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#1 Feb 10 2014 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
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After a long time of waiting, I purchased FFXIV for my PC, and my PC is running it at 8 FPS on the lowest functions. I also only have a laptop. Am I screwed?
#2 Feb 10 2014 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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What are the specs of the laptop?
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#3 Feb 11 2014 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Rather what are the specs of your laptop AND desktop? Did you try the benchmark tool first? If so what kinda score did it give you?
#4 Feb 11 2014 at 7:26 AM Rating: Excellent
Make sure you have the latest drivers installed... My brand new gaming laptop ran it at 8 FPS and it turned out that they hadn't pre-installed the nVidia driver, so it was trying to run on an Intel 4000 >_>
#5 Feb 11 2014 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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dustinfoley wrote:
Did you try the benchmark tool first? If so what kinda score did it give you?

If you didn't do this first, then yes, you are probably screwed.
#6 Feb 11 2014 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
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Laptop:
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Time of this report: 2/11/2014, 10:34:03
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#7 Feb 11 2014 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Thats a negative thats an intel on board graphics card that definitly wont handle ff14...

What about your desktop?
#8 Feb 11 2014 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Second on your graphic card... Not going to work... You should have gotten a good deal on the laptop though.
#9 Feb 11 2014 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Core i3 without a discrete graphics card is below the minimum specs needed to run the game, I believe.
#10 Feb 11 2014 at 5:55 PM Rating: Default
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what about an i7 using onboard graphics? sure it probably wont run at high settings but surely would run just as good or better than ps3 right?
#11 Feb 11 2014 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
what about an i7 using onboard graphics? sure it probably wont run at high settings but surely would run just as good or better than ps3 right?

It wouldn't be at ps3 level, but it would likely be (barely) playable. A friend of mine accidentally had their monitor plugged into the onboard DVI slot with a Haswell I5 and still managed to get around 10-15fps with ffxiv set to the standard desktop setting. They couldn't do Titan, but they could do most other fights without issues.
#12 Feb 11 2014 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
It'll be ugly but an i7 with Intel 4000 can run it at the lowest settings.
#13 Feb 11 2014 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Upgrade the GPU. i3 CPU will be fine.
#14 Feb 12 2014 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Unless you already need to upgrade your laptop for other purposes(and because we don't even know if its possible with your current architecture), you're better off getting a PS3 or PS4 in a few months. Going on 4 years and I'm still suggesting consoles Smiley: sly
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#15 Feb 12 2014 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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i3 was his laptop, cant really upgrade that card.

i7 with a cheap 100 buck card can handle the game fine though.

In the future run a bench mark before buying a game if you dont know what your system specs/game requires
#16 Feb 12 2014 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
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People have said it before, and i'll say it as many times as it needs to be said. Used to hear it all the time back when i did customer service for a computer retailer. Laptops (atleast most that didnt cost you $3000+) are not meant for serious gaming.

The specs on the graphic cards on even the reasonably priced new ones are easily three years behind on comparable desktops alone. You can pretty much forget about it entirely if it offers any sort of thing "onboard". They have limited capability for expanding or upgrading, if any, and unless you want to play on the road offer very little over a desktop, which, if you were to put in the same money you had to spend on a true gaming laptop into a similarly priced Desktop computer, it would let you run things on impossibly high settings for atleast the next 4 years to come.

Arent there laptops spec'd and aimed towards gaming? Definitely! But dont think you can get close with just a cheap $600-800 laptop. A decent Gaming Laptop (while still in many ways inferior to a decent gaming desktop) would easily run you anywhere from $2500 to far far more. I think Cat has one, she plumped down a small forture for it. And so did several others here.
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#17 Feb 12 2014 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Not entirely true. You wont find a decent caming laptop for under 1000, that i agree with

I dont like to endorse one company over another, but i bought my gaming laptop from cyber power pc.

For 1200 (*lowest price i see atm) you can get a rig that will handle ff14 at mid level specs. I bought mine a few years ago and its worse specs than the cheapest one listed, and it runs just fine and i still only paid 2000 3 years ago.

You are correct that for 1200, you can get a much more powerful PC, but they are far closer now adays then they used to be. Its not really a 3 year difference. A 1500 laptop is about even with a 1000 desktop and both would have near identical performance. A 3000 laptop would be equal to a 2000 desktop and again would have identical performance.

The only time you get into that 2500+ range is if you are buying from dell/alienware/ etc. Where you are paying for the name over the system and usually get less customization.
#18 Feb 12 2014 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder how the new 5200 integrated graphics does with XIV
#19 Feb 12 2014 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
I got mine for $2000, yes, with another $300 for a three year warranty on it. $2400 is the cost of the more souped up package.

Sad thing is, even though this is technically a clone of the desktop I spent around $1000 on over the years, it still doesn't run XIV as smoothly as the desktop does, because even one of the best laptop GPUs on the market isn't as good as its desktop counterpart that is a year old.

#20 Feb 12 2014 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
I got mine for $2000, yes, with another $300 for a three year warranty on it. $2400 is the cost of the more souped up package.

Sad thing is, even though this is technically a clone of the desktop I spent around $1000 on over the years, it still doesn't run XIV as smoothly as the desktop does, because even one of the best laptop GPUs on the market isn't as good as its desktop counterpart that is a year old.

I'm not surprised. The GeForce GTX 560 Ti was a huge step up from any video card I had ever purchased, and I was surprised at the additional power requirement and built-in fan. Heat is the biggest enemy of a laptop. Until something revolutionary happens with heat dissipation or heat generation from circuitry, they're not going to be able to put video cards in laptops that are as powerful as ones in PCs.
#21 Feb 12 2014 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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svlyons wrote:
Catwho wrote:
I got mine for $2000, yes, with another $300 for a three year warranty on it. $2400 is the cost of the more souped up package.

Sad thing is, even though this is technically a clone of the desktop I spent around $1000 on over the years, it still doesn't run XIV as smoothly as the desktop does, because even one of the best laptop GPUs on the market isn't as good as its desktop counterpart that is a year old.

I'm not surprised. The GeForce GTX 560 Ti was a huge step up from any video card I had ever purchased, and I was surprised at the additional power requirement and built-in fan. Heat is the biggest enemy of a laptop. Until something revolutionary happens with heat dissipation or heat generation from circuitry, they're not going to be able to put video cards in laptops that are as powerful as ones in PCs.


Pretty much this. The new architecture on fermis would allow you to mount one in a laptop, but the power consumption and heat is too much especially when you want to run the game at moderate settings. Your motherboard would warp and cause all kinds of issues.

If you're not playing on a desktop, you're going to spend a lot more money for a lot less performance. That is, unless you get a PS3 or a PS4. PS4 and VIta combo would run less than the gaming laptop option and give you the added mobility if that's what you're looking for.
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#22 Feb 12 2014 at 12:29 PM Rating: Excellent
I dunno, I didn't spend $1000 on my laptop and I run it at full resolution, everything on except HDR and I have shadows set to normal (the two settings that, at least in my case, have the biggest impact). I stay stead at around 40 FPS with the worst drop I've experienced being down to mid 20s.
#23 Feb 12 2014 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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darexius2010 wrote:
I dunno, I didn't spend $1000 on my laptop and I run it at full resolution, everything on except HDR and I have shadows set to normal (the two settings that, at least in my case, have the biggest impact). I stay stead at around 40 FPS with the worst drop I've experienced being down to mid 20s.


Temps?
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#24 Feb 12 2014 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
FilthMcNasty wrote:
darexius2010 wrote:
I dunno, I didn't spend $1000 on my laptop and I run it at full resolution, everything on except HDR and I have shadows set to normal (the two settings that, at least in my case, have the biggest impact). I stay stead at around 40 FPS with the worst drop I've experienced being down to mid 20s.


Temps?


Give me a little bit and I'll run CT with a temp monitor going.

As an aside, here's my temps prior to playing:

Screenshot

And after standing in Mor Dhona for a few minutes, I just happened to glance and look:

Screenshot

Edited, Feb 12th 2014 2:23pm by darexius2010

Edited, Feb 12th 2014 2:31pm by darexius2010
#25 Feb 12 2014 at 11:46 PM Rating: Good
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darexius2010 wrote:
And after standing in Mor Dhona for a few minutes, I just happened to glance and look...


Might be worth checking after load. Maybe a somewhat busy FATE or a boss battle. I was just curious how much stress XIV is putting on mobile CPUs that are running on really low voltage. Smiley: cool
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#26 Feb 13 2014 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
FilthMcNasty wrote:
darexius2010 wrote:
And after standing in Mor Dhona for a few minutes, I just happened to glance and look...


Might be worth checking after load. Maybe a somewhat busy FATE or a boss battle. I was just curious how much stress XIV is putting on mobile CPUs that are running on really low voltage. Smiley: cool


I ran out of time yesterday before I had to take care of life things, but I'm going to log in and run CT right now with a temp and load monitor going. I'll report the results soon.
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