Looking forward to HD textures with DX11?Follow

The level of textures they had in the game prior to ARR were high enough that the vast majority of people couldn't really enjoy them anyway. Even if they were, it was taking far too long to render characters on screen. You pretty much stated the obvious here preludes.

That said, there will be a lot more they can do with DX11 to make the game look better. It's not always about textures. My biggest beef with the change from 1.0 to ARR was shadows. There will be much more they can do in that area to make things look more realistic.

Not to mention you haven't filled your "Crap on everyone else's enjoyment of the game" quota for a while

Edited, Jan 9th 2014 4:11pm by Wint

It won't look like it used to, but it'll look and perform better than it does now. XIV is arguably the best looking MMO on the market right now anyway. The fact that it will be improving(however slight) is just fondant

Also just to point out... most people who built a PC for XIV already went way above and beyond. All you have to do is look at the benchmark thread to see what sort of hardware people have. Hardware from several years ago is still competitive.


Edited, Jan 9th 2014 8:13pm by FilthMcNasty

Oooo...Ooooo... Pick me... I can answer those questions!!!

Render the damn objects. Nobody's zoomed in close enough to see the detail he's ******** about any way.

Edit: I was a bit crude with the rest of my post, so I deleted it...

Edited, Jan 10th 2014 5:26am by LebargeX

This.

Preludes' trolling aside, games are not designed to look absolutely fantastic when zoomed in all the way. The textures, lighting, mapping, etc. are all done so it looks gorgeous at a reasonable distance. The zooming in to try to analyze and discredit something is faulty and pointless because you can do this with *every* single game ever made.

FFXIII, for a PS3 game, looks really good. You can obviously tell there's not any anti-aliasing but the overall picture is great. Yet, once again, zoom in on those textures and what do you see? FFXIV looked "pretty" for a bland landscape in terms of textures, but even there if you zoomed in to look you'd see that they're just as 'low' a resolution as everything else. Skyrim looks great at a distance, but zoomed in you see the same texture stretching.

Zomg not as high a resolution as you thought!

Yet it works because at a distance it looks beautiful. That's what happens in virtually every game.

Secondly, the picture referenced was a piece of armor. From the front. That no one will ever realistically look at longer than 5 seconds because you're always staring at your character's ***/back when doing anything. Plus, it's only that one artifact that's horribly stretched in the center of the chest area, so maybe 4-5% of the entire armor look?

Wrong kind of resolution....
I run at >4k and it still looks like sh*t due to the texture resolution. Not sure what most people run at or can run at has to do with it anyhow. That's the wow mentality. If it exists then everyone regardless of capability or situation is entitled to use it or should be able to without effort on their end.

It's called entitlement. The newest generation has a Huge issue with it, and if something isn't done it will only get worse. I look up to my grandfather so much, men have lost the majority of their masculinity these days.

The older generations had chutzpah! Rose to the occasion! Of course these are the days where women believe they are equal through and through. They want in the special forces now lol. Perhaps we should start whimpering that we should be able to bear children! Since we need gender equality and all.

/off topic OFF

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:32pm by klepp0906

Sounds like a PC issue. Time to turn thr settings down. I see the mobs just fine. I vote textures! Especially since moving from that outdated **** API should improve performance by a good 20-30% as it is.

That's assuming it ever happens. So far all seems to be behind schedule.

The textures were reduced so that players on PS3/PS4 would have a similar experience to those on PC. The changes were made because of the consoles, not PC.

I think it's great that you can see mobs just fine, but you're clearly a PC player. If you had been able to play the game before the nerf on a PS3, you'd see exactly why the changes were made. Actually, you wouldn't see them because they would take all day to render


Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 4:44pm by FilthMcNasty

I don't mind tossing $4,000 to $5,000 for a PC, just for one or two games. I really don't. Everyone's financial situation is very different.

Having said that, why can't I get both?

Why can't I get really high texturing, similar to what White Engine did for 1.0, at the same time enjoy better lighting and shadowing?

Why can't I have the best in both worlds? Current generation PC hardware can very well handle it, so what's the ******* problem?

Why even bring up this whole Rendering Speed vs. Graphic Quality argument?

If you ask me which one I prefer, I'd flat out tell you that I prefer Graphic Quality over Rendering Speed. I'm very used to standing in front of a crowded Auction House in FFXI, where I can't see anyone until minutes later, I didn't ever see that as a problem.

Also, if you have a powerful enough machine, you CAN have the best of both worlds.

That is the #1 reason I disagree with Yoshida, because he hasn't answered me the question yet, why can't the game be designed in a sense where people with machines $5000+ can adjust their graphic quality into insane territory, while leaving those with their moms' E-Machine tone it down to a point where it looks like Paper Mario?

Maybe that's a bit exaggerating but you get the point.

I've always said this and I always will say it, 1.0's graphic quality was way better than ARR and 1.8, 1.9 worked just fine for me. Never had any lags in parties, never had lags in cities, never had UI slow down issue, never had all these weird **** people complain about all day.

Simple fact, ARR was a toned down version of 1.0, so that more people with crappy machines can enjoy the game. After all, S.E. is turning into Blizzard little by little, day by day. So basically, ARR is shaping up to be just like WoW, where it's really designed for people with ADD/ADHD. That's how WoW can get the high subscriber amount. Everything is spoon fed, hand held and instanced. Reward is almost guaranteed as long as time is invested.

Anyway, this is going in circles again. People that don't like ARR will never like it, now nor future, like me. People that really enjoy ARR, will always enjoy it. I can accept that.

I wanted a FFXI reboot with FFXIV 1.9 graphics, apparently Yoshida wanted a WoW reboot with FF theme. He got what he wanted, I jumped off the SE fan bus, done deal.

And here I was thinking, "You can't have your cake and eat it too."