Zam's interview with Yoshi at SonyFollow

You seem to be getting the exact opposite message out of it as i am...

They're saying it's not allowed, that ofcourse it isnt allowed even, and they have to take an official standpoint to say they have to decline any tool that's proposed to the development team as an inquiry if it's allowed or not.

They mention that you cant have these tools, and if you talk about them (not being discrete), you will get banned. Period.

He basically says that he knows that people like and use add-ons. He then says that SE can't "officially" condone it, but your fine if you use tools discreetly. tools that allow you to cheat don't count, you will get banned. That's what i got from it.

I understand that the devs have a lot on their plate right now, but I don't think it would be too much to ask for at least a 'look forward to it' response about parsers.

The main focus of the interview was PS4 beta and feedback. Why not just ask for feedback on what tools players want and implement them yourself SE? They clearly want to have tighter control over 3rd party tools and that's probably the easiest way to do it. The details about playing on Vita were really vague, but I'm interested to see what they're able to do with that.

The only thing I don't like about the interview is PS3 users having to purchase the game for PS4. PC players already have the capability to experience the game as it's meant to be and I think console players should be allowed to upgrade for free or at least have their cost reduced to reflect the difference in quality.

Interview is 9/10. Lindsay however, 12/10

Oh and as far as the 'fight club' attitude regarding apps, they're kinda bound to that. Yoshi's "we're all adults here" comment I took to mean as "You're not supposed to use apps officially, but if you're found to be using them responsibly then we will take no action against you". It's a little difficult to cover the spectrum of tools people can and will create to 'enhance' their gameplay so laying the rules out would be difficult. There are 3rd party apps that don't violate ToS from a moral standpoint, but they access information that SE doesn't want you to access. There's just too much grey area to cover when you open people up to manipulating your software.

Edited, Feb 12th 2014 6:35am by FilthMcNasty

The following is said:



AKA: this is not considered a hack.



AKA: Using a tool to judge a player's entire performance is something he doesn't agree with because skill >> numbers on a parser.



In other words, hacking and botting are not the same as using a parser.



In other words, do not insult another player about their DPS with numbers from your parser. Keep the fact that you use the tool to yourself. If you belittle another player, we will take action.

Finally,



This is obvious. They cannot endorse one tool they have not developed over other tools. If they were to endorse one, they would have to endorse them all. They do not have control over what these applications do for the most part and cannot monitor them to make sure there is no violation.

None of this is a surprise and has confirmed what we learned from the thread on the OF.



Overall, predlues = destroyed.

What a wonderful start to my day. :) TY for posting, Wint!

Edited, Feb 12th 2014 7:13am by HitomeOfBismarck

No it isn't, it's a parser.

You sir are clueless and lieing.

FFXIVapp is a parser not a cheat tool
SS proof of the gm convo?
And ps3 users are at 0 disadvantage to not being able to parse, as a pc person can parse them if they so desire, but parsing in and of it self offers no benefit other then figuring out how to improve your own dd, something that can also be achieving by reading reddit/blue gartr/these forums for optimal combo orders.

I get the feeling that preludes was booted from a group for having bad dps and now its his personal vendetta to prevent parsers which is so lol is ridiculous. Every mmo has them and no one in any mmo has been banned for using them...

I have people who i blisted for harassment/spam/gil and they are now marked as 'delete' so theres my proof there. You see people come to the forums all the time to post OMG i got banned for no reason, and no one claims to have been banned for using a parser.

Where? I really want to know so I can prevent them from being loaded as much as possible. The only plugins I know of are the ones I make which are mostly open source on my personal github account and the twintania plugin.

If people actually watched the video, Yoshi's demeanor when answering about plugins like "parsers" was, "we'll let those slide." Officially he can't or won't condone their use. The answer was, at best, ambiguous. Be descrete was his saying.

However he was adamant and completely serious when he was talking about bots and hacking tools. He said those are "definitely not good."

Despite the ambiguity, it seems pretty clear to me.

HitomeOfBismarck wins.

Agreed. I fell like parsers are like the little heart monitors that runners wear to give them feedback so they can make the necessary adjustments to help them improve their performance. I'm on PS3 so I can't use them anyway. But if I think I did good and someone tells me, well... you were last there buddy... Its time to step it up coach.

Edited, Feb 13th 2014 10:51am by Valkayree

The only add-on of the ffxiv app that I would consider cheating is the twintania tracker. that is really, really, borderline cheating. you don't have to pay attention for divebombs because it counts it down for you when you have to move. it even tells you when death sentence is coming and have to top the tank off. twintania tracker takes any kind of reflex or anticipation skills out of the equation. the twister countdown doesn't seem to be accurate although that might just be because I don't have it set correctly. Twisters isn't hard to deal with so that doesn't matter too much.

I do realize that that add-on doesn't do anymore than use the information given to you...but the game doesn't count down for me exactly the time I have to dodge at or tell me 10 seconds in advance that I have to make sure the tank is topped off. I think this add-on is cheating because you don't have to pay as much attention to the game whereas someone without this add-on has to work more to win.