I put it up for 2 million, but then after getting to work and seeing what it actually makes, I'm thinking that I should have asked for more. If it hasnt sold by the time i get back, I think I'll up the price.

Based on the sheer fact that only a handful of people on reddit and official forums have posted about getting retainers to 50, and not seeing the soulflayer minion or taffeta cloth on the auction house in Lamia, I have to believe that this is a server first taffeta cloth. Smiley: schooled

And I promptly sent them out on another. Something like this every 18 hours I could get used to Smiley: nod

And my mission continues to find ilvl 70-80 earrings and belt I havent already sold for seals to fund ventures Smiley: grin


Edited, Apr 21st 2014 2:50pm by Valkayree
#2 Apr 21 2014 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Valkayree wrote:
The hard part is that you can't deck these folks out in allagan or AF2 gear, because they do not have jobs unlocked. The best I could do is put my arcanist and marauder in CT gear with titan hm / moogle weapons.


I believe you in that we can't equip those gear but not for the reason you mentioned, all my AF2 and Allagan gear have both Job & Classes listed on them. In theory one should be able to equip them right? I'm slowly lvn mine up so it will still be a while before then hit 50 and try to get them up.
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#3 Apr 21 2014 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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SillyHawk wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
The hard part is that you can't deck these folks out in allagan or AF2 gear, because they do not have jobs unlocked. The best I could do is put my arcanist and marauder in CT gear with titan hm / moogle weapons.

I believe you in that we can't equip those gear but not for the reason you mentioned, all my AF2 and Allagan gear have both Job & Classes listed on them. In theory one should be able to equip them right? I'm slowly lvn mine up so it will still be a while before then hit 50 and try to get them up.

AF2 is job specific. Allagan isn't, and "Hero's" gear isn't.
#4 Apr 21 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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svlyons wrote:
SillyHawk wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
The hard part is that you can't deck these folks out in allagan or AF2 gear, because they do not have jobs unlocked. The best I could do is put my arcanist and marauder in CT gear with titan hm / moogle weapons.

I believe you in that we can't equip those gear but not for the reason you mentioned, all my AF2 and Allagan gear have both Job & Classes listed on them. In theory one should be able to equip them right? I'm slowly lvn mine up so it will still be a while before then hit 50 and try to get them up.

AF2 is job specific. Allagan isn't, and "Hero's" gear isn't.


SillyHawk wrote:
[quote=Valkayree]The hard part is that you can't deck these folks out in allagan or AF2 gear, because they do not have jobs unlocked. The best I could do is put my arcanist and marauder in CT gear with titan hm / moogle weapons.


You know what, you both are absolutely correct. I must have been braindead. I stand corrected.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 2:47pm by Valkayree
#5 Apr 21 2014 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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svlyons wrote:
AF2 is job specific. Allagan isn't, and "Hero's" gear isn't.


This.

AF2 and relic line of weapons are about the only job restricted items from what I remember. The rest include jobs.
#6 Apr 21 2014 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Viertel wrote:
svlyons wrote:
AF2 is job specific. Allagan isn't, and "Hero's" gear isn't.


This.

AF2 and relic line of weapons are about the only job restricted items from what I remember. The rest include jobs.


That is true, I have a hero's ring equipped onto my caster retainer, which helps a ton.
#7 Apr 21 2014 at 4:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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My level 32 slave girl brought me a Malevolent Mogwand yesterday. Too bad that I'll probably never level WHM or CNJ. I suppose it's better than the crappy furniture I can't sell for a third of the going rate on the MB. As far as gearing my slaves, I kept most of my stuff, and set both of the to Lancer so they can use it. When they hit 50, one of them is going full Onion set, the other full Darklight set.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 6:18pm by Turin
#8 Apr 22 2014 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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I got a Carbuncle Rug from my lvl 25 Retainer. Sold it for 400k
#9 Apr 22 2014 at 8:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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The taffeta cloth sold for 2 million before I could get back online and up the price (thanks PSN maintenance). Still, I was quite happy with 2 million. Eager to find out what would hapen next, I waited on the next 18hr mission to clear at 1am. The ilvl 60 mrd brough me 6 allagan silver and ..... 2 hq coeurl meat? Smiley: frown Forget ilvl 60 ventures (5 hq coeurl skins and now 2 hq coeurl meat). I immediately spent bought enough wolfram gear to push him to ilvl 70 and sent him on an Exploration XIII Venture. I then checked the Acn, the one who brought me the taffeta cloth the night before... and she brings me the Soulflayer Minion. There it is.

Lamia server first, I'm almost 100% on this one. I put it up for an unreasonably higher price, in good server first fashion. And I sent her back out on another Exploration XIII. Now I've got two out and 18 hours later I'll tell you if every drop is a taffeta cloth or a soulflayer minion. If it is... oh man. The bluegartr website only lists taffeta cloth and soulflayer minion as possible drops from the XIII ilvl 70 exploration venture, and that's all I have received (there than xp and allagan silver). As my sample size grows I can fill everyone in on the drop rates.

My miner is now lvl 45. I have no idea how I will make him ilvl70 since I can't even get my own gathering jobs past ilvl60 at the moment. I'll let you know what to expect when he hits 50 as well. I've got no idea how long I have before the rest of the server catches up. I'll try to stay on the top of the mountain as long as possible. Got two more coming off the presses today at 7pm.

Surprisingly, the XIII exploration venture brings in 245,000 xp for the already level capped retainer. I suppose they are doing this with intent to allow them to level higher in the future. We will see.

#10 Apr 22 2014 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
Don't know if you saw but I snagged two Apricot Shards off the MW and dropped them in the chest.
#11 Apr 22 2014 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Mostly my retainers (both in their 20's, ones a botonist the other is arcanist) bring back house items quite regularly, followed by nq and hq mats... a few times i've gotten higher level gear (the level 35 bow from Qarn, a hq 38 crafter chest). Just today i got the i70 darklight healer pants (the ones that were previously bought with philo mats). I
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#12 Apr 22 2014 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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My Lv15-ish Botanist has brought back HQ items the last 5 times in a row with Field Exploration, so...

lol.

Not sure what's up with that.
#13 Apr 22 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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Lyrailis wrote:
My Lv15-ish Botanist has brought back HQ items the last 5 times in a row with Field Exploration, so...

lol.

Not sure what's up with that.

They seem to do that most of the time for 18 hour ventures, coming back with a small bunch of HQ from the level range.

Question for the OP, do you have the targeted 1 hour ventures for extra stuff at the 60 and 70 level as well? I'm on pace to have my miner and botanist at 50 tomorrow night, I'll post up what options I get.
#14 Apr 23 2014 at 2:01 AM Rating: Good
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Just for those who haven't found this yet, but for retainers with DoW/DoM classes equipped, the highest tier 18 hour expedition requires I lvl 70 average gear. If you've given your retainer a DoL class, you'll need 382 gathering to send them on the highest tier expedition. Basically, cap all your gear out in gathering and give them your New foragers tool and they are set to go. My retainer will end up having better gear than I'm going to have lol. I just need 65 more fragrant logs and I'll have the new tool and hate for them to use.
#15 Apr 23 2014 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
Don't know if you saw but I snagged two Apricot Shards off the MW and dropped them in the chest.


stouter wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
My Lv15-ish Botanist has brought back HQ items the last 5 times in a row with Field Exploration, so...

lol.

Not sure what's up with that.

They seem to do that most of the time for 18 hour ventures, coming back with a small bunch of HQ from the level range.

Question for the OP, do you have the targeted 1 hour ventures for extra stuff at the 60 and 70 level as well? I'm on pace to have my miner and botanist at 50 tomorrow night, I'll post up what options I get.


Once you hit lvl 50 on a retainer, there are no additional targeted 1 hr "hunting" ventures added. Instead, three new "Exploration" ventures are added. One, XI, requires that your retainer have item level 50 equipped. The second, XII, requires that the retainer is ilvl 60. The third, XIII, requires the retainer have ilvl 70. That's all we have for now.

Edited, Apr 23rd 2014 8:27am by Valkayree
#16 Apr 23 2014 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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swisa wrote:
Just for those who haven't found this yet, but for retainers with DoW/DoM classes equipped, the highest tier 18 hour expedition requires I lvl 70 average gear. If you've given your retainer a DoL class, you'll need 382 gathering to send them on the highest tier expedition. Basically, cap all your gear out in gathering and give them your New foragers tool and they are set to go. My retainer will end up having better gear than I'm going to have lol. I just need 65 more fragrant logs and I'll have the new tool and hate for them to use.


Really good advice. My miner is at 46, and from what I am seeing, it is going to be a really long time before I have him hold the new forager's tool.

#17 Apr 23 2014 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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Valkayree wrote:
As my sample size grows I can fill everyone in on the drop rates.


Sample size grew. First time I had enough item level to have both go out. Here is my data. Needless to say, yesterday I was dissapointed. All returns come with 3 allagan silver, so I'll leave that off. Soulflayer minion still up for 2.5 million in auction house if anyone is interested. And thanks Kat, I saw the almond seeds, I went in and bought the last one that was left in addition. They should return today around 4pm, so I'll get another attempt in before maintenance. I'll keep this going until I can have some real data. I'm hoping I just didn't get super lucky my first two tries.

Turns out that I was Lamia server first by a fraction of a day. Someone put up another taffeta cloth yesterday and it sold for two million as well. In addition, someone must have received a light steel plate from their retainer as well, because the server first was posted and sold for 650k. Currently the board for both is empty, so the demand is there.

Ilvl 77 ACN
XIII Exploration Venture
1. Taffeta Cloth
2. Soulflayer Minion
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat

Ilvl 70 MRD
XIII Exploration Venture
1. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat


Edited, Apr 23rd 2014 8:39am by Valkayree
#18 Apr 23 2014 at 7:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Got my DoL retainers to 50, and here's what it looks like:
-You can't send them for 1 hour runs for any 1 star or 2 star items
-Gathering (probably) affects the quantity you get from 1 hour runs; I was getting 15 per venture of the 46-50 items in ilvl40 gear, now with 383 gathering it's 30 of any item 1-50 except seeds
-The 18 hour ventures unlocked at 50 require 323 gathering for XII, 383 gathering for XIII
-I assume that XII is for 1 star items, and XIII is 2 star items, 1-5 of the items HQ plus some money for each 18 hour venture

Edited, Apr 23rd 2014 9:41pm by stouter
#19 Apr 24 2014 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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stouter wrote:
Got my DoL retainers to 50, and here's what it looks like:
-You can't send them for 1 hour runs for any 1 star or 2 star items
-Gathering (probably) affects the quantity you get from 1 hour runs; I was getting 15 per venture of the 46-50 items in ilvl40 gear, now with 383 gathering it's 30 of any item 1-50 except seeds
-The 18 hour ventures unlocked at 50 require 323 gathering for XII, 383 gathering for XIII
-I assume that XII is for 1 star items, and XIII is 2 star items, 1-5 of the items HQ plus some money for each 18 hour venture

Edited, Apr 23rd 2014 9:41pm by stouter


Good to know! If you start on the 18hr ventures, it would be good to know your drop rates. My miner is still at 46, but now that the quick ventures have been nerfed and I can no longer get super expensive furniture, I may opt for the 1 hr hunting option instead. I could use the guaranteed drops until I hit 50. Too many fish lately.

Edited, Apr 24th 2014 10:41am by Valkayree
#20 Apr 24 2014 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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One more set for ya. I'll have another around noon. Dissapointing. I was hoping for a higher drop rate on the really good stuff. I guess I just started off super lucky 2x in a row. Still only received 3 allagan silver pieces in addition to each drop.

Ilvl 77 ACN
XIII Exploration Venture
1. Taffeta Cloth
2. Soulflayer Minion
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat

Ilvl 70 MRD
XIII Exploration Venture
1. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
2. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins


Edited, Apr 24th 2014 10:44am by Valkayree
#21 Apr 24 2014 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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Updated from my 4/24 run. No luck. Drop percentage is getting pretty low now.

Ilvl 77 ACN
XIII Exploration Venture
1. Taffeta Cloth
2. Soulflayer Minion
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat
5. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins

Ilvl 70 MRD
XIII Exploration Venture
1. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
2. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat


Edited, Apr 24th 2014 1:40pm by Valkayree
#22 Apr 24 2014 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
They did it on purpose to get your hopes up.

Gathering on the lower levels also seems to directly impact the quantity of goods your retainers bring back. I dressed up my fisher retainer in better clothes and he went from bringing me back 3 blue corals to 7 on his fishing expedition.

Edited, Apr 24th 2014 2:48pm by Catwho
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stouter wrote:
Got my DoL retainers to 50, and here's what it looks like:
-You can't send them for 1 hour runs for any 1 star or 2 star items
-Gathering (probably) affects the quantity you get from 1 hour runs; I was getting 15 per venture of the 46-50 items in ilvl40 gear, now with 383 gathering it's 30 of any item 1-50 except seeds
-The 18 hour ventures unlocked at 50 require 323 gathering for XII, 383 gathering for XIII
-I assume that XII is for 1 star items, and XIII is 2 star items, 1-5 of the items HQ plus some money for each 18 hour venture

My first XIII ventures got me 3 HQ gold sand, and 3 HQ Dz tomatoes, both 1 star items...
#24 Apr 25 2014 at 7:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Updated from my 4/25 run. Hit a taffeta cloth today on my MRD. Debunked the old reddit myth that light steel drops off the meele and taffeta drops off the mages. Drop percentage is still low. As of now, 5 taffeta have been/are on the board, 2 have sold. 2 light steel have been on the board, both sold. Only one soulflayer minion has been on the board, and has not sold (I'm sure I set the price too high, but consider it a placeholder until I find a second). I'm sure someone wants it that bad.

Ilvl 77 ACN
XIII Exploration Venture
1. Taffeta Cloth
2. Soulflayer Minion
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat
5. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
6. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat

Ilvl 70 MRD
XIII Exploration Venture
1. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
2. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. Taffeta Cloth
#25 Apr 25 2014 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
They did it on purpose to get your hopes up.

Gathering on the lower levels also seems to directly impact the quantity of goods your retainers bring back. I dressed up my fisher retainer in better clothes and he went from bringing me back 3 blue corals to 7 on his fishing expedition.

Edited, Apr 24th 2014 2:48pm by Catwho


The hunting missions are definitely influenced by your gear. Higher yield and more hq chance the higher you go. The quick ventures appear to be influenced by nothing. I'm thinking that based on my figures the exploration ventures are also not influenced by any gear level higher than the minimum requirement.
#26 Apr 28 2014 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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Back to provide you with the drops from the weekend. Got miner to 50, so I will also be adding his ventures to the mix. Mostly got a lot of junk this weekend, but did get another soulflayer minion this morning. Also sold my first minion and my 2nd taffeta cloth, so good times all around. Thanks retainers!

Ilvl 77 ACN
XIII Field Exploration Venture
1. Taffeta Cloth
2. Soulflayer Minion
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat
5. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
6. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
7. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
8. 2 HQ Hippogryph Skins
9. 2 HQ Hippogryph Skins
10. Soulflayer Minion

Minon Drop Rate: 20%
Taffeta Cloth Drop Rate: 10%
Light Steel Plate Drop Rate: 0%

Ilvl 73 MRD
XIII Field Exploration Venture
1. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
2. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
3. 2 HQ Coeurl Meat
4. Taffeta Cloth
5. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
6. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat
7. 3 HQ Hippogryph Skins
8. 3 HQ Coeurl Meat

Minon Drop Rate: 0%
Taffeta Cloth Drop Rate: 12.5%
Light Steel Plate Drop Rate: 0%

lvl 50 Miner
XI Field Exploration Venture (Drops allagan silver in addition to the following:)
1. 2 HQ Gold Ore
2. 2 HQ Volcanic Rock Salt

Edited, Apr 28th 2014 10:38am by Valkayree
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