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#1 Feb 04 2013 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
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you think SE will announced a release date or at least official price for PS3 and pc versions this month? so far amazon is the only retailer listing it for 39.99 on ps3... i wanted to preorder it at gamestop.. but they dont have the game listed because the lack of a date and confirmed price (like thats ever stopped them from making up a release date) they only have the vanilla PS3 version (which never came out) listed at 59.99.. according to them that counts as a realm reborn since the other one never came out on ps3.


so in that case amazon is listing it for 39.99 while gamestop is 60? the issue is:

if i preorder at amazon for 39.99 theyll honor that price even if the official price is 59.99.. however ill have to wait for them to ship the games hich means i might be starting a week late..

whereas with gamestop Id be getting it on day 1 if i preordered it but Im not gonna give them 65 bucks lol. especially when they have the wrong version listed

Anyone think we'll get some official announcement this month?
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No, it's too soon in the testing process for a release date.

If you look at the proposed roadmap, the testing period has about an eight week margin of error, no doubt depending on what happens during testing.

Declaring a release date now, when it could be as much as two months off, wouldn't be a good idea.
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Yeah, Yoshi-P said that they do not intent to release the game until the community is happy with the Beta. If by open Beta, the players still complaning about the quality of the game; I don't think they will release the game. You will not see an official date until after Open Beta, price maybe.
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I'd expect that by the time open beta rolls around, they've got a fairly good idea of what needs to be done and can estimate the time it'll take to do that.

I would expect a release date announcement right around the start of open beta, if not slightly before that.
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Yeah, Yoshi-P said that they do not intent to release the game until the community is happy with the Beta. If by open Beta, the players still complaining about the quality of the game; I don't think they will release the game. You will not see an official date until after Open Beta, price maybe.


if thats true then with all the complaining i see around here (too flash, just doing teh same move over and over, battles take no skill, etc etc) then the game will be in beta til 2014.. but yeah im mainly looking for a price than a date
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SE rushed the release date for XIV the first time around, what makes you think they'd make the same mistake again?
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Yeah, Yoshi-P said that they do not intent to release the game until the community is happy with the Beta. If by open Beta, the players still complaining about the quality of the game; I don't think they will release the game. You will not see an official date until after Open Beta, price maybe.


if thats true then with all the complaining i see around here (too flash, just doing teh same move over and over, battles take no skill, etc etc) then the game will be in beta til 2014.. but yeah im mainly looking for a price than a date


I'd say you can expect the game to be $60 for ps3 and around the same price for pc version. There possibly will be a CE edition, but I'm not going to count my chickens until they say it themselves. Release date wise, Yoshi said that if everything goes smoothly during beta, the official release will be around 2 weeks after the end of the open beta.

This forum has always been very open with how people thought of the game. Honestly, there isn't much complaining going on anymore compared to what there was. People are just talking about things they see in videos of a game many here haven't played yet. It's one thing to complain about something that you've played, but it's something completely different to complain about something you haven't played. It all comes down to how people feel about the game during the up coming beta test. Once phase 4 hits, this forum will explode with what members think is good and what members think is bad.
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60 dollars for a 2 yeah old game that ps3 players get 2 years late? yeah ill give amazon my 40 bucks lol
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60 dollars for a 2 yeah old game that ps3 players get 2 years late? yeah ill give amazon my 40 bucks lol


While I dislike your bad attitude in general, you are probably right in regards to the reception of the Ps3 version of the game at that price point. If they are planning 39.99 for the PC version, I'd expect the Ps3 version to be the same if for no other reason than they really should do all they can to welcome new players into the game. Selling one version for twenty bucks more right off the bat when the game has already failed hard once in the eyes of the consumer - probably not a great idea.
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well if the current prices on amazon is correct then the ps3 version is already 10 dollars more than the pc version lol
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
you think SE will announced a release date or at least official price for PS3 and pc versions this month? so far amazon is the only retailer listing it for 39.99 on ps3... i wanted to preorder it at gamestop.. but they dont have the game listed because the lack of a date and confirmed price (like thats ever stopped them from making up a release date) they only have the vanilla PS3 version (which never came out) listed at 59.99.. according to them that counts as a realm reborn since the other one never came out on ps3.


Of three major retailers, the pre-order prices are already set as:

PC version - $29.99
PS3 version - $39.99

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http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=135932759577068212
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Just to put it out there, the only reason I said $60 is because that's the starting price point for new releases on the ps3. It may very well be less since it was originally released 2 years ago. I honestly have no idea of where it actually will fall. Hopefully, it'll be low enough to entice people on the fence to buy it just to see since it's ONLY xx.xx dollars.
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Just to put it out there, the only reason I said $60 is because that's the starting price point for new releases on the ps3. It may very well be less since it was originally released 2 years ago. I honestly have no idea of where it actually will fall. Hopefully, it'll be low enough to entice people on the fence to buy it just to see since it's ONLY xx.xx dollars.


While true the vast majority of the time, I believe Little Big Planet was one who bucked the trend and launched at $40.
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#14 Feb 05 2013 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:

if i preorder at amazon for 39.99 theyll honor that price even if the official price is 59.99.. however ill have to wait for them to ship the games hich means i might be starting a week late..



I order from amazon all the time (free shipping ftw with prime) They are really really good at getting the product to you on the day of its release. Once I got something a day early... shhhhhh
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If you order from amazon, right now, at the price tag of $39.99 you will get that price of $39.99 even if the price jumps to $59.99 and even $99.99

If anything, I would 100% order from Amazon.com and if you need to, just cancel the order. They don't charge until its shipped anyway.
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If you order from amazon, right now, at the price tag of $39.99 you will get that price of $39.99 even if the price jumps to $59.99 and even $99.99

If anything, I would 100% order from Amazon.com and if you need to, just cancel the order. They don't charge until its shipped anyway.



I know that Im just worried about when Id get the game.. if i recall only items that specifically say it have "release date arrival shipping" i,.e that doesnt apply to ALL pre orders and even if it does im sure that offer is only for Prime members
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The price is generally higher on consoles because of companies have to pay royalties as well. On PC there's no such thing.
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The price is higher on consoles because that's what people expect console games to cost.

No, seriously.. this is a thing.
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60 dollars for a 2 yeah old game that ps3 players get 2 years late? yeah ill give amazon my 40 bucks lol


It's a $20 difference... Twenty Dollars.



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#20 Feb 06 2013 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
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If by open Beta, the players still complaning about the quality of the game; I don't think they will release the game.


Yeah, that's just not going to happen. Square-Enix hasn't worked 2+ years (for almost free) to trash the thing the minute things turn sour. Unless the cost of going live is somehow higher than what they foresee making (if things go poorly), there's just no way it wont be released.
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They announced a 2010 release date for PS3... Oh right.
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If by open Beta, the players still complaning about the quality of the game; I don't think they will release the game.


Yeah, that's just not going to happen. Square-Enix hasn't worked 2+ years (for almost free) to trash the thing the minute things turn sour. Unless the cost of going live is somehow higher than what they foresee making (if things go poorly), there's just no way it wont be released.

If by 'for almost free' you mean hemorrhaging money. SE has stated that they're committed to trying to bring XIV back to life. While there isn't any doubt that it'll see release, there is no guarantee that the plug isn't pulled soon after that if it doesn't start to look promising real quick. I don't think SE would risk their company over a struggling game in an unsettled genre unless they think it can reverse the flow.
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SE released it's financials yesterday, profits took a big hit, and they're hanging a lot on MMO's carrying them through. I don't think failure is an option for them.
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#24 Feb 06 2013 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
I love SE. Actually, I loved Squaresoft and came to accept SE, but it's amazing how they can't seem to do anything in a timely manner anymore. We all know about XIV. By the time FF Versus XIII comes out the ps3 will be in bargain bins. Even this XIII trilogy is taking forever. What we need is to slow down "ERMAHGERD FF EVERYTHING OVERLOAD" and get a Chrono revamp ASAP. That'll get things going.
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SE released it's financials yesterday, profits took a big hit, and they're hanging a lot on MMO's carrying them through. I don't think failure is an option for them.


At this point if XIV fails, it's going to drag XI down with it.

That'd be a shame. SE would have to liquidate and they might be able to sell XI off to a white knight in bankruptcy proceedings, but the only company I think that might even want it is Blizzard.
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To be fair, they still made $42 million last year, but it was down over 60% I think. There is a lot riding on this game.
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To be fair, they still made $42 million last year, but it was down over 60% I think. There is a lot riding on this game.


And when/if ARR fails, they may not even be able to revitilize XI, the MMO that's **** near saving them (and have, considering Wada said it made SE the most money of any project.)

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Well if we look at the price of ffxi pc vs console prices they are the same.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/
Usually monthly subscription games Sell at a discount to other games so they can make the money back on subscriptions. it is the whole razor and blades idea or printer and ink.

I agree SE has allot riding on this game and could really hurt the company if it fails. I still believed they should have changed the name completely from FFXIV which I am sure has been debated many times before There are so many people that are not going to know this is a whole new game. They are just going to say FFXIV I remember that game and it was horrible.

I also agree they wont announce a date for a while yet. they may announce a window eventually though. Like something after June or July..

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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
60 dollars for a 2 yeah old game that ps3 players get 2 years late? yeah ill give amazon my 40 bucks lol


It's a $20 difference... Twenty Dollars.



Twenty. Dollars.



it's likely a matter of principle and that you need to pay a subscription on top of that to get the full experience.

not wanting to pay 60$ is perfectly reasonable, and I wouldn't buy this game on PS3 for more than 30 personally.


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I wouldn't be thrilled at playing on the PS3 at all. However I remember when I started XI and my PS2 was the most powerful electronics I owned, and I loved it. Of course XI got me into PC building, and now during the day I'm an Application Developer for a major company, which can all be traced back to XI Smiley: smile
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yeah me neither, despite the fact I'll be playing XIV(if it's good) with my 360 controller, I'll prefer PC over consoles WHENEVER possible.

I'm just saying if i was still at a point in my life where I didn't know how to operate a computer like when I was 10 on PS2 FFXI. $30 for the PS3 FFXIV would seem appropriate.

not sure how/if they will be able to sell it for any more than that with a subscription fee attached

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yeah me neither, despite the fact I'll be playing XIV(if it's good) with my 360 controller, I'll prefer PC over consoles WHENEVER possible.

I'm just saying if i was still at a point in my life where I didn't know how to operate a computer like when I was 10 on PS2 FFXI. $30 for the PS3 FFXIV would seem appropriate.

not sure how/if they will be able to sell it for any more than that with a subscription fee attached

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I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.

So basically it comes down to different reasons for different people. Some its money, some its ease of use, and some it is comfort.


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I just want to add is the computer better to play on.

Well with ffxi it sure is especially with some of the add on's. **** some of them are as good as outright cheating.



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I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.


Consoles are sold at a loss, at least when they first come out. Console manufacturers make up for the loss on the money they make on the licensing for games. A console is therefore a better value than a similarly capable PC, at least at the time of purchase.

But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.
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I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.


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Consoles are sold at a loss, at least when they first come out. Console manufacturers make up for the loss on the money they make on the licensing for games. A console is therefore a better value than a similarly capable PC, at least at the time of purchase.


Yep I agree completely.

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But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.


I am not sure I understand?
I didn't say the ps3 version would affect the pc version? I think they are being developed separately.. They said the ps3 would have slightly down graded graphics and a little less draw in distance. Graphically the pc should be better. If there was a ps4 version on the horizon that would be different. Most pc games have affects you can turn off or down for the slower pc's. Again I have not played FFXIV yet. Also the new engine is supposed to have upgraded graphics over the last one I believe I read somewhere.

If you look at FFXI though all three versions are virtually identical.
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But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.


I have no idea why you're saying here either
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If you look at FFXI though all three versions are virtually identical.


Not really SE gave up and made minor UI modifications to the PC version, and the PC version is getting a major UI overhaul to modernize it sometime in the next few months.

PS2 ran at VGA resolution, 640x480, no matter what. The Xbox version ran at 720p, almost double the resolution. The PC version can now run at 1080p even without adjusting the registry, and with registry tweaks can have insane 3D background resolutions. The PC version also allows the overlay and menu resolution to now be adjusted independently, and now uses a different font set from PS2 and Xbox.

PS2 was also notorious for not allowing users to turn off weather effects like they could on PC, which was actually a big problem in zones like Beaucedine, where the snowstorms made visibility nil and slowed the game to a crawl. That's been an issue since PS2 release.

So the versions were pretty similar, but they've never been identical, and now the PC is basically going to be a different appearing game entirely.

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The UI would be different one is made for mouse and KB and the other joystick. All 3 have to have different engines. The 360 and pc are similar since they are versions of windows.

I really don't know how to explain this but someone else might be able to do it better:
Graphics on games made to be multi platform are almost always made to the lowest system. Display resolution is something different. Display resolution can be done totally independent of the game through up converting which a lot of tvs, consoles etc do. The menus and stuff defiantly can be done in a higher resolution etc. The the actual in game graphics are the same even though they can be displayed at higher resolution for the pc or xbox. They are not going to draw a mountain 3 different time to be displayed on 3 different platforms that would get expensive. . As I said before programs usually turn things off for slower systems or computer like you said the weather effects or run at less fps. Really hard to explain what I am talking about. I have been Xbox gaming for so long now.

When I said identical I meant in game graphics.
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