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Edited, Mar 13th 2014 8:26pm by preludes

Edited, Mar 13th 2014 8:27pm by preludes

Yeah, all the people having fun despite the things you listed.

I feel like we're playing totally different games, I still LOVE this game and can't get enough of it.

This thread..

I still to this day, don't see the point of hanging around forums for games you don't like. If it's as bad as you make it out to be, find another game with all the things you enjoy. If you guys are still subbed, then you have mental issues. Every MMO I've quit or console game I've stopped playing, I stopped posting on their forums. If the interest isn't there, then why bother.

Must be gold dust when the games are bad and people like prelude still drool and unquestioningly open their wallets for them.

Disclaimer: I'm a *********. I shouldn't have even hit Post. But awell. Here I go not ignoring someone on my ignore list because I can actually see their posts. x.x



Housing is filling in nicely, actually. The exorbitant prices did exactly what the producers said it was designed to do. The pricing scale dropped enabled people to save up towards their goal house to without all of the plots being bought up instantly, and now a small house is in the 2 million range.



This a shortsighted complaint. As with the housing, this issue is a stall tactic designed specificly to keep progress balance between players. As was described in the previous interview, from Yoshida's own mouth:

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Yoshida:
And I understand how they feel. They're thinking "this part of the game is actually fun, so why would you make it so we can't get the item we want?" However, let's say if we try to control the distribution of rare items not by a lockout, but via drop rates instead. If you do this, then the game will simply become one-sided favoring those who can play longer.

4Gamer:
So it's a choice between having the drop rate being 1% but unlimited, versus getting a 100% drop only once each week. And having to decide which one serves the players better. It must be a hard question to answer.

Yoshida:
And having a drop rate of 1% does not necessarily mean you'll get 1 guaranteed drop out of 100 tries. It's simply an expected rate. So for example if you have a player who does nothing but play 24 hours a day, it can actually be a pretty high drop rate for that person. But then if you end up with a ton of these rare items in the game, it would cause problems with the game balance too, so then you'd end up having to make adjustments, so you reduce the drop rate to something like 0.1% because there are too many of these items, and now you just made it impossible for people who don't have a lot of time to play to get that item.

It does not take much to gear another class appropriately to have entry-level endgame gear. My Dragoon has been sitting on a completed CT set for a while now and I could very easily be lotting on another set, and I started CT kind a late. And by now, I could have had multiple classes sitting in Darklight if I so chose. This is counting one character and only one character, I have another in mostly CT gear as well on a separate lot table.

The class system aids in the flexibitly of availability for the characters. Only the topmost levels of Bahamut's coil are on a participation lock-down, and that's because that's the absolutely highest level of endgame right now. As we progress past that point, the locks on those sections get released.

IMO, it's better than the drop-rate issue. It ultimately stalls the player less, and allows them to focus on more than just themselves more. As the Class system works into more of its potential with more Jobs to branch from the current Classes, this flexibility is likely to be very fun, as is the ability to shift gears on my Arcanist is.



Show's that you're not crafting. Crafting is still the most stable method of making Gil in this game, and they are the primary provider for all housing matters. They will also become the bypass for entry level into endgame if players want to get a leg-in for the current level of endgame.

And, if you hate instanced fights, get out of the game, now. Hush up and never come back. You've got no reason to be here when that's very clearly the focal point of this game. Will it change as things go on? Donno. But honestly them's the breaks. I enjoy the instances, so I make no excuses for them. Each fight feels different enough to me to be entertained and the lockouts really do prevent burnout on some level.

Then again, I'm one of those kinds that like to push to improve my execution in a fight through practice. Especially if I'm running it multiple times. Repetition doesn't bother me in these cases, especially in the company of friends. I find it odd that people are less forgiving of this in an age where the most play game in history is a MOBA, where people are doing essentially the exact same thing over and over again.

Also this argument about grind, and the argument against lockouts, is a double standard.



This even registered on your radar? The wet effect is a nice addition that's optional. It can be shut off if you don't like the effect. Yet, you insult it because it's what - not dripping enough? It sounds like you're fishing for things to hate.


See above.



Oh Regale me your stories of your 8 core six terabite processor and your fifty Gigbite graphics card capable of rendering quantum physics. [/joking sarcasim]
Meanwhile those actually in the PS4 beta have been giving positive feedback on how it's been running. Those who switched from PS3 has noted a marked performance improvement. Which means the PS4 serves as a good medium for players seeking to play the game on a console - a great method in for those not wanting the hassle or expense of a top-of-the-line PC, and SE a good in with the console market.



Can't really tell what you're insulting here. The fact that FFXI's system is archaic or that FFXIV dosen't have data centers in each region.
The first makes you sound like an elitist prick, the second makes you sound like an entitled brat. You have no idea the expense involved in hosting, manning, and running a new data-center is. Not to mention that the Datacenter has already been proven not to be the latency issue you're probably really griping about.



Yes, something important.

You forgot to criticize yourself before going towards a game with such a bitter and negative approach.

Are all these things you attack so critically important to your entertainment? And if so, why do you tolerate them elsewhere? In the end I feel that for many people, some time of self-reflection and then some time interacting with the community that's actually entertained and invested in this game, with an open mind and insight, would do so much for increasing one's enjoyment for this game than anything you can point at.

I cannot shake the impression that a lot of this anger, not just for Preludes, but a lot of others as well, sounds like a lot of self justification to defend the fact that they do not like something that others enjoy. As if they fear being ostrasized by a community that they may actually desire to be a part of. But this is just one of many theories.

Another, more positive light, may be just a frustration of seeking a game that matches their ideals, going from game to game and seeing unrealized potential to meet those ideals, and then feeling the state of betrayal. To that I'd say that game designes don't make games to spite people. They try to appeal to a vision of a game that ideally, they themselves will enjoy. That does not always line up with everyone's perspective of what is a good game.

The success measure for the game was 400k subscribers. We have more than that active in the game on a daily basis. It's fairly certain the the game has found its niche and is comfortable with it. As it grows, the potential for having a wider niche can also grow. Right now, there's a wide magin for error to play with and I feel it's fine to have some people disagree with the direction the game is going or on the execution of some of their efforts. It's a continually developing beast after all.

But blatant disrespect? That's poor personal character.

ITT: preludes makes LucasNox look like a White Knight.

Hate to break it to you, but the PS4 is hardly an awesome machine when you place it side-by-side an "average" gamer's PC. Not because the PS4 sucks, but because the PS4 is simply built to be a cheap alternative to PC Gaming. They basically took a $400 computer, slapped it in a proprietary case with proprietary OS, and called it a "Console". In fact I'd be willing to bet that if you cracked its BIOS, you could probably even install Windows7/8 on it if you wanted to.

How strong do you think a $400 computer is going to be? Why yes, it is going to be just marginally better than a Walmart PC. Because that's basically what it is.

My Desktop computer that I've had for a year now, beats the PS4's specs quite easily, and I run FFXIV at 60+ FPS full-time except for the occasional FATE or something going on nearby then I might dip down to 50 or so.

Smooth as butter.

A $400 Walmart PC? Not so much.

Edited, Mar 15th 2014 11:04am by Lyrailis

Edited, Mar 15th 2014 11:05am by Lyrailis

This.

We're all used to next-gen game consoles upping the ante on gaming hardware, but this generation is the first to use somewhat outdated technology. Cool story about the struggles of this console generation, for those who are interested: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/09/console-crisis/

A quote from that story: "As one veteran games developer, who has worked in the industry for more than a decade and who pointed me in the direction of the leaked NPD data, put it: “The PS4/XB1 is the first generation to have technology that is worse than what is already out there. There are 2+ year old GPUs that outperform these boxes, and even budget GPUs releasing now in the $150 range outclass these machines. If you buy the highest end GPU on the market now, you have almost 3x the performance of these machines, and we are at the start of the generation. This is unprecedented."

As for Prelude's post, he deleted everything before I could read it for myself. Pretty sure I get the gist of it, though.

Loving this game! Going running, and can't wait to log in later. Leveling up lancer to unlock a skill for my bard!

I'm going to take a page out of FilthMcNastys book and just: