what would be teh point of being able to have 8 characters?Follow

It's just like you said. They would be used as mules. Also, some people do like to level up multiple characters just because they can be a different race. People get tired of looking at the same backside every once in a while. The main reason would be the added inventory space. I know people in my LS who had 3 or 4 different mules mainly for inventory space, but they also dual boxed and used their mule to help them gain entry to low level instanced dungeons so that they could farm GC seals. It also allowed them to have 4 retainers in the wards instead of just the original 2 from your main character.

Whoever told you this can't speak for everyone. People are pretty much hoarders when it comes to stuff they "might" need in the future. Expecially for materials for crafting. They are going to decrease the player inventory from 200 down to 100 and increase the retainer inventory from 150 to 200? I forget about the retainer bit, but it's something along those lines. All in all, inventory will be more accessible since we wont have to carry around 100 slots worth of gear since we'll be able to put gear into gear sets and equipment in gear sets wont count as inventory. They have not announced being able to use the same item in multiple gear sets yet, but yoshi has mentioned that they are working toward that possibility.

You still wouldn't need multiple main characters because you can hire multiple retainers (I'm pretty sure that is sticking around for 2.0).

Options are options. Doesn't matter at the end of the day if it doesn't appeal to you. Don't take it. It might however appeal to someone else.

Worth mentioning thought that:



would require multiple accounts not multiple characters. You can only log onto one character per account at one time.

Yes. I should have mentioned this in my post. I'm so used to the people I play with being able to do this that I forget. Most of those I play with purchased the CE edition at original launch.

Do most other games allow you to level every single job on the same char? I know WoW doesn't, beyond that my experience is limited but generally that is unique to FFXI and now XIV.

I ran into a problem with this on XI. I had 2 chars, and Elf for melee and a Taru for mage stuff. Became problematic at instanced HNM's like Sandworm where I wanted some mage gear, but was the only TH4 thf online.

After so many years of Final Fantasy XI and really enjoying the ease of capability of switching nations to get to the different nation missions and their storylines, I'd be lying if I didn't say that is one thing I find unfortunate. I've never been an alt-aholic, and so I really, truly prefer sticking to one character over multiple ones. I've even done that when playing other, less job switching-friendly games.

On the other hand, it does make sense, since there would probably be story and continuity snarl if you could just bounce around nations and companies after completing one company's storyline. XI had the silly excuse of an NPC at each nation's immigration department "locking away certain memories", which in retrospect is all sorts of comically cheesy.

Which is why it was announced (Possible implemented in 1.xx at some point, I forget) that you can change your grand company at the expense of all your rank. Also, you can only wear company gear from your active company (to prevent metagaming the GC Gear.)

As far as concerns of looting outside your specific setup, that's a management problem from your Group, though usually I settle in on some of my other classes not being as well geared as my favored ones.

Luckily, "Treasure Hunter" does not exist in this game. Hopefully it stays that way.

Well, if you're an altaholic, as I am, you can't be happy with one. In Champions Online, for instance, I have about eighteen unique characters and all of them for...

roleplaying. I like to mix up the stories and try the different nations and races easily, and that's much more easily done with alts.

It's worth a few dollars a month.

Id love to play an MMO where ppl actually role play.. too bad Im sure i wont see it on FFXIV.. as i didnt see it in my 8 years on XI

No offense, but every time you start a sentence with "ummm" I want to



I'm with Hyrist, at least TH in the form it exists in XI is more of an annoyance than useful ability.

Because in my experience it doesn't do crap or at least the effect is marginal at best.

WoW Rogues, GuildWars Thiefs, and EQ Rogues (just to name a few) all say hai2u.

That's what bugs me

I agree that it's poor design. THF should be balanced to stand on its own. A slight boon to drop rates is a very inelegant way to make THF desirable, not to mention makes their presence something of a slap in the face. IF players are going to be judged and excluded from an encounter, they at least want it to be based on performance, not some non-combat trait.

Pfft. Bolts!

thf has been able to solo quite effectively for a long time now... before even toau existed

Oh good call. I was wondering why Wint was being unusually self-deprecating.

Yeah I didn't know about that one

You can't just blame the players. If you're designing a game and there's a class that people don't want to have around, that isn't THEIR fault. It means that some aspect of the design may need to be adjusted so that the people playing that class aren't left out in the cold. I'm saying that a unique buff is a bad solution to that. It makes that class feel mandatory without fixing the underlying problem, so now people STILL don't want it there, but feel like they have to take it anyway; so it ends up as just this kind of gross feeling in your composition.

Your case here where you're describing your THF exploits just means that the class is fine. So then it's some other aspect of the class' design that's turning people off to it. Then that's what you investigate.

I apologize for not making myself clearer in the beginning.

I'm trying to speak in broad terms about class design here. I hold no opinion of FFXI's THF job. I only played it myself up to about level 40. I personally remember getting annoyed with people for not cooperating with an agreed SATA setup. I remember being my party's puller (a job I enjoyed a lot since it let me set the pace of the party moreso than anyone else) in Yhoator Jungle where I was routinely balancing my crossbow on a goblin's shoulder to shoot a mandy on the other side of him just hoping he wouldn't notice me.

When I'm talking about a perception, I'm speaking broadly and usually in hypotheticals. "If a perception exists..." "If players believe that..." etc. Citing specific examples generally helps to illustrate a point, but I can see that you're taking what I'm saying to represent an opinion about the THF job that isn't my personal opinion. So once again, I apologize for not making that more clear up front.

Absolutely, this. Duo seems content to blame players for bad game design.

When you're a game designer, it is literally your job to create fun. Everything you do create is with the intention of being fun. So when you make something that is broken, and is not creating fun, you have failed at your job. Now, that's not a sin or anything... everyone fails at their job in some small way from time to time, even every day (and game design is not exactly easy, nor is it even especially important). But what you DON'T do is blame others for what is ultimately your responsibility. You're getting paid to make it fun, so you roll up your sleeves and fix it.