I'm a kind of "now" person for this sort of thing, I want the glowing blazing mighty lion fists of destruction for Monk now, right now!.
However between them and me stood/stand...
30 dungeon runs
30 fates hunts
It is quite a lot, I was hoping to finish the animus by the 3rd week after the path, sadly it didn't happen, but now on my 6th book and quite close to the goal, I realize that it was really intended to be a marathon not a race, a way to put all those extra Mythology tomes that you will farm anyway to some use and complete the weapon in 2 or 3 months at a reasonable peace, unfortunately it was unreasonable to think that your average MMORPG player would look at it that way.
In my opinion, the Zodiac weapon quest line is a good example of a good design in paper that translates in an awful implementation once it's actually live.
Wow... It looks different put all out on paper, never really realized I did all that! I guess that's why I've been taking a break from playing this week. LOL But all in all, booo to the man that made this thread. I use to brag that these threads hadn't popped up on Zam yet... But here we are...
You know they say that only a small percentage of the population actually voice their concerns on forums, while the rest of the Atma farming people are to busy farming atma, and playing the game to post on the threads complaining about it. I guess my question to the OP is.... What did you hope to achieve by making this thread?
Now don't get me wrong, I do agree that maybe there should have been some other way of getting the 12 Atma's besides doing old low level Fate's, but Fate's are kinda like our today's NM's. And since there is no NM's to camp, we must camp the Fate's. They could have made it drop from particular fates, or boss fates only, then instead of doing the sheer amount we do now for them to drop, you could be left with doing these particular ones that don't pop much, having the whole server camped out at particular fates downing them in mere seconds. Then you might complain about how its to hard to get silver or gold. Or to long waiting on fate's and how you wish you could get the atma's from any fate.
I think it really reflects on how fast people want things done, and how entitled people are to their opinions in this new internet based world. I remember I told my cousin, lets go back and look at old forums and see how many people use to get mad at some of the stuff that was required in FFXI... We searched for two hours, going far back as to 2002 looking for people's thoughts on FFXI before the first expansion, decoding Japanese text, and looking at generally how people felt about doing certain things like the Dynamis grind to get their relics. And you know what... they were very hard to find.
No one got mad about farming Dynamis over and over and over, and said their AF drop rate sucks, and all this about this needs to be fixed, and that needs to be changed. The old MMO'ers of old were fierce, and they went out and tried to accomplish these things because the game asked them to. They didn't huddle around forums hoping that the game developers would hear their cries, and change the process.
It's kinda how media changed games. Back in the day we didn't wait to see review scores before we went out to buy a game. You were just in the store, and looked at the back of the box, and was like hmmm this looks good, and you bought it. You fell off the side of that cliff 20 times, and thought to yourself this stage is hard as ****, but you didn't hit internet forums saying the game was broken, and that cliff needed to be looked into. Times have changed and so have people, and I can only hope that Yoshi P doesn't listen to every moan about these type of things. Like someone else said I welcome that he gave us 3 different paths to get good, great, and better weapons. All these things take time, it's kinda sucky, but you will feel good once you've accomplished it... I guarantee it!! I did....
And believe me, the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence. I know people who's fought Leviathan extreme 50+ times and haven't seen the mirror drop, some people have fought him 30 times and haven't seen their weapon drop. Not to mention that the Weathered weapon takes a drop from turn 8, and about 4 weeks of Soldiery to get it, and lets not even talk about beating turn 9 in hopes your weapon will drop. You'll need that bad boy on farm status. MMORPG's take time... Matter fact... They take perseverance, determination, skill, and patience, sprinkled with luck. You need luck to see the drop, you need luck to win the lot... Patience my friend, wax on, wax off!!! Edited, Apr 21st 2014 8:12am by SirLuciousLeftfoot