Gil and 2.1Follow

If anyone hasn't done the guildhests yet, the first time gil reward increase from 2.1, is pretty good going, with them needed for the main scenario now, I didn't have to wait long to clear them, they are easy and quick.

Daily beastman quests rake in 3-4k a day, and doing the low level duty roulette as a tank gets me 5k gil with the bonus.

Selling anything on the Market board atm , is basically just trying to scrape any amount of gil you can from it.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2014 12:54pm by Vitriolic

I don't understand why people don't use cheap food, if only for the 3% exp boost.

It's bad when you're in a level 44 dungeon (Dzmael Darkhold) and only the white mage has chucked some raisins.

I should look into doing Guildhests again... quick fight, fast return... have no idea what the gil rewards are though.

Yeah, SE missed the boat by tying housing to heavy amounts of gil.

Housing should have been purchasable with some other kind of currency. Gil, tomes, guild points, achievement points, etc., each should have been exchangeable for this currency at varying rates. How cool would it be if your FC could get housing by being more active in the game?

Here's the real tragedy... if housing were accessible to all FCs, then the game's economy would thrive. There's so much SE could do with housing to move the economy, it's not even funny. However, because nobody can afford housing, the exact opposite has happened... everyone is trying to save, and nobody is spending... all corners of the market are flooding. Housing prices can't come down fast enough to match the rate of deflation. Housing is actually more expensive now than it was when the patch was released.

They're falling into the Tanaka trap. They have their meta data and equations and that all matches up to how they believe the economy in the game should be working, but the reality is a lot messier. When we complain that we don't understand their logic, they say we just don't understand their vision.

You can't make sane game design decisions based on how the game is supposed to be running on paper. You have to understand how it's working in reality, and design accordingly.

I've been toying with the idea of posting this for a while, and this seems like as good of a place to do it as any.

I want a company house. My entire company wants a company house. I've seen how housing systems based on actual placement have evolved in other MMOs, and know all too well that one day a house in a prime slot in the first ward is going to be highly coveted. Not to mention, I don't want to live in a ghost zone. My FC is only 30 people, half of which are casual and the other half I haven't seen in 2 weeks. People donate where they can, but we're talking a drop in the bucket compared to what's being asked. I play the game probably 2 hours a night, but I still consider myself casual because I like to take my time doing things. I read every line of quest dialogue. I speak to every NPC. I stop to enjoy the scenery. I level a new class when I feel like it. I treat this game as an RPG that happens to be online, rather than an online game that also happens to be an RPG.

Never thought I'd say it but this whole pricing situation has had me consider buying gil for the first time, and that includes my entire XI career of 7 years. I figured my 1.1 mill that I brought from 1.0 would have been something, but it's about 1/20 of what I need to get into what is effectively a shack. Not that I'm complaining, frankly I'd be happy with that if it were realistically obtainable.

The argument for farming gil vs. just buying it at this point is quite weak, especially with the time sensitive nature of plot sales. It would cost me about $25 for a million if I decided to buy it. Even at 20k a day, which isn't going to happen for me or 99.9% of the player base because we don't want to/seriously can't spend 4+ hours a day farming, it would take 50 days for a single person. 50. Now, I need about 20 people who are *willing* to do that, which basically means I'm creating a platoon of farmers, who have to work around the clock, effectively killing any enjoyment they can get out of the game. What if someone gets sick, or decides not to do it any more? Like, seriously, this isn't a long term goal... this becomes a job, and one that would end up taking around a year, realistically.

Seriously, what am I supposed to do at this point? What other options do I have? Give me something viable to do to make money at this point, please, because anytime I try and price speculate or farm something or spiritbond the prices seem to inevitably crash by the time I'm ready to sell.

On your server, maybe. They already dropped down to selling for 7K on my server.

I don't have 8 active people in my FC any more.

Sounds nice, but unless there's more than one person from your FC involved in any particular map fight, you're better off just doing a solo map, because when you're doing a peiste map with strangers, your FC isn't getting all the money generated.

Again, it's not "at the very most 10 minutes". Yesterday it took me 50 minutes. Today it took 15. Two days ago it took 3 minutes. It's random, so stop claiming a static time to something that varies from person to person and day to day. They are also down under 10k on my server. We Treasure Hunt every night for our FC, because right now that and dungeons are the only way anyone is making money. Even your supposed gold mine of tier 3/4 materia has dried up. Most are under 10k for us now, and the ones that aren't are getting undercut with every sale. I think I've managed to sell all of 3 materia so far and the rest just get undercut. Like literally, I'll post them, run a dungeon, check back and half were undercut. How exactly am I supposed to sell anything and make money when this is happening? Demand is crazy low, supply is crazy high...for everything in the game. I haven't found one reliable market recently.

I made my money on rings. Level 49 rings. The gavel of the luminary speaks for itself lol. And I also made about a million off of lucky conversions of goldsmith lvl 50 gear to IV materia on five occasions, back when they were worth 200k a piece.

Ha, considering most tier IV materia now sells for 20k or less... how much do housing prices need to drop to remain consistent with how the economy has crashed since the patch? Seems like they need to come down by 90 percent or so.