Wake me when it's 2.2Follow

I dont want to level another job...

There's also the fact that despite the new endgame having the "new latency checks" there's the massive problems with FIOS (and non-FIOS) with patch 2.1 due to whatever they did to the server clusters during that maintence and it hasn't let up for our group. The majority of our static is pretty close to falling apart because whenever we enter any endgame instance it's nigh-unplayable and it has been since 2.1 for 6 of the 8 members. As in we've had to literally give up on even bothering to go to Turn 5 because the stuttering and lag is so horrendous that 9/10 when Fireballs and Conflags hit the indicators don't even show up anymore, or it stutters and the Conflag is just *there* and according to the 2 non-lagging people it has been for 5+ seconds. Garuda EX is manageable but annoying, Ultima was fun, but Titan's just as bad as Twintania in her own way. Our casters pretty much macro Sprint into most abilities and I can't count the number of time they're literally on the other side of the platform from the plume cluster and are still dead -- and the entire group can see they're out and would have been fine pre-2.1.

I love the game, but as far as endgame and latency goes this will be what kills me. They keep wanting to put in "DODGE OR DIE" mechanics in but their dataserver and net code clearly isn't up to par with what they're attempting. It wasn't so bad before the patch but now I just don't even want to log in anymore half the time and actually dread our raid times.

I'm really, REALLY envious of the groups that aren't plagued with the 2.1 lag. We don't really get but two nights a week for an hour and a half of raiding and it's wasted (and we're seriously talking about just moving on to another game until this is fixed because it's not fun), and that makes me sad because this game is wonderful outside of the damned lag issues that constantly creep up. I know ever game has them, but all I see are 1.0 issues crawling back to the foreground :\

Edited, Jan 6th 2014 8:16am by Viertel

So, the response to someone who is struggling overcoming content that sounds somewhat overtuned is to go and play another job? Sounds a lot like old FFXI comments. I thought we left those attitudes behind.

Has Yoshi-P said anything about folks struggling with Titan?

Titan's problem is lag. If you have lag, you cannot beat him. It took me about 4 tries at each phase to never, ever get hit by anything, ever.

I'm sorry, but Titan is a hard fight. Just because we get better at beating him doesn't change the fact that nobody beats Titan on their first try (unless they pay for the win).

I can also only sit on my hands so much when people complain about lag. In all the times I've done Titan with my FC, nobody has ever died because of lag. Sometimes people get hit by landslides, but it's because they didn't move in time, and we're all secure enough to freely admit that.

To beat Titan, you just have to know how to dodge his attacks. If you can't dodge, you'll get hit. If you can dodge, you'll be fine. I recommend gathering some of your FC mates to run some practice attempts with no real expectations.

I just can't believe the lag terror until I see it for myself... and I just haven't seen it yet.

Just two days ago, my FC did several Titan runs, and we got past the heart stage all but once. We died because it was our healer's first time to the fight, and she just wasn't yet able to move and cure me fast enough (I was tanking). But we have people who live all over the place, and none of us had lag issues, at all... and it had been 20 or so days since the patch?

I don't hear anyone in my FC ever complaining about lag in Titan, either... and people in my FC do it pretty regularly as they help others and level up new jobs.

I'm aware this is an online game, so obviously, there will be bits of lag here and there... but Titan is simply a difficult fight, and winning requires a team of eight people to make very few mistakes through a long fight with many moving parts. It's significantly more complex than Garuda HM. I think that's the real problem.

You have to look at the ability's progress bar, and not at the actual ability animation, which goes off after te bar has filled.