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Can you get atmas out of order on your list?

Also, how do you know when you get an atma? Where does the notification appear?

Once you get an atma, is it crossed off of your list, or do you just need to remember that you have it already?

The help text in the quest says "Formidable Foe". This makes me think it's boss fates only.... time will tell I guess.

Since it drops into your inventory, I guess you would just have to check your inventory for what you have. I'm guessing it goes into the key items tab. Does that sound right?

I read on the official forum that someone got an atma from the "Hare" FATE in North Shroud, and that's just a run-of-the-mill "kill this herd of mobs" FATE, so don't think it's limited to boss-style FATEs.

Edited, Mar 28th 2014 10:21am by Thayos

Ah. That may be why no list is popping up, because it's truely just ANY fate. I wonder if there is any substance to the rumor that you can only advance 1 book each week. Ah well, not going to effect me for awhile.

I know one FC mate spent 6 hours on this with no drop, completing some 200 FATES in differing Zones. And yes with his Zenith equipped the whole time. Meanwhile another FC mate took about 15 hours straight and finished it already. Wow. Guess I can ask him about that 1-book-per-week cap later tonight.

Hey, news flash everyone! Apparently Dynamis was changed in 2007 rather than 2011. Theo I never picked up my Duelist Chapeau until after the changes, I know what I'm talking about.

Dynamis changed late in FFXI's life cycle, we are EARLY in FFXIV's life cycle. As people insist on drawing comparisons, I compared it to Old Dynamis. Because, realisticly, people are ******** about a game that's pre-dynamis, pre-Zilart. Yet that gets conveniently overlooked when they want to bash FFXIV.




And?

My statement wasn't a complaint, why the hell are you taking it for one? Fact of Life, anything done in repetition is a grind.

Being a long time FF fan before they even went to MMOs, I'm used to it. Some people don't seen to be. That's fine.



*eyebrow* Cause, you know, every player has played until launch. And every player has gone an explored every fate in every zone instead of following the path of specific zones everyone layed out for the best leveling path... and that's of course before Leves and Dungeons became more profitable for Exp.




For someone who just, in the same post, ******* at me about using dated information, you sure seem to hold a double standard to yourself.

FATE issues were a 2.0 issues. Now, as you accurately claim, SE boosted Dungeon exp (and also Leve, and Guildhest Exp, they also boosted Guildhest first-time bonus so they apply to each class individually rather than the character.) So FATEs weren't nearly as in vogue as they were before, to the point where SE had to make adjustments so that certain FATEs would scale down to lower number of participants.

So yes, a lot of FATEs outside the bottle-neck zones were being overlooked - intentionally or otherwise. Regardless of what your or other people's opinions of FATEs are, if they're abandoned, it's dead content - from a business standpoint, that's bad for business.

Now, if people want to follow the Zodiac Path (Note, they don't have to, there are more weapons at i100 and above you can acquire) they're going to have to buck-up and do FATEs.

Moreover, when they start getting the Myth tome Books, they're going to still go back and do more dated content over again.

Why is this a smart idea?

It keeps people cycling through content, keeping it populated and enabling new players to participate in this content without suffering from the intentionally top-heavy population we have. Newer players will be playing side by side with veterans as they progress up the levels, from everything from Dungeons to FATES.

You may not like it, but it's a smart decision by SE to keep content relevant and populated. Complain about the semantics, overlooked, neglected, whatever. It's content that people weren't populating that now, thanks to being relevant to an endgame quest path, will have people working at, for at least a while longer now.

As I said on the Official Boards. I wish they'd make FATEs more interesting, but I doubt it will happen because it'll likely step on Leves and Guildhests if so. But one can hope.

Edited, Mar 28th 2014 2:00pm by Hyrist

Um... not in the Dynamis I was in.

Currency was sold for hourglass, you bought your currency in. So grinding Dynamis mobs went to the most wealthy. You didn't make any progress unless you worked twice as hard for it. (Some groups were kinder/luckier.) Most times, you were just in Dyna for the Relic Armor pieces and clears. (or the DKP.)

But I get your meaning about the randomness thing. Though, some people have already completed their Atma weapons inside 8-15 hours of dedication.

I'm not to keen on the whole 'droprate' thing. I'd rather prefer it be a matter of 'clear all the fates' or 'this many fates' in stated zones once, get your Atma, type deal.


Edited, Mar 28th 2014 3:16pm by Hyrist

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As long as the drop rate is an average of like 1 atma per 3 hours, then this quest is already way less grindy than most stuff in FFXI, and it wouldn't even be close.

Thanks for this. It really alleviates any despair I might have that this could be a lot of time wasted with nothing to show for it.

Empyrean weapons were a lot more random. And grindier. So random. Much pain. Very grind.

Unless you brought a full party with a WAR, a SAM, and a NIN (in addition to your WHM, BLM, and THF) then there was always a chance you'd be missing the proc needed for red to get your pop item KI. Since the big bad NMs required that you crank out dozens of those KI pop items, it would get super irritating when you didn't get them after hours of work.

Colorless Souls were the worst. The KI needed for the pop item was a random conversion of a Tier II demilune Abyssite to a Tier III one, off a NM that was timed at a 15 minute pop, and then once you got a Tier III to pop the boss, it was on an hour timer. And the competition was friggin insane because Souls were used for both Dardaubla and Ochain, the harp and shield, i.e. the two best Empyrean weapons everyone wanted.

It took me about a year to finish Dharp playing casually. It still takes people grinding daily a month or two.

Thanks! And now those seals buy the items you need to use to craft the materials needed to get your crafter book, tool, and gear! Also they help level up your free company, which is useful if you guys arent rank 8.

I needed to keep these things in my head or I too would get discouraged.

Might have opened the floodgate. I had a couple of pretty good conversations, people who were making very intelligent replies, even if I disagreed with them, on the Official boards, but post limit was hitting.

So... I invited them over. >.> Who knows. Maybe we can snag a few more good people over to Zam. I'd like that. Intelligent conversation without trying to make your argument in a limited number of posts a day.

What a novel concept. *wistful sigh*

There are many options to choose from if you want to get a better weapon in this game. Zodiac quest is one of them, and it does fulfill a hole in this game that many people have been asking for.

The fact there's variety of things to do has not gone anywhere. Pick your preference.