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#27 Jan 01 2014 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
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supermegazeke wrote:
You don't like sorting your sh*t or something? You're a weird @#%^er.


Go back and read the part where I quoted you. There is nothing amazing or new about sorting, ******. It should be easy enough for you to figure out why I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. No need to be Smiley: mad
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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#28 Jan 01 2014 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
supermegazeke wrote:
You don't like sorting your sh*t or something? You're a weird @#%^er.


Go back and read the part where I quoted you. There is nothing amazing or new about sorting, @#%^er. It should be easy enough for you to figure out why I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not. No need to be Smiley: mad


To this game, the sort feature is both new and amazing. It's not my fault you are so hard to please. Sarcasm seems to be what pleases you, but since like I said, I don't use sarcasm, I guess you're just sh*t out of luck on this one.

Edited, Jan 1st 2014 10:18pm by supermegazeke
#29 Jan 02 2014 at 12:32 AM Rating: Default
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supermegazeke wrote:
To this game, the sort feature is both new and amazing. It's not my fault you are so hard to please. Sarcasm seems to be what pleases you, but since like I said, I don't use sarcasm, I guess you're just sh*t out of luck on this one.


Hard to please? It's a ******* sort feature. **** has been around for as long as I can remember, yet I'm entitled because I expected to see it there in the first place? Perhaps it is my fault though. Shouldn't have expected such a simple feature in a game from SE. 'User friendly' and 'intuitive' are terms that should have disappeared from my SE vocab long ago it seems Smiley: sly
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Rinsui wrote:
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HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#30 Jan 02 2014 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Jesus H I came to read some reasonable posts away from the OF and people are fighting over the usefulness of sort... Smiley: oyvey
#31 Jan 02 2014 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
Duty Roulette was probably the best addition in this patch. I love it to bits. It should have been available from day one.
#32 Jan 02 2014 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
The extreme primals are super fun as is Ultima. I like these challenging aspects but I am sad to see posts on the official forums (aka: crazy town) about how Titan is not fun or how Ultima touched them in an inappropriate area with his defractive laser.


Funny, I feel like I've been touched in an inappropriate area every time I visit the official forums. Smiley: lol
#33 Jan 02 2014 at 8:55 PM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
supermegazeke wrote:
To this game, the sort feature is both new and amazing. It's not my fault you are so hard to please. Sarcasm seems to be what pleases you, but since like I said, I don't use sarcasm, I guess you're just sh*t out of luck on this one.


Hard to please? It's a @#%^ing sort feature. sh*t has been around for as long as I can remember, yet I'm entitled because I expected to see it there in the first place? Perhaps it is my fault though. Shouldn't have expected such a simple feature in a game from SE. 'User friendly' and 'intuitive' are terms that should have disappeared from my SE vocab long ago it seems Smiley: sly


I didn't call you entitled, but since you brought it to the table, It's hard for me to deny that you are.
#34 Jan 03 2014 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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It's fairly obvious to me after going 1-50 on a class, that even with ARR being v2.0 of FFXIV, it was still a rushed game and they did not give themselves time to add in everything they wanted. I'm fairly certain we're going to be see these little quality of life ugrades for the next 4 or 5 patches. That being said, the game is insanely fun and there is a LOT of stuff to do and even more since 2.1 released.
#35 Jan 03 2014 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
A properly built pay-to-play MMO is, by design, unfinished at release. If they don't have a clear plan laid out and a vision for where they intend to take the game in the next few years ready to go when they release the first chunk, the game will probably not make it very far. That was the downfall of SWTOR - The first chunk of game was polished and beautifully executed, but they didn't release the next infusion of content fast enough to keep people happy.

The long running juggernauts of the genre - EQ1, WoW, and FFXI - all had long term story plans and content plans that were well thought out and ready for execution each time they released a new expansion.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2014 12:41pm by Catwho
#36 Jan 03 2014 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
A properly built pay-to-play MMO is, by designe, unfinished at release.


I'd go so far to say a properly built pay-to-play MMO is never finished. As long as the game runs, there should always be something new just around the corner.
#37 Jan 03 2014 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
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supermegazeke wrote:
I didn't call you entitled, but since you brought it to the table, It's hard for me to deny that you are.


I see why you don't do sarcasm. It flies completely over your head. You're oblivious Smiley: lol
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#38 Jan 03 2014 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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Xoie wrote:
Catwho wrote:
A properly built pay-to-play MMO is, by designe, unfinished at release.


I'd go so far to say a properly built pay-to-play MMO is never finished. As long as the game runs, there should always be something new just around the corner.


I completely agree with this sentiment, but there were some very simple things that were left out, such as the aforementioned sort feature. On top of that, chat functionality is abysmal, you can't link items into chat (what?!?!?), and the whole travelling thing is quite annoying.
#39 Jan 03 2014 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
supermegazeke wrote:
I didn't call you entitled, but since you brought it to the table, It's hard for me to deny that you are.


I see why you don't do sarcasm. It flies completely over your head. You're oblivious Smiley: lol


supermegazeke wrote:
I don't use sarcasm on the internet



I am oblivious to some matters of the world, but your ignorance and negativity are not too easy to mask my friend, though it seems you try so very hard. To each his own though, and to me you're just a prick for the sake of being a prick. I honestly don't know if I've ever seen you bring up any positive points on anything regarding this game except for giving me praise for what you assumed was sarcasm. I think you read it as sarcastic because deep down, you truly wish someone could be as miserable as you are.

The best part of all, is how much time you've spent (and how many threads you've created) aiming at bashing the game, received by people that for the most part like this game. If you were ******** to SE, that would be at least tolerable, but as posting anything negative in here furthers nothing but to pad your ego with people that sparsely agree with you, you're clearly wasting your time.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2014 6:07pm by supermegazeke
#40 Jan 03 2014 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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supermegazeke wrote:
I am oblivious to some matters of the world, but your ignorance and negativity are not too easy to mask my friend, though it seems you try so very hard. To each his own though, and to me you're just a prick for the sake of being a prick. I honestly don't know if I've ever seen you bring up any positive points on anything regarding this game except for giving me praise for what you assumed was sarcasm.


You called a sort feature amazing and new. If you think it's negativity that causes me to point out that it isn't, you're wrong. Can you even name another MMO that doesn't have a sort feature? Nevermind other MMOs... how long has FFXI had a sort feature? Is it really that much to ask for? To expect?

Either way, my intent wasn't to **** you off. It was your comment and I can see why you'd be defensive, but there's really nothing to defend and certainly no reason to make yourself look bad....

supermegazeke wrote:
The best part of all, is how much time you've spent (and how many threads you've created) aiming at bashing the game, received by people that for the most part like this game.


I'll be completely honest here... I can only recall one thread that I've ever started. It's a sticky at the top of this forum directing other people on how and where they can activate codes, download clients and instructions on registration for both platforms. So... quite the contrary, the only thread I created here was with the intent of helping people.

Just back away slowly and don't make any sudden movements Smiley: nod
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#41 Jan 04 2014 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
You called a sort feature amazing and new. If you think it's negativity that causes me to point out that it isn't, you're wrong. Can you even name another MMO that doesn't have a sort feature? Nevermind other MMOs... how long has FFXI had a sort feature? Is it really that much to ask for? To expect?

RO2 doesn't have auto-sort.

The funny thing about comparing XIV to XI is that XI had a sort feature right out the gate, but never did get a proper auto-stack feature (you had to use Light Luggage if you wanted auto-stacking without the auto-sorting). XIV had auto-stack right out of the gate, but took until 2.1 to get a sort feature.

And no, he's not wrong. You are being negative. Auto-sort is new to this game, and not having auto-sort was the best reminder as to how amazing auto-sort is. You're arguing just to argue.
#42 Jan 04 2014 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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svlyons wrote:
The funny thing about comparing XIV to XI is that XI had a sort feature right out the gate, but never did get a proper auto-stack feature (you had to use Light Luggage if you wanted auto-stacking without the auto-sorting).


Yes, you can search and sort through inventory in RO2. What you describe in XI is capable through sort as well, without the use of LL. Not since the beginning, but prior to XIV's release.

svlyons wrote:
Auto-sort is new to this game, and not having auto-sort was the best reminder as to how amazing auto-sort is.

Thing is, I've been playing games that have had this feature in them for years. It's been a daily operation for me for more than a decade now. Things become standard for a reason.

If you think it's negative of me to point that out, so be it; but the truth is the truth. Deal.
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#43 Jan 04 2014 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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svlyons wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
You called a sort feature amazing and new. If you think it's negativity that causes me to point out that it isn't, you're wrong. Can you even name another MMO that doesn't have a sort feature? Nevermind other MMOs... how long has FFXI had a sort feature? Is it really that much to ask for? To expect?

RO2 doesn't have auto-sort.

The funny thing about comparing XIV to XI is that XI had a sort feature right out the gate, but never did get a proper auto-stack feature (you had to use Light Luggage if you wanted auto-stacking without the auto-sorting). XIV had auto-stack right out of the gate, but took until 2.1 to get a sort feature.

And no, he's not wrong. You are being negative. Auto-sort is new to this game, and not having auto-sort was the best reminder as to how amazing auto-sort is. You're arguing just to argue.



Filthy's abrasive and incisive demeanor is the reason why he primarily resides on my ignore list. It has not changed since 1.0 Era, nor do I expect it to in the future.

The matter of the Sorting is moot. We have it, it's a boon for the system, and people are free to enjoy something that was once not there, regardless of what other companies did or did not do. Frankly, this business of treating every game as an entrant into the pissing match against every game that ever was has long since grown stale.

The 2.1 update was eighty-some pages printed, according to Limit Break Radio's host. Honestly, given the size of that list, I'd say they could have spent some time sorting and categorizing the information better than it was presented. Still, the amount of changes and additions did in fact change the way I play the game, as they claimed it would, and I find myself enjoying the process of gearing for Coil.
#44 Jan 04 2014 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
Hyrist wrote:
Frankly, this business of treating every game as an entrant into the pissing match against every game that ever was has long since grown stale.


Well, the fact is every game ever has tons of features that ARR doesn't have and may not ever have so the critics can just conveniently pick and choose whatever existing feature or a better designed feature fits their current agenda, criticizing ARR for not having it. Even though these games are no different from ARR in that they, too, lack tons of features that exist in other games.

It's an excellent way to criticize any game, and will sadly remain a popular tactic until people realize what's going on.

No game will be able to top/meet the standards of every game ever, not to mention if the games in question are ever-evolving MMORPGs.

Edited, Jan 4th 2014 6:40pm by Hyanmen
#45 Jan 04 2014 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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FilthMcNasty wrote:
If you think it's negative of me to point that out, so be it; but the truth is the truth. Deal.

Opinion is not truth. You said it wasn't amazing, and that's an opinion. Your need to share that particular opinion when it was hardly the focal point of this thread is what makes you negative.
#46 Jan 04 2014 at 1:36 PM Rating: Default
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svlyons wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
If you think it's negative of me to point that out, so be it; but the truth is the truth. Deal.

Opinion is not truth. You said it wasn't amazing, and that's an opinion. Your need to share that particular opinion when it was hardly the focal point of this thread is what makes you negative.


Nearly all other games have this feature. It's common. That is fact, not my opinion. Perhaps you should revisit the OP for a refresher to see what the focal point really was...
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#47 Jan 04 2014 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
I am a big fan of patch 2.1. For me it vastly improved the game in many areas. The duty roulette and party finder alone have completely changed my life in Eorzea for the better. As an older player with a family and extensive professional commitments the structure of the game in terms of progression is absolutely perfect for me. It allows me to utilize my time in game in an efficient way and enables me to not fall too far behind the pack despite my lesser playtime. While I know that many hardcore players feel upset by the lockouts and roadblocks instituted in this game, I think for the vast majority of players it works out extremely well.

This game is definitely a work in progress, and as another poster mentioned lots of the basics were not available at launch, but that doesn't stop the game from being enjoyable. I haven't enjoy an MMO this much in a long long time and I am looking forward to its continued growth. If nothing else, Yoshi-P has demonstrated that he does in fact listen to the community and makes changes based on feedback/suggestions. Thats a great thing.
#48 Jan 04 2014 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Hyrist wrote:
Filthy's abrasive and incisive demeanor is the reason why he primarily resides on my ignore list. It has not changed since 1.0 Era, nor do I expect it to in the future.

Frankly, this business of treating every game as an entrant into the pissing match against every game that ever was has long since grown stale.


Abrasive and incisive. I'll take it as a compliment, thanks Hyrist Smiley: grin

It's not a pissing match, it's a simple comparison. Comparison is a pretty critical element. I don't know many people who would patron any product or service without looking at the alternatives first. I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing either. I truly believe that people will play the games they enjoy. There are probably a few people who will just play FF because it's FF and they don't care that they might enjoy another game as much or more, but I would think that is a small minority. Not every fan is a fanboy.
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Rinsui wrote:
Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

HaibaneRenmei wrote:
30 bucks is almost free

cocodojo wrote:
Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
#49 Jan 04 2014 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Some days I feel like I'm running a daycare here Smiley: rolleyes
#50 Jan 04 2014 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
Goo goo! Want biscuit! HE HIT MEEEEE
#51 Jan 04 2014 at 8:44 PM Rating: Default
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Housing: rofl what a joke
PvP: Meh, never was into this in any other game, still not into it now
Copperbell/Haukke hard: Thank god, something to run for tomes besides endless WP/AK
Pharos: Really deserves to drop more/better things considering how much of a pain the first and last bosses can be
CT: ***** this place, too much crap going on and too much berating from an alliance of people (let alone just one party of 8) for not knowing what the hell is going on despite announcing at the start that it's your first time. I never want to go back here, and tbh I don't see the point of doing so for a single random piece of inferior gear per week when I could just keep farming mythotome gear in groups that don't make me want to kill them and then myself
Duty Roulette: pretty cool, nice way to shake things up. The 8-man roulette needs some better variety though, the only things it can give you are Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium; only 2 possible outcomes isn't much of a roulette imo

Haven't tried anything else to be able to have any opinion.

I honestly liked this patch more for the little things, like

- 450 mythotomes a week
- Showing what job you are on underneath your EXP bar
- Zone names in the Teleport list (too bad that by the time they implemented this I pretty much memorized them all... but it'll help others I'm sure)
- Sorting
- Being able to actually see numbers for your chocobo's exp values

Little things I do not like:

- The new markers on the minimap indicating quests/FATEs in your vicinity. Much harder to see than the older ones
- Requiring FATEs for any sort of potentially repeatable quest

Things people have made a big deal about but I either have not noticed or am not particularly fussed:

- Whatever they did to Umbral Ice. Nothing about it seems any different to me than before, it's still the same ridiculously overpowered MP regeneration tool that it was before to me
- The Holy nerf
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