Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

PROTIP: acquiring your Artisan Spectacles Follow

#1 Mar 27 2014 at 7:54 PM Rating: Excellent
These spectacles are great, they have the same stats as a fully melded normal i55 crafting hat, with an extra 3 or so control. Wearable across all classes, one head piece for all your DoHs, thanks SE!

Anywho ... (The following pertains to those who do not have stockpiles of pre 2.2 myth ingredients, Potash, Lime, etc) .. hope you have CUL. To obtain the spectacles you need 10 HQ synths from a jobs Master Recipe Book. To obtain these books you need to turn in 5 HQs of each jobs two star ingredient (Vanya Silk, Hard Hippo Leather, Treated Spruce, etc) ie sh*tty 40 durability synths. Culinary gets to turn in 5 Sauteed Coeurl, each synth calls for 1 Sherry, you can buy 10 for 2,200 Grand Company Seals (each potash, lime, animal fat, etc is 2,500 per piece) No brainer, right?

Next is the Spicy tomato relish, you gain this recipe from the Master Recipe Book you just bought with the 5 easily HQ'd suatee's. This recipe calls for 1 Dzameal Tomato (easy rare node gather for any BTN, 1PM Wineport slot 3) the rest is stuff that is low level gathered stuff, brown vinegar (4x Noble Grapes) Garlean Garlic cinnamon, table salt (and I think one other easy ingredient that escapes me at the moment). Now these new 2 star synths have some beefy quality to them, 5K+ so HQ ingredients will once again be your best friend and make life easy. 10 easy synths and go get those spectacles!

Prost!



Edited, Mar 28th 2014 7:21am by Hallertau
#2 Mar 27 2014 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
**
847 posts
Quote:
(each potash, lime, animal fat, etc is 2,200 per piece)


2500 apiece.
#3 Mar 28 2014 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
***
2,689 posts
Hallertau wrote:

Culinary gets to turn in 5 Sauteed Coeurl, each synth calls for 1 Sherry, you can buy 10 for 2,200 Grand Company Seals (each potash, lime, animal fat, etc is 2,500 per piece) No brainer, right?

Next is the Spicy tomato relish, you gain this recipe from the Master Recipe Book you just bought with the 5 easily HQ'd suatee's. This recipe calls for 1 Dzameal Tomato (easy rare node gather for any BTN, 1PM Wineport slot 3) the rest is stuff that is low level gathered stuff, brown vinegar (4x Noble Grapes) Garlean Garlic cinnamon, table salt (and I think one other easy ingredient that escapes me at the moment). Now these new 2 star synths have some beefy quality to them, 5K+ so HQ ingredients will once again be your best friend and make life easy. 10 easy synths and go get those spectacles!
Edited, Mar 28th 2014 7:21am by Hallertau


I cannot thank you enough for this! I was facing Vanya silk....
____________________________
Blogging again! http://eldelphia.wordpress.com
#4 Mar 28 2014 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
You are my hero, thx man.
#5 Apr 04 2014 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
Is there any way to HQ these with NQ materials? or is it best to try and use only HQ? im 0/10 on using NQ mats with the usual HQ technique, and pulling my hair out :( Thanks if you can help!
#6 Apr 04 2014 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for the heads up. Guess I better make those other 13 CUL levels a priority.
#7 Apr 07 2014 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
PerusaLenne wrote:
Is there any way to HQ these with NQ materials? or is it best to try and use only HQ? im 0/10 on using NQ mats with the usual HQ technique, and pulling my hair out :( Thanks if you can help!


You can buy the coeurl stuff to get the book for 9000 gil a piece on Lamia. So that is around 45000 for the book.

Now the tomato soup... unsellable. oh man. Fail and I'm stuck with NQ crap I can't do anything with. Can't even feed the homeless. Its ok though, because that means not just anyone can have the spectacles. Only legit crafters. Ok... I'm not fully melded so I needed rolanberry food to get my craftsmanship up. And I bought out hq dzmael tomatoes and all the other hq materials. I only had one that was not hq. Absolutely important to have hq tomatoes. They add the most to the quality bar.

But I did the usual comfort zone > Inner quiet, then Ingenuity 2 > Waste Not, then Careful Synthesis II a total of 3 times. Then I went steady hand II > Waste Not > Hasty Touch x 3 and repeated until I was within three clicks to completion, and used Byregot's Blessing > Careful Synthesis II > Careful Synthesis II to close out.

Got lucky with a few excellents in the right places, and since I was driving manual I could take advantage of these as well as the Tricks of the Trade procs. I probably went 10/15 on the hq, and on Saturday night ended up with my artisan's specs. Good stuff =)

Doesnt matter because I spent 500k to buy supplies to unlock the leatherworker master book and checked out the craftsmanship and control you need to have to make the sauron pieces.

I then said... oh man, food wont do it. Need to remeld my gear. I'm 30 short both ways.... I need to start melding III's and IVs on 20% chances. Then checked the prices of the crafting materia.... Looked at my measly 1.5 milion gil... Not gonna happen. Nope nope nope. Nope.... Nope.


Edited, Apr 7th 2014 2:53pm by Valkayree
#8 Apr 07 2014 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
I discovered that Great Strides stacks with Byrgot's Blessing. So if you are careful with your CP (need 81 left for this), you can do a Steady hand II, Hasty Touch X3, Great Strides, and Byregot's Blessing before finishing the synth for a HUGE final boost in quality.

Edited, Apr 7th 2014 12:13pm by Catwho
#9 Apr 07 2014 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
**
340 posts
The NQ Tomato soup can be exchanged for stuffs at the same guy you get your master books.

I think it's some crafting food.

Same thing with all the NQ synth that you get while going for the HQ to get your spectacle or main tool.

Also the same for the DoL material needed for new main tool, you get the +300 gp potion for them tho.
#10 Apr 07 2014 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
Catwho wrote:
I discovered that Great Strides stacks with Byrgot's Blessing. So if you are careful with your CP (need 81 left for this), you can do a Steady hand II, Hasty Touch X3, Great Strides, and Byregot's Blessing before finishing the synth for a HUGE final boost in quality.

Edited, Apr 7th 2014 12:13pm by Catwho


Oh yeah! Great strides is amazing! I should use it before byregots but im stoopid. Forgot to add that.
#11 Apr 07 2014 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
*
135 posts
361 Craftsmanship 352 control 376 CP (NQ Bouilibasse)

Comfort Zone, Inner Quiet, Ingenuity, Waste Not, Careful Synthesis II x 4, Steady Hand II, Waste Not, Basic Touch x4, Steady Hand II, Basic Touch x2, Innovation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Careful Synthesis II.

This assumes HQ mats. You can hit a proc'd ToT before Ingenuity or either Steady Hand II if you want to turn a Basic Touch into Standard, not much of a difference. This will regularly get you ~92% Quality, with a few 89 and few 100 as well. On my road to 50 Rose Gold Gears, I probably missed about 3-4 at most (given that I could HQ my own Nuggets 100% of the time, it was no big loss in gil).

This is assuming pre 2.2 melds, if you have re-melded then it's probably even easier to do.
#12 Apr 07 2014 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
ChoochZero wrote:
361 Craftsmanship 352 control 376 CP (NQ Bouilibasse)

Comfort Zone, Inner Quiet, Ingenuity, Waste Not, Careful Synthesis II x 4, Steady Hand II, Waste Not, Basic Touch x4, Steady Hand II, Basic Touch x2, Innovation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Careful Synthesis II.

This assumes HQ mats. You can hit a proc'd ToT before Ingenuity or either Steady Hand II if you want to turn a Basic Touch into Standard, not much of a difference. This will regularly get you ~92% Quality, with a few 89 and few 100 as well. On my road to 50 Rose Gold Gears, I probably missed about 3-4 at most (given that I could HQ my own Nuggets 100% of the time, it was no big loss in gil).

This is assuming pre 2.2 melds, if you have re-melded then it's probably even easier to do.


re-melded post 2.2? Plz 'splain? We have new melds? Hmm, I'll have to try your setup, looks promising.
#13 Apr 07 2014 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
*
135 posts
The exact thing you mentioned in your post about re-melding? These are old meld setups is what I meant on getting to my stats to be able to do this.
#14 Apr 07 2014 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
***
2,232 posts
I wish I could get back into crafting... I got so burned by what they did last time that I just don't care any more. I have all my crafts at 50 and all my AF's melded... I can make any 2 star in my sleep and could probably knock this stuff out with a little bit of effort... just don't care....
#15 Apr 08 2014 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
ChoochZero wrote:
The exact thing you mentioned in your post about re-melding? These are old meld setups is what I meant on getting to my stats to be able to do this.


Oh I meant remeld because while I followed the model up to the 1st or second overmeld, I cheaped out and put materia I's in until they became too expensive. I would remeld to add II's and III's instead.
#16 Apr 12 2014 at 11:41 PM Rating: Good
29 posts
Valkayree wrote:
But I did the usual comfort zone > Inner quiet, then Ingenuity 2 > Waste Not, then Careful Synthesis II a total of 3 times. Then I went steady hand II > Waste Not > Hasty Touch x 3 and repeated until I was within three clicks to completion, and used Byregot's Blessing > Careful Synthesis II > Careful Synthesis II to close out.


Just wanted to thank you personally for this. Got my Artisan Spectacles in no time building off this. THANK YOU!
#17 Apr 14 2014 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
***
2,550 posts
sramdi wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
But I did the usual comfort zone > Inner quiet, then Ingenuity 2 > Waste Not, then Careful Synthesis II a total of 3 times. Then I went steady hand II > Waste Not > Hasty Touch x 3 and repeated until I was within three clicks to completion, and used Byregot's Blessing > Careful Synthesis II > Careful Synthesis II to close out.


Just wanted to thank you personally for this. Got my Artisan Spectacles in no time building off this. THANK YOU!


Glad to hear that it worked for someone besides me! I like mine a lot although that craftsmanship / control requirement leap from being able to HQ 2 star to even being able to make 3 star is a little too much for me right now.
#18 Apr 28 2014 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
Who do you turn in the Sauteed Coeurl to? Is there a quest to start it all?
#19 Apr 29 2014 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
****
4,511 posts
Working with NQ materials only, this got me a rough 10% HQ rate. It still took me 134 NQ's before i managed to get 10 HQ's. The random number generator is strong in this one too @_@;

Still, i would have rather done this than do the alternative paths (which you still need to do for the tools)
____________________________
[XI] Surivere of Valefor
[XIV] Sir Surian Bedivere of Behemoth
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2401553/
#20 May 07 2014 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
****
5,745 posts
I just hit level 50 Culinarian last night, so I'm about to embark on this endeavor. In addition to the specs, I have a lot of crafting ahead of me since I already have the Master Recipe books for WVR and LTH and want to get their new mainhand eventually.

ChoochZero wrote:
Comfort Zone, Inner Quiet, Ingenuity, Waste Not, Careful Synthesis II x 4, Steady Hand II, Waste Not, Basic Touch x4, Steady Hand II, Basic Touch x2, Innovation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Careful Synthesis II.

I haven't tried coming up with my own rotation for the turn in items yet. But as I was reading back over the thread, I noticed this one. I don't know how much time you spent refining it, but I did notice that you have 4 durability consuming actions after each Waste Not. You could get away with only using 7 out of 8 Waste Not procs and be no worse off.

I'm having a hard time determining if you can get any tangible benefits from doing so and tweaking the above rotation. The 2nd waste not set could be re-ordered to Waste Not > Steady Hand II > Basic Touchx5. If it wasn't for the other Basic Touch left there, you could drop Steady Hand 2 to just Steady Hand. I'm wondering how much of a difference Ingenuity II makes over Ingenuity for the Careful Synthesis II. If it doesn't shave one Careful Synthesis II from the rotation, it's probably a waste of CP. Even if it does shave one step, if the limiting factor is CP and not durability, it wouldn't make sense to change Ingenuity to Ingenuity II.

Because the recipe level is so high, it's probably worth changing Innovation to Ingenuity, provided you have the 8 CP to spare.
#21 May 07 2014 at 12:09 PM Rating: Default
*
135 posts
NVM, doesn't work, lol.

Edited, May 7th 2014 1:10pm by ChoochZero
#22 May 08 2014 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
***
2,214 posts
I am currently working on my Armorers Master tool (I was able to get my blacksmiths faster than I expected).

My method has been to go with Reclaim, and Piece by piece.

I go with Comfort Zone, Reclaim, Inner Quiet, Waste Not II, and then spam Hasty Touch until I get to 50 durability left (always using Tricks of the trade when available).
@50 Durability, I trigger Manipulation, Comfort Zone, and Waste Not (II if I have the CP).
Once I have 25+ CP, I then trigger Piece by piece 3x (this will give 138, 92, and 62 progress), Then Careful Synthesis 2x later, I will be one action from completion.
(Still triggering Tricks of the trade whenever available).

Then I get to the interesting part. If I have over 100 CP at this point (which is pretty much a guaranteed HQ) I will go with Steady Hand II. I then use Hasty Touch until I get to 3 actions from complete (this is >20<35). I then break down the final set of actions based on the following:
>240 Full Reset (Manipulation, Comfort Zone, and Waste Not (II if I have the CP))
>135 Great Strides
>121 Innovation
>103 Advanced Touch
>87 Great Strides (if it is not up)
>73 Innovation (If it is not up)
<74 Hasty Touch
<56 Cry... (still use Hasty Touch)

After I go through that sliding scale of CP, I should be @15-20 Durability remaining. At this point, I will typically still have 56 CP left. Which is where I will I will use Great Strides, and Byregots Blessing.

If I do not have higher than an 81% chance of HQ, I will blow up the synth and take my chances with the Reclaim odds, than deal with an untradable NQ item. Other than the crystal burn, the strat has treated me well, and allows me a bit of control over the RNG (since, you can typically tell when a synth is going to burn you, so, with reclaim up, I ussually just fry that synth, and go again... Thereby not getting upset at bad RNG).
____________________________
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/729735/
#23 May 09 2014 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
*
135 posts
So....foolishly wasted about 60k HQing nuggets (could have just sold them) to get another pair of specs. My thinking was getting a pair for each of my crafters and glamoring it to the headpiece for that class (don't judge my OCD!). Yeah, specs are unique, that is SO dumb, there is absolutely no reason for them to be unique.

To add insult to injury, you can glamor it to look like anything else. So since SE made them unique, I can't actually have my chef hat on my Culinarian and do the same for each class BUT my Goldsmith can glamor it to look like the chef hat. Completely backwards.

I don't care about the lost money, it's my fault for derping so hard and not checking specs first but seriously, this is so dumb. I know it's minor but it just shouldn't be like this.
#24 May 21 2014 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
****
5,745 posts
After trying to analyze a couple different rotations posted by people with better craftsmanship, control and CP than me, I finally decided to bite the bullet and just give Spicy Tomato Relish a try.

My stats were 348 Craftsmanship, 332 Control and 345 CP (379 with NQ Bouillabaisse). It's basically the stats needed to (100% HQ 2 Star stuff without Comfort Zone (Alchemy is the only DoH I don't have leveled).

I was able to get HQ Dzemael Tomatoes from the MB and made my own HQ Table Salt and HQ Dark Vinegar. I couldn't find any HQ Cinnamon on the MB, so I stuck with NQ, which cost me about 101 quality. So I was starting with 2,527 out of 5,257 quality.

Instead of trying to follow a rotation, I just did the usual SH2 + Hasty Touch while using Tricks of the Trade whenever I got a Good proc with the goal of using Ingenuity II + Great Strides + Byregot's Blessing at the end. I was surprised at how consistently I was able to HQ the recipe even with relying on the much hated RNG. Out of 10 tries, only once did I not reach 100% quality. And that one attempt, I got up to 89% and still got the HQ. I didn't bother with Waste Not at all. I just used Master's Mend II when I hit 20/80 durability.

The one attempt where I only got up to 89%, I believe I only reached 7 stacks of Inner Quiet (well, the number 7 on the IQ icon, since a 1 doesn't actually give you a boost to control). Whenever I got up to 8 stacks, the final combination of Ing2 + GS + BB was enough to push me up to 100% quality.
#25 May 22 2014 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
ChoochZero wrote:
So....foolishly wasted about 60k HQing nuggets (could have just sold them) to get another pair of specs. My thinking was getting a pair for each of my crafters and glamoring it to the headpiece for that class (don't judge my OCD!). Yeah, specs are unique, that is SO dumb, there is absolutely no reason for them to be unique.

To add insult to injury, you can glamor it to look like anything else. So since SE made them unique, I can't actually have my chef hat on my Culinarian and do the same for each class BUT my Goldsmith can glamor it to look like the chef hat. Completely backwards.

I don't care about the lost money, it's my fault for derping so hard and not checking specs first but seriously, this is so dumb. I know it's minor but it just shouldn't be like this.



I grabbed a pair of Pince-Nez off the MB for cheap and they work pretty good with most crafts classes. Least it looks more appropriate for my BSM/ARM than a pair of thin glasses. In my CRP gear I look like a fancy Beatin Smiley: clown


PS Nice XIVdb integration ZAM....!

Edited, May 22nd 2014 8:58am by Hallertau
#26 May 23 2014 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
*
135 posts
I actually have those but I guess I'm one of the small minority who actually likes the Weaver hat and most of the crafter AF hats.

I just don't see why it's Unique at all when it's Untradeable. Maybe I'm somehow missing the advantage I would gain by having multiple glasses other than glamoring them.
« Previous 1 2
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 281 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (281)