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#52 Feb 05 2014 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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sway ones opinion? so stating the reasons i prefer xi over xiv is swaying opinions? thats new. now if i say 'xxx game sucks you should all play xxxx game instead' THEN im trying to sway opinions. in fact ive never once said xiv sucks ive only said i find xi to be better (just because something is better than the other doesnt mean the other is terrible) and wish xiv was a bit more like it


Then you are posing on the wrong forum. The developers read and answer to the official message boards. Only they could make XIV more like XI. We here at Zam can not. You can find the developers ears through the Lodestone.

And hmm, you are stating an opinion, but don't want others to agree.... What else would you call that? Pissing to the wind? Noise pollution? The old bearded dude on the corner talking to himself? Human beings communicate to express ideas, otherwise why even talk? You express your opinions because you think they are correct, I would hope. Would you not be expressing these opinions because you hoped that others would share in your cause? Or are you simply talking just to talk? My five year old does that.

OH wait! You are expressing your opinion because you KNOW others won't agree with you, and you are inciting a response. That is called "trolling" and we do not appreciate that. Get off my message board. Smiley: sly


Edited, Feb 5th 2014 2:49pm by Valkayree
#53 Feb 05 2014 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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If you guys know it's trolling, why feed? I think we can all agree that there will be people who dislike the game, people who like the game but don't have enough to do to keep them interested and people who see no issues at all. These are all personal opinions and shouldn't be a cause to hurl insults from either side.


Not feeding... more like pouring oil into our moat and lighting it on fire. Fire kills trolls. So do well spoken words agreed upon by the populous.
#54 Feb 05 2014 at 3:00 PM Rating: Default
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*Person says they don't like the game* - SHUT UP GO AWAY UGH TROLL WE HATE YOU

*People threaten to punch someone over an opinion on a video game* - HAHA AWESOME YEAH RATE UPS FOR YOU <3

Grow up, seriously. If you don't like a person just put them on ignore. The end.

Edited, Feb 5th 2014 4:03pm by BrokenFox
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#55 Feb 05 2014 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
The problem is they say they don't like the game in every single thread. On a board dedicated to the game they don't supposedly don't like.

It gets old fast.

Edited, Feb 5th 2014 4:22pm by Catwho
#56 Feb 05 2014 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
D&K, no more trolling in this thread, or you'll get muted. I would have muted both of you sooner had I seen your earlier posts. How incredibly indecent of both of you.

This thread isn't about a game... it's about a person.

Troll elsewhere, or else.

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#59 Feb 05 2014 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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We'll miss ya boss… Hope to see you again one day...
#60 Feb 05 2014 at 4:51 PM Rating: Default
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#61 Feb 05 2014 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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Thayos wrote:
This thread isn't about a game... it's about a person.


That was my main reason for being upset about it... I have no clue why this thread needed to be derailed in this way. One of our fellow XIV citizens made a decision about game play to improve/change real life situations. Applaud, commiserate, say good bye, move on. Not debate, troll, and argue.
#62 Feb 05 2014 at 5:23 PM Rating: Excellent
Yep... this thread should remind everyone to not take real-life relationships for granted.

At the same time, it's always sad when a fellow gamer has to step back. We all share a similar hobby, or even a similar passion, and we bond through our experiences in gaming.
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#63 Feb 05 2014 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
For some it's a good question of where the line is drawn between real-life relationships and in-game relationships. I know it's abnormal for many, but most of the people I play with in my FC I've come to know in some form or fashion in real life!
#64 Feb 06 2014 at 4:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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That really sucks, Hairspray, but I understand. I have a feeling I might have to make a similar decision soon based on my SO's behavior lately. It's nice to like a game but not to the point where you spend more time with it than them.

I never got to play with you but I did learn quite a bit from you! Thank you so much and I hope you can come back at a later date. Smiley: nod
#65 Feb 06 2014 at 7:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Quick update... Last night she and I spoke and she told me she wants me to play again, but I need to cut way back on the play time... So capping myth every week may not happen as consistently as it was before but... For now I don't have to quit for good, although I need to be on a lot less...

Thanks for all the support and replies, sorry for the false alarm... Maybe I should have not posted this so soon since it was really only about a 3-4 day hiatus, but I didn't know that at the time.

Edit: And who's to say this thread wasn't the catalyst that got me back into the game again?

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 8:02am by Hairspray
#67 Feb 06 2014 at 7:13 AM Rating: Excellent
Hairspray wrote:
Quick update... Last night she and I spoke and she told me she wants me to play again, but I need to cut way back on the play time... So capping myth every week may not happen as consistently as it was before but... For now I don't have to quit for good, although I need to be on a lot less...

Thanks for all the support and replies, sorry for the false alarm... Maybe I should have not posted this so soon since it was really only about a 3-4 day hiatus, but I didn't know that at the time.

Edit: And who's to say this thread wasn't the catalyst that got me back into the game again?


Woot! Welcome back.

One thing I do is I keep my play time to when my husband is watching TV shows (anime) I don't want to watch. Dude watches waaaaaay too much anime but he's one of the reviewers for ANN and he did his PhD on anime fans so whatever, it got him a job.

That way he doesn't feel neglected.

Edit: Error 404 coffee not found.

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 11:52am by Catwho
#68 Feb 06 2014 at 7:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
Quick update... Last night she and I spoke and she told me she wants me to play again, but I need to cut way back on the play time... So capping myth every week may not happen as consistently as it was before but... For now I don't have to quit for good, although I need to be on a lot less...

Thanks for all the support and replies, sorry for the false alarm... Maybe I should have not posted this so soon since it was really only about a 3-4 day hiatus, but I didn't know that at the time.

Edit: And who's to say this thread wasn't the catalyst that got me back into the game again?

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 8:02am by Hairspray


Yay, I am happy for you Meat, was going to hate seeing you go. Look forward to seeing you in game again. Smiley: grin

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 8:15am by princessary
#69 Feb 06 2014 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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Hairspray, I am glad you are working with your lady and working with her to keep your hobby and your relationship healthy.

Something that has likely already entered discussion between you and she, but bears mentioning here on the forums is: Have you considered setting for yourself a strict timetable to play the game? Something that fits with a schedule of allowing you both to have your own personal time as individuals, then, without fail, making sure there is time spent aside for you two as a couple.

Of course, keeping an open door of communication, emergency, or just sour days to interrupt the game time is more than fine, and keep the idea that these days can shift as needed. But genuinely, making sure you set time together and apart, regardless of your hobbies, will help a lot with making the relationship smooth over.
#70 Feb 06 2014 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
Quick update... Last night she and I spoke and she told me she wants me to play again, but I need to cut way back on the play time... So capping myth every week may not happen as consistently as it was before but... For now I don't have to quit for good, although I need to be on a lot less...

Thanks for all the support and replies, sorry for the false alarm... Maybe I should have not posted this so soon since it was really only about a 3-4 day hiatus, but I didn't know that at the time.

Edit: And who's to say this thread wasn't the catalyst that got me back into the game again?

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 8:02am by Hairspray


A crap just thought we had got rid of you... J/K good you still can play, I may need help on my crafting soon..
Anyway I said I had friends who quit because of wives issues. They worked out understanding with their wives but eventually quit anyway. One worked it out that once the kids went to bed after 9:00 he could play. Problem he played till like 1:00 am or later sometimes and was tired for work. Just remember if she talks to you while playing the game listen to her and work out a balance.
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#71 Feb 06 2014 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just remember if she talks to you while playing the game listen to her and work out a balance.


This is it. Well said.

Good to hear your working things out Hairspray. You are entitled to fun-time too, with limits of course.

We have some ground rules, and I've learned the absolutely critical times that FFXIV comes second. This seems a good place to share. My wife and I have been very happy together, even though I sure play as often as I can, even with 4 kids.

First thing is kids, homework, family dinner, family-fun-day (usually a Sunday afternoon adventure!) and bedtimes, including reading, tooth brushing inspection and bonus bedtime (extra half hour if they get ready all by their selves before 8:30). I don't ever want to look back and feel as if I missed out on fun time with the kids because of FFXIV.

Second, (also first in importance), I never-ever-ever make my wife feel as if she comes second to FFXIV. Now granted I have a great wife who makes this easy. Maybe not at first, but we found our balance. I've been in relationships where my girlfriend thought she should be the only thing I care about. Wackos. Get a hobby or something. Watch out for them. I found a women that actually had things she enjoyed doing with her life, besides dominate my activities. To the young couples out there, if your girlfriend/boyfriend has 0 hobbies, they need one! That is not healthy. Balance is healthy.

Lastly, this one is funny but true, when it's time to bring in the groceries, "One sec guys, brb." Help with the fricken' groceries. I don't even have to put them away, just bring them in. And, oh yeah, fix the broken stuff around the house now-and-then.

Not that she'll ever read this but, thanks Babe, you rock!

Edited, Feb 6th 2014 10:20am by Gnu
#72 Feb 06 2014 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
Good on ya, Meat! I'm glad to hear you'll still be around. We don't play together because of the server I'm on but I, too, have learned a lot from ya and grown fond of you on the forums. I'm glad you and your lady were able to work out an arrangement. Heed the advice given and I think you will be playing more often than you expect!
#73 Feb 06 2014 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
Quick update... Last night she and I spoke and she told me she wants me to play again, but I need to cut way back on the play time... So capping myth every week may not happen as consistently as it was before...

I suggest you just forget about the myth cap, because it tends to become a quota. Treat myth as a bonus you get while doing content you enjoy. If you like running Coil, CT, HM/EX Primals, or just a random high level dungeon, then the myth is just icing on the cake.
#74 Feb 06 2014 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Gnu wrote:
Nashred wrote:
Just remember if she talks to you while playing the game listen to her and work out a balance.

I never-ever-ever make my wife feel as if she comes second to FFXIV. Now granted I have a great wife who makes this easy. Maybe not at first, but we found our balance. I've been in relationships where my girlfriend thought she should be the only thing I care about. Wackos. Get a hobby or something. Watch out for them. I found a women that actually had things she enjoyed doing with her life, besides dominate my activities. To the young couples out there, if your girlfriend/boyfriend has 0 hobbies, they need one! That is not healthy. Balance is healthy.

Lastly, this one is funny but true, when it's time to bring in the groceries, "One sec guys, brb." Help with the fricken' groceries. I don't even have to put them away, just bring them in. And, oh yeah, fix the broken stuff around the house now-and-then.

Not that she'll ever read this but, thanks Babe, you rock!

Good call, I find myself needing to help with the groceries once in a while too!
#75 Feb 06 2014 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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So cute that Hairspray decided to quit entirely because he loves his wife and needs to take care of the relationship and then she goes and does the same thing by saying he should play. Happy you guys worked it out. :)
#76 Feb 06 2014 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Huzzah! Glad you're able to stay Meat. Smiley: nod
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