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#1 Sep 27 2008 at 6:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hi all,

After some digging around I found a few tricks that you can do to keep your frame rate acceptable in normal and pvp situations.


First, make sure your drivers are up to date. Go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

If needed, use their 'have disk' method for installing the latest driver. This is explained here:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11997

I had to do this because I have a nvidia 8800M GTS and the latest driver isn't 'approved' for my gateway laptop. But it still works.




Also, there are a few things that I did in addition to this.

1) downloaded and installed the 'buffthrottle' addon. This can be found here:

http://war.curse.com/downloads/war-addons/details/buffthrottle.aspx


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BuffThrottle adds a minimum delay in between consecutive refreshes of a given frame's buffs and debuffs. This helps performance immensely in situations where there are a large number of buffs/debuffs flying around.


To install an addon read here:

http://www.regularsexpressions.com/gaming/warhammer-online-gaming/warhammer-online-how-to-install-addons/




2) In video settings, I turned grass off. From what I read, this has been known to give a 20 fps increase. 20fps is a big trade off for a small feature.




3) I use a macro that turns off my combat log. I use another macro to turn it back on (by using true instead of false). Here is the macro:

/script TextLogSetEnabled("Combat", false)

For NVIDIA USERS:

Be sure you have the latest drivers, again check out laptopvideotogo.com for the latest ones (on the right side of screen).



Have the latest drivers? Great, now go to your control panel and pick manage 3d settings.

In the program settings tab, choose ADD. Now locate your warhammer main directory, and choose war.exe.

This creates a profile for warhammer. For many users, this alone has increased performance.




Anyway, these are all the various things that I have done and I can now run my game on highest quality settings.

Enjoy!



Edited, Sep 27th 2008 10:58pm by Webjunky

Edited, Sep 28th 2008 1:47am by Webjunky
#3 Sep 27 2008 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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This should be helpful, I'll give some of these a try later on when I have more time.

Just checking, in your first link that you posted are you sure its suppose to be laptopvideotogo.com/ and not laptopvideo2go.com/ instead?

I clicked on the one with "to" on it and it took me to a web page that seems like it is just full of random links for random sites.

Edited, Sep 27th 2008 10:07pm by Ryugan
#4 Sep 27 2008 at 9:54 PM Rating: Good
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Ryugan wrote:
This should be helpful, I'll give some of these a try later on when I have more time.

Just checking, in your first link that you posted are you sure its suppose to be laptopvideotogo.com/ and not laptopvideo2go.com/ instead?

I clicked on the one with "to" on it and it took me to a web page that seems like it is just full of random links for random sites.

Edited, Sep 27th 2008 10:07pm by Ryugan



Thanks for the heads up! Fixed.
#5 Sep 27 2008 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm still having a few issues, but this helped a lot, thank ye.
#6 Sep 28 2008 at 6:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Very nice additions to performance tweaking! Be sure to review my performance guide, as it goes into detail on other performance tweaks you can make, as well as suggesting upgrades to components in case you're ready to add a little bit more horsepower in your system:

http://www.allakhazam.com/wiki/System_Performance_Guide

Warhammer Online isn't a very demanding game, however, it is definitely more demanding than say WoW due to its graphics. You shouldn't need to go all-out in upgrading a system if you do need to look at the hardware end of things. Every Sunday I release a weekly update to this guide, which is going to go up in ... 5... 4... :).
#7 Sep 28 2008 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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What programs are you guys using to determine your FPS?
Also, are there any ports to open for War that might help with lag?

I meet all the minimum requirements for Warhammer but I still get some lag, wondering if this is the same for you guys?

My spec is:
AMD 3200+ Venice - 2.01ghz (I believe this is the equivalent to P4, but not sure)
2 gig of DDR ram
Nvidia 6800 GS
#8 Sep 28 2008 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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FRAPS works fine if the game doesn't have any built-in tools.

It is likely your 6800GS, which is probably limited to 256MB of RAM (there are some 512MB versions). The game goes over this at times. You could get a MUCH faster video card for even under $100 these days:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127383&nm_mc=AFC-Techreport&cm_mmc=AFC-Techreport-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Although I personally swear by this card if you can spend the extra $40:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261027

The only catch with these video cards is that they are PCI-express. Does your motherboard have a PCI-express slot? Most 6800gs variants are AGP. If it only supports AGP, then your best alternative would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131090

Edited, Sep 28th 2008 2:39pm by Berek
#10 Sep 30 2008 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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Interesting. Tagged so I don't lose this.
#11 Sep 30 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Berek Halfhand wrote:
Although I personally swear by this card if you can spend the extra $40:

So you a big fan of Radeons? My stupid intel board only supports CrossFire and not SLI so I think about giving Radeon a try again but I seem to have had much better luck with Nvidia.
#12 Sep 30 2008 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going to give all these a try when I get home. The game runs quite well for me most of the time, but I find my only problem stems from the tops of the trees, which has been a problem in Ostland/Troll Country. When I tilt my camera to look at 'em my FPS drops through the floor.
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#13 Sep 30 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I tried all of the tricks in the OP and I can tell a good amount of difference in fps.
I didn't try each one individually and see which one's worked the best but overall good tricks to use.

I know this is off topic, but I was wondering how well this video card would be able to run Warhammer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16814130364

I know the 384mb ram isn't that big of a boost to 256mb ram, so just wanted your opinions on it. It is a fairly low value video card.
#14 Sep 30 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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WarMaverick wrote:
I learned another trick today to reduce lagginess.

The combat log can generate a surprising amount of lag, and in situations where many player's actions are being recorded by your log, this can really bog you down.

What I did was bind a macro with the command:

/script TextLogSetEnabled("Combat", false)

This simply disables the combat log. Add another macro with:

/script TextLogSetEnabled("Combat", true)

to turn it back on if desired.

Personally, I doubt I'll turn mine on. I see all the damage feedback I want through the UI and floating text.

Edited, Sep 30th 2008 6:28am by WarMaverick




Aye, that's number 3 of my post. A great tip, still!
#16 Oct 01 2008 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
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Ryugan wrote:
I tried all of the tricks in the OP and I can tell a good amount of difference in fps.
I didn't try each one individually and see which one's worked the best but overall good tricks to use.

I know this is off topic, but I was wondering how well this video card would be able to run Warhammer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16814130364

I know the 384mb ram isn't that big of a boost to 256mb ram, so just wanted your opinions on it. It is a fairly low value video card.


Says it's a deactivated product now.

I have an 8800GTS that (I think) had 320MB and seems to do well. I've heard that the 8800 is better than a single 9600 but if you have two 9600s in SLI they are better. I don't really know either way. Something I've heard. You may want to check up and make sure the 9600 is the way to go.
#17 Oct 02 2008 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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MrTalos wrote:
[quote=Ryugan]I've heard that the 8800 is better than a single 9600 but if you have two 9600s in SLI they are better. I don't really know either way. Something I've heard. You may want to check up and make sure the 9600 is the way to go.


It depends a lot on what type of 8800 you are comparing it to. The fastest 8800's will be faster than a 9600 but not always by a lot. An 8800 GT will usually be comparable in price to a 9600 (the Asus 9600EN GT is worth looking at if you must have something with a '9' in it), and can actually outperform them on some applications. The architecture is very similar though there are some differences.
#18 Oct 02 2008 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not a fan of Radeons, no, but they are the best deals right now in a lot of cases, which is why I recommended them. There are certain noteworthy Nvidia cards out there right now and I can recommend a few if you like. Just that the best "bang for your buck" right now is the Radeon 4850.
#19 Oct 03 2008 at 7:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Berek Halfhand wrote:
I'm not a fan of Radeons, no, but they are the best deals right now in a lot of cases, which is why I recommended them. There are certain noteworthy Nvidia cards out there right now and I can recommend a few if you like. Just that the best "bang for your buck" right now is the Radeon 4850.


I took your advice and then went way overboard with it and got the 4870X2. It's supposed to be the fastest video card on the market today.

I would like to say that WAR runs insanely fast now with it but my HD crapped out when I switched the power supply so I haven't reinstalled WAR yet on the new one.

Spider Solitaire looks really good though.. for whatever that's worth.. which is like absolutely nothing.
#20 Oct 03 2008 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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First off, thanks for the tips!

I have one question though, I can't find a setting to turn grass off
in the video menu. Arg, please help!
#21 Oct 03 2008 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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bewgar wrote:
First off, thanks for the tips!

I have one question though, I can't find a setting to turn grass off
in the video menu. Arg, please help!



Did you look into <Customize Settings>? Or something like that, on the video screen.
#22 Oct 03 2008 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
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Would you also suggest someone start off with their basic settings tuned to "maximum fps" or whatever setting is on the main graphics page? That's what I did to try to reduce lag originally, and it helped somewhat but, ultimately, not enough.

I'm going to try these tips in addition to seeing if the changes Mythic made will make the game playable for me. Here's hoping!
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#23 Oct 04 2008 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I've also read on various forums that some nvidia users actually hurt themselves by picking the lowest settings. This is for people with high end cards. For some reason, some users have reported that the chopiness and stutters decreased after performing various tweaks mentioned in my OP and turning the settings UP.
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Awesome tips. I've really noticed some performance lag recently and will try these to help.
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#25 Oct 11 2008 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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FOR NVIDIA USERS:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=520538&topic=45697615

I'll be trying out THIS method soon.
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