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#1 Feb 23 2014 at 12:46 PM Rating: Default
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what is tte il of the allagan equipment drops in Coil (i know they used to be 90 but i forgot is the changed or not) also what about allgan weapons, extreme primals weapons/accessories and ultima hard accessories?

Lastly if there ANY reason to set foot in CT if you have full Il90 myth tome armor and relic +1?
#2 Feb 23 2014 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
Can't answer the first part, but you can always work on getting CT for other classes since it'd be pretty difficult to have full Myth gear for all five possible gear combos.
#3 Feb 23 2014 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
what is tte il of the allagan equipment drops in Coil (i know they used to be 90 but i forgot is the changed or not) also what about allgan weapons, extreme primals weapons/accessories and ultima hard accessories?

Lastly if there ANY reason to set foot in CT if you have full Il90 myth tome armor and relic +1?


allagen equipment ilvl 90
allagen weapons ilvl 95
ex primals weapon and accessories ilvl 90
ultima hard ilvl 80

you would go into ct if you have more then once character. if you have 2 or 3 or 4 different jobs leveled chances are near 100% that you will need the ilvl 80 items form ct which are head and shoulders above darklight gear.
#4 Feb 23 2014 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
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or you could get full myth gear especially in a few weeks when myth weekly cap is gone thus making ct obselete since it only give one piece a week
#5 Feb 23 2014 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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CT for your other classes... or if you want gear for vanity purposes
#6DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Feb 23 2014 at 11:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol got sub def for asking a legitimate question.
#7 Feb 24 2014 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
lol got sub def for asking a legitimate question.

not bashing the game, "whining" trolling or any of the usual stuff im accused of... yup if i ever needed proof that ppl on this board are out to get me, i just found it

Since we have now reached the whining portion of the thread, what's with "il" as an abbreviation with ilvl? Is it really too much to type two more letter?
#8 Feb 24 2014 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
lol got sub def for asking a legitimate question.

not bashing the game, "whining" trolling or any of the usual stuff im accused of... yup if i ever needed proof that ppl on this board are out to get me, i just found it


Here's what it is. You ask "loaded" questions.

You sound like you're asking a question, but in reality you've often reached a conclusion ahead of time (in this case, running CT is pointless) and you're asking us to prove you otherwise. You're putting anyone who answers your question on the defensive before they even start to answer the question.

Instead of starting with a conclusion ("I think CT is now pointless") and framing your question around it, think more carefully about what you're really asking. Or if it's even a question at all. This could have been a very good topic for discussion had it been framed as just that - a discussion on the relative merits of running CT if you're already fully geared on your main class.
#9 Feb 24 2014 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
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svlyons wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
lol got sub def for asking a legitimate question.

not bashing the game, "whining" trolling or any of the usual stuff im accused of... yup if i ever needed proof that ppl on this board are out to get me, i just found it

Since we have now reached the whining portion of the thread, what's with "il" as an abbreviation with ilvl? Is it really too much to type two more letter?



i used "il" cause thats what i see in shouts "il90 xxx looking for xxx {please invite me} or "looking for xxx for xxx must be il80+" etc etc no one seems to use ilvl in shouts so i figured il was standard/more common then ilvl sooo thats what i used here
#10DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Feb 24 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Youre absolutely right, before I asked that question I came to the conclusion that, both CT and Coil are (or at least will be) useless when myth cap is removed and I can just spam a dungeon all day (or week) to get a full set of il90 relic armor and forgo CT (which is il80) or coil for allagan sine theyd have no point anymore) well allagan is arguable so I wont 100% say allagan would have no point, especially since the weekly restriction from coil will be removed too, but I stand by what I said about CT)
#11 Feb 24 2014 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
It's way too early to even discuss which content will be pointless, or what "pointless" will even mean.

For example, Wanderer's Palace is pointless from a gear point of view, yet people still run it all the time.
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#12 Feb 24 2014 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
Just because the weekly cap is being lifted doesn't automatically mean that everyone's pool of tomestones is going to be filled up instantly with all the tomes they could ever spend. I have never once hit the myth cap in a single week.

I think Crystal Tower is still going to be a prime source of obtaining myth since it's 50 myth and a good chunk of philo for about an hour's worth of work.
#13 Feb 24 2014 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just because the weekly cap is being lifted doesn't automatically mean that everyone's pool of tomestones is going to be filled up instantly with all the tomes they could ever spend. I have never once hit the myth cap in a single week.


Yep, great point.

At most, I just run the duty roulette once a day. I often hit my myth cap around Friday or Saturday... so even on a good week, I may finish with just 600 to 650 tomes.

There are far more players like me (and many more who don't play as often as I do) than there are hardcore players who rush to cap everything.
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#14 Feb 24 2014 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
Just because the weekly cap is being lifted doesn't automatically mean that everyone's pool of tomestones is going to be filled up instantly with all the tomes they could ever spend. I have never once hit the myth cap in a single week.

I think Crystal Tower is still going to be a prime source of obtaining myth since it's 50 myth and a good chunk of philo for about an hour's worth of work.

I could get all 5 pieces of visible armor for 1 job from only 105 runs of WP. That's only ~30 hours with a decent group, per job. And there's only 9 jobs!

Then there's belt and accessories, it's only about 15 hours of runs for them, and there's only 5 sets!

Pretty sure I'll have full myth items in the first two days after the patch.

But seriously, Labyrinth of Ancients takes way too long in setup and running to be worthwhile for the overgeared, leaving mostly undergeared to run it, leading to longer runs and more wipes, leading to less people wanting to do it. I haven't heard what items will be in the next phase of Crystal Tower, but they might make it worth running.
#15DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Feb 24 2014 at 5:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) umm daily roulette high lvl is a minimum of 70 tomes a day... if you take 30 mins a day doin just that you easily hit 450 before the end of the week....
#16 Feb 24 2014 at 5:39 PM Rating: Excellent
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Catwho wrote:
Just because the weekly cap is being lifted doesn't automatically mean that everyone's pool of tomestones is going to be filled up instantly with all the tomes they could ever spend. I have never once hit the myth cap in a single week.

I think Crystal Tower is still going to be a prime source of obtaining myth since it's 50 myth and a good chunk of philo for about an hour's worth of work.



umm daily roulette high lvl is a minimum of 70 tomes a day... if you take 30 mins a day doin just that you easily hit 450 before the end of the week....


I don't play every day.

A lot of people don't play every day.
#17 Feb 24 2014 at 6:02 PM Rating: Default
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Catwho wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Catwho wrote:
Just because the weekly cap is being lifted doesn't automatically mean that everyone's pool of tomestones is going to be filled up instantly with all the tomes they could ever spend. I have never once hit the myth cap in a single week.

I think Crystal Tower is still going to be a prime source of obtaining myth since it's 50 myth and a good chunk of philo for about an hour's worth of work.



umm daily roulette high lvl is a minimum of 70 tomes a day... if you take 30 mins a day doin just that you easily hit 450 before the end of the week....


I don't play every day.

A lot of people don't play every day.




i know a lotta ppl dont play extensive mounts of time every (theyd be considered hardcore) but ppl definitely can devote 30 mins a day to it.... it is casual like that after all unlike ffxi where playing 30 minutes would accomplish absolutely nothing
#18 Feb 24 2014 at 8:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's not 30 minutes, it's 15-40 minutes wait time for a possibility of a 30 minute or less run. Half the time you get something tanks and healers don't want to do so they bail instead of trying. Story line I've never had anything other than the two long runs, so that's 30-40 minutes unless you actually get 7 good people, which is rare because a lot of tanks/healers (yes other classes too, but mainly these) will troll and get cannons wiped out on purpose or agro mobs you don't have to fight and then go "oops, didn't know) yet are very well geared with stuff that requires teamwork/experience.
#19 Feb 24 2014 at 9:49 PM Rating: Default
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Perrin wrote:
It's not 30 minutes, it's 15-40 minutes wait time for a possibility of a 30 minute or less run. Half the time you get something tanks and healers don't want to do so they bail instead of trying. Story line I've never had anything other than the two long runs, so that's 30-40 minutes unless you actually get 7 good people, which is rare because a lot of tanks/healers (yes other classes too, but mainly these) will troll and get cannons wiped out on purpose or agro mobs you don't have to fight and then go "oops, didn't know) yet are very well geared with stuff that requires teamwork/experience.




correction... youre half right.. its not just 30 mins if youre a DPS then yes add the DF wait to that.... a healer or tank however generally gets insta pops...... if not youre not waiting 5 minutes for sure.. as for ppl leaving when its a dungeon they dont want.. thats what? 5% of the time? only dungeon i really see that done in is Sirius... so thats 1 dungeons outta how many? Surely you know how probability works
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