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So I'm a legacy player and I transferred to ragnarok as someone told me it is more social...

Until now it seems that the game is completely deserted...

I know I can't expect the pre-abyssea ffxi social environment It once were, but wow, it seems like I'm playing sing player.
I really like to have a chatty free company/linkshell or whatever motivating me to play as it once was

I keep getting invited to linkshells, but after a hello, I get completely ignored.

Sorry if this post sound like a rant- please explain me how I should play nowadays.
And as you are at it- anybody from ragnarok with a NA friendly/chatty FC wants to invite I'd be glad.

My advice, try and get into an FC with mumble,Teamspeak and/or vent. My FC is very chatty (at times) just like my FFXI days but nowadays the best social we have is when we are on Teamspeak. I can't speak for the server yo are on but I can't see how different it would be the as opposed to Balmung.

"LFG 51 DRG."
"LFG 48 SMN."
"13/18 CoP 1-3 (Looking for others.) (please assist.)"
"BUY FFXI GILZ 5% DISCOUNT UNTILURMAM"

Oh yeah, really, really social. "Chat" in FFXI consisted of either lines of squigglies from the JP players, gil spam (HI2U SUSANGILZ), or looking for party. Or, depending on the day, you had people cussing each other out in Garlaige/Nest/Tree/etc. when they'd camp on top of each other. So, pretty much the same thing as every other MMO except in FFXIV you don't have to sit in a city waiting on a party invite and all of the sudden it's "Single Player"?

The amount of rose-colored false images of FFXI people come up with is insane.

Your community in FFXI came from staring at people's random town gear (because they couldn't get into a party and didn't have anything else to do) and your linkshell. Trying to imagine and pretend it was anything further is laughable.


EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I loved the game and still log in sometimes to tinker around. But I'm not going to ******** myself and pretend that it was any more social than any other MMO outside of forced interaction.

Edited, Mar 1st 2014 3:52am by Viertel

Please speak for yourself. Balmung is both active and social. Completely ignoring your typical crowds at , Quarrymill, Costa De Soll, Dragonhead, Reverants Toll and Wineport. You can generally find people everywhere.

Now about the social aspect. What you call social, I call noise. There's no reason why shout channel should be flooded, and to be honest, the same sort of shout calls for people to go to party finder and join groups are still very similar to FFXI's shouts in the same bottleneck places.

If you're talking about casual conversation, that's what linkshells and free companies are for, or casual conversations in Parties, Be they fates, Duty Finder (you'd be amazed how many people you run into from your same server. ) Or even just striking them up in the hubs.

To top that off, my server in particular is active with another form of socialization: Roleplaying. You never know when you might come across a gathering of people working to play out a scene or just act as their characters would, and it's entertaining to watch, or at the very least adds life to the game itself.

Oh, and yes, FFXI was pretty terrible to me. Just because I grew to like to abuse, doesn't disqualify it from being an abusive relationship.
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OP, I can't speak for your experiences of population because I'm not on Ragnarok. But look at the above hubs I mentioned as well as inside the City States. If Balmung is any indication, those hubs will have people shouting for recruiting in Linkshells and Free Companies as well as parties for FATE/Coil and other such activities. Go ahead and see if any of those are to your fancy. As a point of advice, do not accept a blind invite, and if the group has a website, go visit it, it may give you a good idea as to what sort of group you're looking to join ahead of time.

Other than that, don't be afraid to engage people. Some people are simply keeping to themselves politely and can often join in on a conversation if one is sparked and seems open.

Aside from trolls typical of the internet, my social experiences in FFXIV, especially within its roleplaying community, have been positive. I hope you manage to find your own niche as well.

Well, I most certainly remember a different FFXI than you do. A game where people would generally progress to level 10 and then learn to communicate with other players from then on in order to progress. With no matchmaking services or automated grouping. Technically you could just go through the party seek menu and start inviting people if you wanted to, but "blind invites" with no communication were actually laughed at! Asking your group if they wanted you to find a replacement as a courtesy actually became a common occurrence. Like minded people might get together and form static groups, for things like experience points or completing a storyline. I can't even count the number of times I'd say "hey, I remember leveling x with you while you were leveling y a few months back!" or to have someone say it back to me.

I wouldn't say FFXI was perfect, and a game like it certainly has its disadvantages, but a lack of community was never, ever something I would have attributed to the game. Although I'm sure I'm not the most well versed MMO player, to date, it's still the strongest online community I've had the pleasure of being a part of.

Your memories of FFXI are different than mine.



You're right... If you LFG, you might, if you were very lucky after God knows how many hours, you'd see this in your window:

HerpDerp>>(Hello!) (Party) (Blah Blah Zone) xx-xx 5/6 OK?

That's if you're lucky. If you're not lucky, well, you wouldn't see anything because you could LFG for hours and never get a group at all, or see enough to make a group yourself. Or you'd get told (No, thanks) if you try to invite a tank or healer without most of the group already ready.



Usually a linkshell, or if you were a very privileged job (NIN, RDM, RNG pre-nerf, SAM when they were popular, etc). Ask how many DRKs and DRGs got invited to static groups, or worse, BLMs during the latter months before Abyssea came out. And then, how very few people wanted PLDs for anything, back when people did IT++ mobs, it was all NIN and Utsusemi tanking whenever possible. If you got lucky you got a desperate group who'd invite you as a PLD if they couldn't find any NINs LFG at the time.

And then came missions. God Forbid you ever needed a Rank Mission or something done and you didn't have a Linkshell willing to carry you through it. You could be sitting in Jeuno for hours upon hours upon days trying to find a group for that kind of thing. That, or Limit Break quests.

How did you know my name from my days in FFXI?

Why in the hell people sat around for hours waiting for someone to take them by the hand and lead them to adventure... beyond me. If you weren't actively making your own groups then you were doinitwrong. Judging by the amount of carry you seem to think FFXI required, I'm almost positive

This antisocial behavior you mention is actually by design. I mean, some of us could have guessed that already as it's been happening in modern MMOs for years, but there's no need to guess when the developers are actively open about it. This quote is from a recent interview, when asked what the attraction of FFXIV ARR was.