Parsing seems okay, but this new radar seems to fringe on exploitable/ban able. I know there were map apps for ffxi i just dont see a need for this in xiv, specially not in an ap that is supposed to be okay with the developers.
I for one will not use the ffxiv app anymore unless a dev says map mods like that are acceptable, which i doubt they ever will since that is blatantly reading the memory to display things that they may/may not want you to see.
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I was a little surprised when I loaded up XIV APP yesterday and saw the radar tool. I closed it right away.
And people really said: "FFApp is only a parser, SE shouldn't be worrying about it."
I'll let Icehunter respond himself.
When I interviewed Yoshi in San Francisco last year he stated that there was a LOT of data they were sending to the client that wasn't displayed so that when the Addon Tool was released there would be a lot that could be done. I suspect this kind of thing will be possible when the tool is finally released, but until then you can disable the radar or even delete it from the plugins folder.
When I interviewed Yoshi in San Francisco last year he stated that there was a LOT of data they were sending to the client that wasn't displayed so that when the Addon Tool was released there would be a lot that could be done. I suspect this kind of thing will be possible when the tool is finally released, but until then you can disable the radar or even delete it from the plugins folder.
I can understand how you feel; you can also turn this off and unless you delete/corrupt your settings file you will never have it pop back up. It's in Settings->Third Party Plugins.
This is really no different in terms of what it does; compared to what the parser does, widgets or informer. The plugin API that was released for others to use has the EXACT same info. In fact anyone could have made this.
Widgets has an enmity widget as well that lets you see the exact enmity of a targeted monster. You can also in fact target a player and see how much enmity a monster has earned. (yes everything generates enmity).
Everything in the application, the plugin api, the sample documents that does anything more than read what's in the game around you. It's also how some of the data on XIVDB is populated using this same API.
If this does make you feel uncomfortable please disable the feature. :) The rest of the application has been opened up quite a bit to spark the development of additional plugins. Other users have created great projects/examples.
@Theonehio
The "APP" is a container for read only plugins. No functionality has been programmed in that automates or will ever automate anything. Nothing we distribute will do this. If you download a plugin from any other place than http://ffxiv-app.com or by clicking on the link at the top I can't vouch for that. With that said a good chunk of our plugins and others (twintania mod) are open source on github and if anyone has some knowledge they can compile those plugins as well.
Thanks!
This is really no different in terms of what it does; compared to what the parser does, widgets or informer. The plugin API that was released for others to use has the EXACT same info. In fact anyone could have made this.
Widgets has an enmity widget as well that lets you see the exact enmity of a targeted monster. You can also in fact target a player and see how much enmity a monster has earned. (yes everything generates enmity).
Everything in the application, the plugin api, the sample documents that does anything more than read what's in the game around you. It's also how some of the data on XIVDB is populated using this same API.
If this does make you feel uncomfortable please disable the feature. :) The rest of the application has been opened up quite a bit to spark the development of additional plugins. Other users have created great projects/examples.
@Theonehio
The "APP" is a container for read only plugins. No functionality has been programmed in that automates or will ever automate anything. Nothing we distribute will do this. If you download a plugin from any other place than http://ffxiv-app.com or by clicking on the link at the top I can't vouch for that. With that said a good chunk of our plugins and others (twintania mod) are open source on github and if anyone has some knowledge they can compile those plugins as well.
Thanks!
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=18309
Quote:
Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.
FilthMcNasty wrote:
I endorse this thread.
I've been reading about this app for a while, and now that I'm playing a DPS class, I'd really like to have a parser. I also have no problem sending info to xivdb.com as I would really like it to be as fleshed out as wowhead has become. How does one install an app for FFXIV? I would assume it's a similar process for installing add-ons for WoW, but I don't know the specifics.
just download and run it, pretty easy actually ^.^
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
I've been reading about this app for a while, and now that I'm playing a DPS class, I'd really like to have a parser. I also have no problem sending info to xivdb.com as I would really like it to be as fleshed out as wowhead has become. How does one install an app for FFXIV? I would assume it's a similar process for installing add-ons for WoW, but I don't know the specifics.
Icehunter provides instructions, the only trick really is making sure you have .NET 4.5 installed and that you unzip the files using anything other than windows built in utility (I like 7zip myself). Then you need to run the .exe as Administrator.
#9REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 30 2014 at 8:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have little to no idea what you are talking about.
Yeah, I probably won't be able to use it then as I'm not downloading a program to allow myself to run an app for FFXIV. Oh well.
You should probably already be using something like 7zip or Winrar to unzip things anyways... Not just for FF14.
Yeah 7zip is proven open source software, it's been around for years.
why has it taken me this long since release to associate FFApp with "fap" -__- SLOW ZIGG!
Domain was taken? IDK :D But; it could mean "Fix A Parser"???
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=18309
Quote:
Like Final Fantasy XI, the game specs will be extremely high for the time, but in about 5 years, an average machine can run it on max settings with little to no issues. Tanaka also expressed interest in making a benchmark program available.
FilthMcNasty wrote:
I endorse this thread.
#15REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 01 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So you found out that a GM stated this app was illegal and grounds for account termination, you stated you would get in touch with your contacts at SE to get this sorted out (many users tried to get an official response too), no official reply to either which means this APP is actually ban worthy. Knowing that you decide to push it even further into the realms of tos breaking.
preludes wrote:
So you found out that a GM stated this app was illegal and grounds for account termination, you stated you would get in touch with your contacts at SE to get this sorted out (many users tried to get an official response too), no official reply to either which means this APP is actually ban worthy. Knowing that you decide to push it even further into the realms of tos breaking.
Keep it classy Zam.
Keep it classy Zam.
1/10.
Would not recommend for graduation at Troll High.
If it were bannable, the guy who was warned for mentioning/using it it would have been banned indefinitely.
You are one sad human being, I must say: even by OF standards. To say you are trolling would be insulting trolls. I honestly believe the idiocy you've spewed here is genuinely how you normally think and communicate with other humans.
SE has not given their official word on the matter. A GM is one person. It was also demonstrated that the GM most likely gave the warning due to blatant lying and/or harassment.
Till either SE gives their official word or they respond to the ZAM team with their stance, could you kindly find your way back to the OF and stay there? Thanks.
You are one sad human being, I must say: even by OF standards. To say you are trolling would be insulting trolls. I honestly believe the idiocy you've spewed here is genuinely how you normally think and communicate with other humans.
SE has not given their official word on the matter. A GM is one person. It was also demonstrated that the GM most likely gave the warning due to blatant lying and/or harassment.
Till either SE gives their official word or they respond to the ZAM team with their stance, could you kindly find your way back to the OF and stay there? Thanks.
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
If it were bannable, the guy who was warned for mentioning/using it it would have been banned indefinitely.
You are one sad human being, I must say: even by OF standards. To say you are trolling would be insulting trolls. I honestly believe the idiocy you've spewed here is genuinely how you normally think and communicate with other humans.
SE has not given their official word on the matter. A GM is one person. It was also demonstrated that the GM most likely gave the warning due to blatant lying and/or harassment.
Till either SE gives their official word or they respond to the ZAM team with their stance, could you kindly find your way back to the OF and stay there? Thanks.
You are one sad human being, I must say: even by OF standards. To say you are trolling would be insulting trolls. I honestly believe the idiocy you've spewed here is genuinely how you normally think and communicate with other humans.
SE has not given their official word on the matter. A GM is one person. It was also demonstrated that the GM most likely gave the warning due to blatant lying and/or harassment.
Till either SE gives their official word or they respond to the ZAM team with their stance, could you kindly find your way back to the OF and stay there? Thanks.
They had no 100% accurate proof yet they still stated it was a severe violation and they gave him a warning on his account (2 violations and you're perma banned). Also saying a GM is just one person so they don't count is like saying a police officer is just one person so what they say is worthless and any crimes they tell you not to do is no proof of wrongdoing.
There is official word from SE, I linked it from the GM here -> http://postimg.org/image/csgmfnc03/ . They are the guys that will ban you for using this and given that SE as a company refuse to respond to Zam or posters it's pretty obvious where this App lies in terms of the ToS. You may want to gloss over the fact that this is an illegal (in terms of the ToS) app to use with FFXIV but I think people at least need to understand the risk they take when using this, don't you?
I find it ironic that even typing FFXIAPP used to get your post moderated years ago now is being peddled by Zam itself, probably by the same scummy guy that made that one.
If you want and are ok with breaking the ToS then do so but everyone deserves to know that it's bannable and if you do get banned Zam will do nothing to help you get your account back. Use at your own risk applies. Many people may think that because Zam is offering it that it's safe but it's not, simple as that.
If you think this APP is completely fine to use then I dare you right now to contact a GM ingame, state to them that you are using the app right now as you talk to them and post the screenshot of that conversation. It's completely fine right Hitome? Wint didn't do it, lets see if you do shall we?
http://postimg.org/image/csgmfnc03/
I won't tolerate you bashing the admins here. This is my only warning.
I wonder if you're so adamant bashing ACT as well, or any other parser out there? As I stated in another thread, if you think SE is going to openly endorse our program you're crazy. We are constantly working with our rep at SE to resolve this issue, but they aren't going to give us a gold stamp of approval. The best use of your energy isn't whining here, it's going to the official forums and trying to get some kind of official word on ALL parsers, not just FFXIVAPP.
I wonder if you're so adamant bashing ACT as well, or any other parser out there? As I stated in another thread, if you think SE is going to openly endorse our program you're crazy. We are constantly working with our rep at SE to resolve this issue, but they aren't going to give us a gold stamp of approval. The best use of your energy isn't whining here, it's going to the official forums and trying to get some kind of official word on ALL parsers, not just FFXIVAPP.
#21REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 02 2014 at 12:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Where did I "bash" an admin? Was Icehunter the guy that made FFXIapp too?
preludes wrote:
There is official word from SE, I linked it from the GM here -> http://postimg.org/image/csgmfnc03/ .
This just in! Breaking news!
GAME MASTERS ARE NOT GAME DEVELOPERS NOR ARE THEY PRODUCERS OR DIRECTORS!
You know, SE GMs have also stated in the past that in FFXI running *VOIP* software was "bannable" because they were mis-informed. That selling runs was "potentially exploitative" and other nonsense. If you're going to believe the words of a GM as law, you're a fool. The majority of them are mis-informed.
So yeah, you're nothing more than an infant troll trying to be an adult troll.
It's pathetically sad.
GMs are shlubs who are paid minimum wage or barely above to play cops in a video game. I was a GM-type thing in Dreamscape when I was 19. They're the lowest people on the totem pole, and all they have to go on is a written script. That's not to say they're bad people, but they don't get to make any decisions.
They're no different from the customer service representative you get when you select "talk to a live representative!" on your ISP website. (Except their job is less soul sucking, perhaps.)
They're no different from the customer service representative you get when you select "talk to a live representative!" on your ISP website. (Except their job is less soul sucking, perhaps.)
This is preludes we're talking about though, he's always been kind of stupid.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2014 3:26am by Turin
Edited, Feb 3rd 2014 3:26am by Turin
#25REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 03 2014 at 6:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A GM is the guy that can ban you from the game, a GM is the guy that has total control over all players. Any of you that have dealt with Square Enix GMs know how this works, once a GM takes action on you the chances of getting it overturned are almost impossible. The length of time it takes to get it looked at again is months. If a GM states FFXIVAPP (he knew the name of it and complained about it specifically) then you better take it serious, if you get banned you can't just email Yoshi to get it overturned.
Why don't you do the following: contact a GM in game. Ask him if using FFXIV App violates the ToS and if it is bannable.
I've had several cases overturned on my account in FFXI. None of them involved Windower, though...HMM.
A GM is not a representative. Thought we already cleared this up. Should we go slower?
BTW: I don't use App. What I use is ACT: something far more 'malevolent' (at least in your eyes
) compared to App. ACT has been around since EQ and provides quite a lot of tools for raid analysis.
Of great curiosity: haven't seen any other reports of people being banned for using FFXIV App in the past two weeks. Hmm maybe there's a correlation.
No, my dear preludes: we all agree that you're an idiot.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2014 8:13am by HitomeOfBismarck
I've had several cases overturned on my account in FFXI. None of them involved Windower, though...HMM.
A GM is not a representative. Thought we already cleared this up. Should we go slower?
BTW: I don't use App. What I use is ACT: something far more 'malevolent' (at least in your eyes
) compared to App. ACT has been around since EQ and provides quite a lot of tools for raid analysis. Of great curiosity: haven't seen any other reports of people being banned for using FFXIV App in the past two weeks. Hmm maybe there's a correlation.
Quote:
All of you agree with me that it's illegal.
No, my dear preludes: we all agree that you're an idiot.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2014 8:13am by HitomeOfBismarck
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