I love Duty Roulette Extreme!Follow

Just sayin... it's one of the new dungeons... all of which seem like a throwback to FFXI to me in different ways...

All of them are extremely fun...

And you get extra Soldiery just for doing the daily roulette...

I wish we could do the roulette together though that would be awesome!

Unfortunately, they made the mistake of adding myth from most of the bosses and soldiery on the last boss. Yet, they also emphasize myth farming in 2.2. Guess what a lot of groups do to farm myth? >_<

How long does CT take? 40 min to 1 hr?

I can suit up my paladin, get a Brayflox party together, run in, pull everything to the bridge, knock it down (pop hallowed), lock out monkey and plant, beat first boss ignoring adds (I try to stand in the line so I can draw sniper fire), pull three goblin groups, knock them down, beat boss ignoring adds (same line concept), then leave instance, rinse, repeat. 8-10 minutes with a decent group, 50 myth. Plus about 4 good darklight / philosophy mats (i.e. potash, coke, etc) per run.

Conservatively, I can get double the myth in the same amount of time speed running Brayflox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOH3US6K44

Edited, Apr 11th 2014 8:51am by Valkayree

15 - 25 minutes in a good group, a little over whoring out Brayflox Hard, but you also get 100 for slightly slower runs (CT) compared to faster runs with Brayflox. Flox is easier since so many trolls on the NA/EU datacenter can make CT last an eternity lol.



They will fix it, most likely nerf Myth gains on first 2 bosses and add a slightly boosted bit (in comparison) on final boss..for example you'll probably get 10 myth on first 2 booses then 20 on final. If people don't want to see that or dislike stuff like that happening, they should stop doing things like this and SE won't react lol, we all want quick Myth but SE clearly neutered the gains to keep us busy until 2.3.

Edited, Apr 11th 2014 11:04am by Theonehio

Yeah, I wonder if SE intended people to do a dungeon only half way lol. All that does is hinder the people who want to fully run it (especially for the last chest for some of the chest pieces they may want.) If it was only PF it wouldn't be a problem being "efficient", but now that it's crept into DF, it's obviously going to change lol.

If you are referring to Brayflox I would say, ok, average group 15 -25 minutes assuming no big pulls.

But if you are suggesting that you can finish CT in its entirety in 15 minutes, even with a premade 24 man group, I would ask you to surrender your crack pipe.

Edited, Apr 11th 2014 2:57pm by Valkayree

You need to have a healer that knows what to do, too. It's okay if you lose hate on a mob to a DPS during a big pull, provided your healer doesn't have tunnel vision and lobs cures on 'em.

Some of that is on the healer. It's OK to lose hate sometimes if the healer can keep the DPS up.

If the WHM is pulling hate on all the mobs (despite Flash spam), the mobs aren't dying fast enough, and he's generating too much threat from having to spam heals due to the mobs being alive for too long. The BLMs are what should usually be pushing the threat envelope, not your WHM.

If the WHM is only pulling hate on some of the mobs (usually this happens near the start of the encounter), your Flash is likely not hitting everything. It's tricky sometimes, what with those ****** coeurls pushing everything else out of their way.

The first pull is the toughest and is what I recommend popping Hallowed Ground on (not necessarily right away, but at some point after you've got the mobs situated), and I recommend actually making a /p macro for this for SR purposes. Reason being: that macro should be the signal to your WHM to top you off, give you a Regen, and start preparing some Holy hand grenades. The stuns from this will effectively extend your Hallowed Ground a bit further. Use other cooldowns as you see fit past the 3rd Holy (after which stuns will start to be ineffective) to help keep a few more Holy casts going.

If using a WAR tank instead, you can do a similar sort of thing with Holmgang, however the WHM needs to start preparing Holy much sooner (in lieu of topping the WAR off) due to its much shorter duration. Something that I've heard works well for others is, as soon as the WAR is approaching death, the WAR pops Holmgang and the WHM (possibly even before Holmgang is popped) prepares Holy to stun all the mobs. After the first Holy, top the possibly-1-HP WAR off with Benediction so you don't have to drop Cleric Stance, and then resume with more Holy as you see fit. This requires both an attentive WAR and WHM, however. Note that the stun needs to have taken effect from the first Holy (not just the finished casting) before that Holmgang wears off, and you must actually hit all the mobs with said Holy, for this to work without any mishaps.

Make sure you're actually pulling the mobs far enough to the point where you aren't getting bombs rained on you anymore (up to the river prior to the rafflesia + opo before the boss). The bombs may not be particularly damaging by themselves, but when you've got 10 mobs on you already, several of which will be throwing AoEs of their own, even those bombs may prove to be a tipping point.

Usually when all the mobs catch up to you (don't forget to use Sprint!), the first thing a lot of them will try to do (particularly the raptors) is try to AoE you. I would dodge that first set, but by the time another set of AoEs starts coming, you should probably have Hallowed Ground up at that point and/or the WHMs will probably be stunning them.

Edited, Apr 12th 2014 12:07am by Fynlar

50/50 your priority is to keep the mobs tight but try not to eat every single AoE.

One important hint though, as a PLD your TP is almost irrelevant once you have all mobs together, so instead of just pulling by aggroing every mob on the way to the ramp, try to use shield lob once on each of them, it does help.

Once you have everything on you pop Hallowed ground, right before it ends Sentinel + Bulwark and right before sentinel ends go Rampart + Foresight + Convalescence (this one last because it increases your healers hate generation)

And if your DPS's couldn't take the group down in less than 40 seconds your group does need better DPS's.