Tanks Trolling the DFFollow

Remember this happening to me but it was a connection issue, and the only PTs have ever joined the tanks usually quit a few minutes in or after wiping on first mini boss. So I think you're just not lucky with them quitting right at the beginning.

They think it's funny that DPS need to wait 40 minutes while they get instant queues. They need to check their tank privilege.

It's the impersonal nature of Duty Finder. To me it seems like players are simply not in front of their PC/Console to accept the Duty Finder popup. I've seen Duty Finder fail 4 times in a row for Prat run because someone fails to accept the popup alert. What you're experiencing with Duty Finder is completely different from the face-to-face encounter with players within an instance. Some might take one look at everyone's gear and decide to take the 15-min hit then risk a failed run. The second part might be mitigated once they deploy patch 2.1. I for one wish they put out a stacking deserter's penalty for ditching an instance. First offense is the standard 15 minutes and then keep doubling the penalty for each future offense.

Are you sure they were withdrawing or time ran out and it withdrew them? DF works automatically so if you sign up for a DF from like a hour ago, it can pop up and you can be afk missing the party. I can't tell you how many afk DD's do this. People are quick to whine that DD's shouldn't be doing this, but when you wait for a hour or longer sometimes, there is a good reason for falling asleep. I think you just had a bad weekend. While tanks typically get party invites a lot faster, I don't think it's any form of elitism. It's simply they're tired, busy, or any other of RL issues that prevent party play. Maybe they forgot to turn off DF, I've done that before on accident. My general point is to not be paranoid and judge each situation separately.

****** tanks aside it's because they do this:

[x]Castrum Meri.
[x]Praetorium
[x]Bowl of Embers (Hard)
[x]The Naval (Hard)
[x]The Howling Eye (Hard)

And what the tank gets is usually the one they don't want to do thus they keep withdrawing and requeuing until they get into the one that want, why they choose not to just click one instead of a set? We'll never know, they usually give up and just take what queues up eventually. Also, you can tell immediately when someone withdraws or time runs out. You get 50 seconds, if they withdraw with anything less than 10 seconds left, it was them manually cancelling it.

Elitist Americans are the biggest trolls, in my experience.

Frankly, what a tank does with their DF is their own damn business. I don't see the reason to hate on people because they're not living up to other people's expectations. My retort isn't directed at you, but all people who think they're entitled to tanks that must adhere to their every whim. The real problem with the system isn't the tanks, but the sheer number of people on DPS classes. I'm playing a DPS class first myself, but I fully expect to wait long times. I don't cry about it because after I wait a hour the tank withdrawals on me. That kind of mentality reeks of the me, me, me entitlement.

I really wish they made tanking and healing in these games more...entertaining. There has got to be a way to do it.

Tanks and healers get instant queues while I sit and wait for 55min. Sigh..

My guess is that tank was most likely looking for his favorite composition for the run...which is strange because he could just start a goup in chat and just wait the 15-30min it takes to reserve a spot on the duty server rather than rolling the dice.

Wait....

If you are the first to leave a dungeon you get a 15min lock out...

So on second thought...how the hell was he leaving then joining over and over?

Not entirely, but that is part of it. It's just as much the fact that tank/heals is more "work" and more responsibility. Also more accountability when things go wrong. I play DPS and tank; I love my PLD and I love tanking, but when I'm tired or burnt out, I will run dungeons on DRG because its honestly less effort.

First of all you're part of the problem. Tanking and healing aren't boring in the slightest. It's your attitude and the attitudes of others that causes the deficit of healers and tanks. People cry that there are too many dps....but yet insist on being dps! Hilarious.

I don't agree that tanking/healing is more work in this game. If DD's are taking damage because they're not constantly moving out of AoE crossfire or not delivering enough damage soon enough, wipes happen. I'll cite an early example so everyone will understand. Take the Ifrit fight where the DD need to kill the pillar thingy before he uses Hellfire. If Hellfire is going off, it's the DD's fault. There are many other examples to list, but let's not dwell on it. As for healers, their primary focus is the tank. Tanks need to hold hate and stay alive. Marking IMO doesn't have to be a tanking thing. Anyone can mark so I'm not adding that to a tank's role. DD's often find themselves dying if they take any damage because the healer is so focused on the tank. This mean many of the deaths are a direct result of the DD being stupid.

No offense, but I wouldn't want your DRG in my party. If you think it's easier to play a DD, you're doing it wrong.

There was a saying in XI...

- When you're a great red mage or white mage, you are invisible. All credit and glory go to the DDs after taking down a successful boss or hitting a long chain or high exp/hour. You do you job right and nobody even knows you're there.

- When you are a bad red mage or white mage, you are the spotlight of the party and everyone hates you. Because they're dead.

Healing in an MMO, and all support jobs really, is an act of selflessness. You're playing the job because you enjoy helping others perform to the best of their ability. (Or you're like me and you freak out when you can't cure yourself, let alone anyone else.)

I think tanking is a lot more work than healing, and that's why the healers are now in the same boat as some of the DPS in terms of wait times. People decided to level a healer to shortcut the dungeon wait times, because it takes a specific mind set to be a good tank and fewer people have that mind set.

stop being purposefully obtuse.

i'm already turned off by this discussion, so i'll be brief. its not the buttons you push. its the role you play. as a tank you are the focus of everything that is happening. it is more "pressure" so to speak. if you don't understand this, and i suspect that you don't or don't want to, then there's nothing else to be said.

and scaring off potential tanks? that's ridiculous.