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That's a WHOLE LOAD OF BS.

I think he is referring to the CE getting 4 days head start...

Same here. Either way, in a few weeks we are all going to ding 40 and be $20 richer

Keys entered into my account. I'll be starting on Sunday.
I did buy it pretty much only for the art book. The extra day or two head start is nice, but I'll be working next week, so I won't be able to play it as much as I'd like.

Price segmentation is always bad within games. Ultimately this won't matter, but is is a bad ethic to have creating precedents. You do not as a developer offer the ability to pay more cash for in game functional benefits.

Sorry guys, I'm not the gamer flamer type but it's 2 days. I think you'll be ok. Just builds the anticipation even more. As for paying more money just for 2 days or whatever reason is personal preference.

The first 2 days are going to be terrible, full of near empty servers and no RvR anyway. Bleh.

Just because they are giving you the option to start earlier than anyone else doesn't mean you have to. Hold out until everyone else starts so you don't end up "re-rolling". It makes sense.

Your tears are delicious.

-T.

Not sure why it surprises you jord. Besides be happy originally they werent going to give SE a headstart. So you are getting more then you would of

Uhm, that's not entirely true. At first it was only for CE's.

[Edit: Well, beta at least. head start was for everyone. I think that's where the confusion began.]

Edited, Sep 10th 2008 12:21pm by tovin

LOL! Amen Quinz. Letting CE's in one day early from SE's is not a big deal. Letting SE's in supports those who support the game, developers, studio and whatever. I'm failing to see the problem, though I'm gathering that many have some kind of issue with Jord. lol

And as for Allegory's statement about price segmentation. SE's are not price segmented, and if 24 hours isn't worth $20 to you, I'm sorry. It is to me, and to 60k of us out there. I've been following this game since Imperator was post-poned (not cancelled people...pay attention), and if $20 is what it takes to play it ASAP, it's worth it.

If you're going to argue segmentation, how about starting with character transfers, name changes, vent servers (hey, they're huge help in RvR), time to play vs gold selling, 18 year olds with no job vs someone who works 80 hours, etc., etc.,!

Don't complain about a service you have gotten use out of unless the service rendered wasn't what was paid for. If you don't agree with a service, then don't use it. Personally I think name changes are wonderful things when used for decent reasons, and server changes as well. It's not like they're completely free either. Any game I've seen charges for them, so ninja looters can only do so so long as they have the money to continue to pay for name changes and server hops. A bit obsessive to believe that they would consistently do such considering the cost that would be involved (note that I'm not saying that these services aren't used for this, just that it would be stupid to believe that they are consistently used for this by the same people).

As for another posting topic in this thread, personally I'm sick of people calling CE-pre-order customers whiners in the way that makes them look like they're calling all of them whiners. 80,000 North American boxes (and 50,000? EU boxes) and maybe a few hundred of those people bitched on prominent forums about it. Maybe. I'm not sure, because all I did was go and laugh at the ones who did. At least if you're going to complain about the CE customers, complain about just 'a section' of them, instead of inferring that all of us were like that.

I mean, some of us actually read everything written and understood that the head-start was for all pre-orders. And some of us bought the CE for the cool little extras because we like art, and/or graphic novels, and/or little figurines, and/or minor in-game extras and also really, really wanted the game. Don't belittle us for wanting the toys as well as the game, because it just makes you look sour, and I don't believe you want that.

Edited, Sep 10th 2008 4:56pm by Kirana

What do you even need gold for in Warhammer?

'Respecing' your Mastery or Renown points is free.

Training cost are extremely low.

Armor dying is extremely cheap.

From what I gather, the only thing players can craft are potion and talisman... both of which are consumable (Talisman have a duration that's between hours and days, but they do run out).

I understand there's an auction house, but aside from selling random world drop, what else will go on there? What's the point of selling an epic sword for 300gold if you then have nothing to do with that 300g anyway?

Gold is very close to being worthless - so why would anybody buy it?

The same reason people would buy Tunar (EQOA currency). Because they can and believe that they can get more out of the game by doing so.

Tunar, by the way, is pretty worthless too. Or at least was when I played EQOA years ago.

In the name of the raven god, who is Toven?! *plots rate downs for Allegory!*

Sorry Tovin. Fixed.

Sorry Kirana. I had assumed you meant that statement to apply to preorders as well. Yes, I find nothing wrong with name changes and server swaps.

Is tunar as worthless as the yen?

This is why they're giving grace periods after launch.

CE codes were supposed to be included with CE pre-orders, but gamestop as usual, gave CE codes to SE people....

SO! That's why CE in game stuff like the exclusive head is going to have to be re-specced to make sure ONLY people who truly got CE *boxes* are using it.

So if you got a CE pre-order code by accident, you'll be able to use the CE head start. But you won't get the post launch goodies (title and heads).

You won't know until you try to login on Sunday I guess! Though your account center should say.

The extra $20 is worth spending if I get the names I want before some other guy snags my names...

The rest of the CE stuff is just a bonus.

OK, the next question is...

What time will the servers be "turned on" Sunday? 10am PST?

Anyone know?

Its just as I feared. servers are live now, for the CE headstart. But I cannot join, because I was simply given the wrong code. Yes, I did pre-order CE, but at a local store, not online. oh well, see everyone on Tuesday then.